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The Chatterbox => Random Chat => Topic started by: Ulti on August 26, 2007, 11:10:58 PM
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http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-throttles-bittorrent-traffic-seeding-impossible/
Seriously, what kind of crap is this, I was all like "hooray comcast is badass, they upped my upload!", but now that this happening, I am greatly annoyed.
The article suggests a couple workarounds, but I haven't looked into them. I'm honestly thinking that I'm going to use Tor now, just as a permanent thing.
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good thing I have verizon 8)
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Oh, fuck you all. You live in the land where (speed and/or price) capped internet plans are a ridiculous rarity and ISP-side censorship isn't on the fast track to manditory-land. :P
Still, that does suck. Hear about the guy court-ordered to use windows on his PC? :D
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Tell me I'm not the only one who this affects. :'(
Also court-ordered windows PC usage sounds pretty sketchy to me.
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It affects me too. I get a few minutes of uncapped upload but then it quickly goes back down to my normal 45k/sec up.
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fucking bullshit. Comcast is such a fucknig disappointment. I'm considering calling comcast like I want to order their shit
then ask them about it, and then talk to their manager, and then tell them i'm not interested anymore. hahaha
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Luckily, I'm still unaffected, my ISP is a virtual ISP who buys their bandwidth and infrastructure connection from Bell. Of course, my upload is stuck crapped at 56 kb/s,m as opposed to the nearly 300 kb/s I know it's technically possible...
Also, Why does Canada and the US have to have the shit end of the stick as far as maximum connection speed? Throughout most of Europe and Asia, 20 Mbit lines are basically standard, and they're even testing 100 mbit lines in some places, and yet I'm stuck with a 3mbit connection, which may be upgraded to a 5mbit whenever they get around up upgrading my area.
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20 mbit? =(
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I usually get 15 kb/sec up and I'm not complaining.
But honestly, this is fucking retarded. What is it with all these idiots trying to prevent piracy? It's not like they'll ever stop anyone from ripping CDs and DVDs, cracking games and software, ect. I especially like how they say that "just because you have a 1.5 - 3.0 MBPS connection that doesn't mean you're entitled to use all of it at any given time". If they seriously can't provide that much bandwith for all their customers 24/7 then they need to upgrade their network.
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In my part of Maryland, Comcast and Verizon are the two major ISPs.
Guess which one I'm calling today.
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If they seriously can't provide that much bandwith for all their customers 24/7 then they need to upgrade their network.
I completely agree. If they say I'm getting a 3.0 Mbit connection, I damn well expect to have full and complete access to the internet with 3.0 Mbits worth of connectivity at any given time. I do rarely ever hit that sort of speed downloading, due to the Weakest Link Syndrome (connection only as fast as the slowest computer it travels through), but I'm happy that when I do get it, they don't cap me off at some stupid rate after so long.
Of course, I also have Encryption enabled in my uTorrent all the time :P
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Yeah, I'm boned by Comcast. As soon as Verizon starts running down here we're gonna switch. As well, they're working on a fantastic-looking fiber service.
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I wonder how many people Comcast is gonna lose? Maybe they'll rethink this after they lose a whole ton of customers.
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I want to convince my dad to switch to that fiber-optics network, but he's afraid of change or something.
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What kills me is that they automatically assume that BitTorrent is only going to be used by pirates. Really, it has enough legit uses (legal music distribution, HUGE releases from FOSS vendors, etc) that it simply shouldn't be stopped like this. Not to mention that if they're going to cap one thing, what's to stop them from capping everything?
I'm having a bit of a problem, though: I called Verizon today and they aren't sure if our apartment is close enough to their office. Hopefully the only reason they don't have this place on their system is because it's a fairly new complex, otherwise Comcast's idiocy is going to get circumvented somehow -- there's always a way around stupid restrictions.
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Well, they do say that "Setting up a secure connection through VPN or over SSH seems to be the only solution." Which means that while it's a pain, it can still be set up and done.
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Yeah, I looked into that, but it seems overly complicated. Apparently you're still able to connect properly with people within the comcast network, so it's not quite as bad as I expected.
