ehh, well I decided to resub to check out raiding.
Sub 2 hours, not the fastest people do it, but smooth, no wipes, I didn't die once all raid. No gear (all hunter/shaman loot) but a good time. Will do again.
I remember this being hard as all fuck taking 6 hours and still wiping to rag, not just mollywhopping the whole thing with almost no effort. Insane what...14 years can do to people just not sucking. Kinda awesome 1-2/3 of the group is my original peeps from raiding in high school. Not the most mechanically interesting gameplay, but crack open a few beers, enjoy the discord chat, and hope for a few epix.
*edit*
right before bed, managed to scrounge up 900g