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Except that seeding is still pretty much impossible on small scale torrents.
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in life, you're pretty much fucked no matter what you do. amirite?
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You'd better be fucked at least once.. leaving no family line sucks.
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Meh, I don't think I'd want kids, though. It's not like there's enough human beings ruining the earth anyway.
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Another of those "I'm not having kids" people? I never understand why you people do that. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, the only thing that humans are even supposed to is reproduce.
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Another of those "I'm not having kids" people? I never understand why you people do that. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, the only thing that humans are even supposed to is reproduce.
I agree. Not having kids is pretty much a waste, if you ask me. I mean, what else is there to do in life, honestly. Unless you plan to make some super important lasting contribution to the universe, and the odds of that are pretty much nil, how else are people going to remember you existed 50 years from now?
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But that's not the point. I don't really give a shit about "leaving a legacy" or "carrying on my name". If I'm dead, I already don't give a fuck from the get go. I've already lost. There's already overpopulation in major cities in the world, and additionally, I think the world in 50 years is not a world that much worth living in. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it'd be amazing if the United States is around; that is, if the world is still alive. The years following 2100 will more than likely suck. I love my future kids enough to not have to them go through it. lol...
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But that's not the point. I don't really give a shit about "leaving a legacy" or "carrying on my name". If I'm dead, I already don't give a fuck from the get go. I've already lost. There's already overpopulation in major cities in the world, and additionally, I think the world in 50 years is not a world that much worth living in. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it'd be amazing if the United States is around; that is, if the world is still alive. The years following 2100 will more than likely suck. I love my future kids enough to not have to them through it. lol...
lol that's pretty much my opinion on having children... that, and that they're messy, gross, obnoxious high-maintainance poopy-pants'd little shits.
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that, and that they're messy, gross, obnoxious high-maintainance poopy-pants'd little shits.
what he said
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See, most people do look at all those issues, and still have children. I mean hell, is it very pleasant the entire time of the pregnancy? Is giving birth fun? Fuck no, why the hell do you think they give lots of people Epidurals? I see it as the single only thing that I should ever achieve in my life. The single only true expectation for any human being. I mean, in the bigger picture, life is worth nothing if you don't contribute to the future of your race. Is any one single squirrel worth anything? No, but if it has a kid, then the race can continue, and that's what's important really.
Sure, we can debate this till the end of time whether humans have any reason aside from reproduction, but if you look at how every animal is programmed, even humans, the only things that we really do are live, and have children, the rest of it is meaningless crap. Sure, we shape the earth, but will that matter 10 000 000 years from now? Not unless the human race is still alive in one form or another.
Sure, I'll be dead in 10 000 000 years, but maybe by then the human race will have progressed from this dark time in the earth's history, where we abuse the planet and refuse to acknowledge the damage we're doing. But by that time, we'll have passed this time, and gone beyond where we are now. I'd say whether I'm dead or not, I'd rather that than humanity not existing past 2100 and the world erasing nearly all signs that we ever lived here.
Oh, and spec, I suggest you split this into a different topic.
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Indeed, because this one does not fill me with said furious angry rage, it fills me with confusion and colon-ess.
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I see it as the single only thing that I should ever achieve in my life. The single only true expectation for any human being. I mean, in the bigger picture, life is worth nothing if you don't contribute to the future of your race.
Your only justification for living your own life is to have children? Surely, do you honestly feel that the only benefactor that your life could possibly contribute is reproduction?
Is any one single squirrel worth anything? No, but if it has a kid, then the race can continue, and that's what's important really.
See, but while we are organisms like squirrels are, we are no where near being threatened for extinction (unless we kill ourselves). Humans don't need to reproduce anymore to "keep the specie alive", there's already so many of us. Even at the loss of 1 of us, one million of us, 30 million, 600 million, or even a billion.
Sure, we can debate this till the end of time whether humans have any reason aside from reproduction, but if you look at how every animal is programmed, even humans, the only things that we really do are live, and have children, the rest of it is meaningless crap. Sure, we shape the earth, but will that matter 10 000 000 years from now? Not unless the human race is still alive in one form or another.
Good point. I really see where you're coming from on this. But I don't see any need to reproduce just because other organisms do. I don't need to have kids just because mother nature will wag its finger at me if I don't. Reproduction for future reproduction is silly. "I need to reproduce so they can reproduce, and then they can reproduce, and so they can reproduce." It's just circular, and proves that life from the beginning is worthless. Natural selection is the only reason we reproduce. Somewhere, way back in the origins of life, a small protein molecule was able to replicate itself, which led to small cells that were able to replicate themselves. It's not of the cells own desire they choose to reproduce, but the fact that cells that don't reproduce die. I bet there were many proteins/cells (perhaps it's not right to lump the two together, but just go with it for now) in this era that were incapable of duplication/reproduction, but their design (no, not 'intelligent design', fools) just wouldn't allow for it. Naturally, we've inherited these traits from our ancestry and shows today. There is no purpose in life, not even for reproduction. It was just natural selection that caused us to be capable of reproducing, and so we have. (Rephrased yet another time, since I'm sure some still won't understand: Since organisms incapable of making copies of themselves die and don't leave anything behind, we're stuck with things that can make copies of themselves.)
Sure, I'll be dead in 10 000 000 years, but maybe by then the human race will have progressed from this dark time in the earth's history, where we abuse the planet and refuse to acknowledge the damage we're doing. But by that time, we'll have passed this time, and gone beyond where we are now. I'd say whether I'm dead or not, I'd rather that than humanity not existing past 2100 and the world erasing nearly all signs that we ever lived here.
:]. (yes, I period'd a smilie) Although, what's the benefit in leaving a trace we were here? Who would come to see it or even care enough?
Oh, and spec, I suggest you split this into a different topic.
agreed
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but we're alive because we get to go heaven when we die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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but we're alive because we get to go heaven when we die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no religious flamebait plox
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I don't mind a religious aspect to the conversation, as long as we keep things going the way they are right now. Zak has quite a few good points.
I see your point that a number of us can die and the race can still continue, but really, I simlpy believe that I should do my part and reproduce, it's almost a moral issue with me. The same conscience that tells me what's right and wrong also says that to not continue the race is wrong, and I agree. I see your points, and at this point, I don't have much to say to rebut them. I believe in choice about everything, so you can chose not to. I may tell you I believe it's wrong, but that's because as a human, I get the urge to make people see things the way I do, and hopefully have them agree with me. It's just what we do. I'm not sure how much more I can really say on this, unless someone introduces more ideas into the discussion.
And you know what Zak, maybe I will cease to exist and therefore not care a whit about the future, my children, or anything else, but at this point, I don't care what I'll be thinking in the future, I care about what I feel now.
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That's cool. I mean, we all have choice over what we want to do, and that's the greatest beauty of all.
but we're alive because we get to go heaven when we die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I laughed my ass off when I read this. For more than one reason.... >.>
Oh, and ultimate, you can have your thread about comcast shafting its customers back now.
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Haha, shafting. IT ALL RELATES!!11one
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I agree. Not having kids is pretty much a waste, if you ask me. I mean, what else is there to do in life, honestly. Unless you plan to make some super important lasting contribution to the universe, and the odds of that are pretty much nil, how else are people going to remember you existed 50 years from now?
But what if you're gay?
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Obvious exception. I was even going to mention that, but decided it would be a moot point.
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how else are people going to remember you existed 50 years from now?
Put on a white wig and write the constitution, or shave off all of your mustache, except just under your nose, and try to take over the world. Or, organize a large scale attack on a country too overall self-centered to see it coming. oh shit did you see what I did there
also, building phallic, incredibly tall steel towers and naming them all after yourself helps too
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also, building phallic, incredibly tall steel towers and naming them all after yourself helps too
This sounds like the best of the ideas.
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(http://www.vhemt.org/rightpeople.jpg)
(http://www.vhemt.org/whybreed.jpg)
http://www.vhemt.org/ (http://www.vhemt.org/)
So anyway- as I see it, the human race isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Breeding less will probably wipe us out less than breeding more (you know how we cull animals? Culling humans tends to be illegal as far as I'm aware).
If you want to breed just so you'll be remembered, consider this- who the fuck knows jiggery squat about their ancestors? If you're lucky, you'll be whittled down to nothing more than a hunk of rock, dust, and a name. THAT'S your legacy. Your genes aren't special, there are quite a couple of billion other people who carry similar pairs. You'd be better off being remembered by writing a shitty book, inventing some ridiculously FAIL net-nanny-esque software or finally getting across to people that while the atkins diet does work, it can also kill you.
There are homosexuals and sterile folker and people who just plain hate kids/sex or love getting abortions. These people aren't LESS human by their choices or circumstances, on the contrary- what makes humans considerably different from the other mammals that waddle around and shit on the floor is that we usually have an option as to whether or not we follow our inherent cravings. This doesn't happen most of the time (you re-elected Bush for chrissakes), but it's there.
And if we are going to jump back to a biological argument, think about some natural selection: look at the increasing trend of people you see on the street. Chavs, bogans, wiggers, emos, emofags, bogan-emos, hicks, rednecks, jews and other awful characters. You want THEIR genetic material in the human race? "Everybody quick! Breed! China's outnumbering us and they're spooky and got small peenies!" is a surefire way to get us to devolve into something akin to the common canetoad.
I propose a better solution to keep the human race from annihilating itself is to reproduce less and think more. A generation of idiots under Jamster's rule does not bode well for the earth of tomorrow, or indeed, ten thousand years in the future.
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You really think that these trends will have much effect on ten thousand years in the future? Hell no, but I'd rather be remembered as a name on a piece of paper tracing someone's family back rather than some random tombstone that 2 or 3 people ever cared to see. In ten thousand years the human race may well evolve physically, and scientifically. Compare our science to that of the romans only two thousand years ago. In ten thousand years, the human race has the potential to do things that we could never dream of, and I mean that in the exact way it's said. We could never ever think of what they might invent, because it will be so far beyond what we know that we'll look like cave men to them. They may well find a way to unite the world, stop war, and colonize space. They may learn some of the secrets of the universe that we've been wondering about for thousands of years. Look at china. They're one of the most crowded countries on earth, and yet they still manage to survive, more or less, despite the extreme population density. If the US were to become as dense as china, they would have over a billion people living there, but china is ranked 71 in the list of countries by population density, so there are quite a few countries denser than china, and you don't hear about the overcrowding in those countries. Sure, industrialized countries can not support as many people as less industrialized countries, but in ten thousand years, the human race will likely have eliminated industrialization, and will likely have unified the world technologically at least.
The whole point is that ten thousand years is so far in the future the problems of today are likely not going to have much effect on it, and they'll likely be seen as simple trends on a chart, if they are even known of. If the world overcrowds, we'll die out until things become balanced again, and that'll be that.
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Oh god, serious debate. Also, tox, wtf's a bogan.
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogan
durr
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Ah, so something completely unapplicable to life in the United States, got it. I knew what chavs were, and I was proud of myself for that, because I was fairly certain that was a mostly British ailment.
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Gah, the top 2 require you to pretty much be aussie or kiwi to understand them, at least the third is easy to read, explains it to outsiders (the point of WRITING a description there!) and does it in WAY less words.
Also, the top chav definition, made me realize that most of the idiots I've been seeing at school before emo came around were pretty much canadian chavs :/ Disrespectful morons who think they're the shit, who pretty much fall under everything else except the ball caps and car fixation (well, maybe they did wear the caps, but not in school, thanks to the uniform)
Just before emo came into popularity, the grade 9s were pretty much the canadian chav.. :(
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Oh god, serious debate. Also, tox, wtf's a bogan.
That's Tox? Also I'm only having kids if I find the "right person" and she actually wants to, other then that I see no reason to have kids.
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Yeah, I'm not really sure if I prefer that to emo or not, though.
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Bogan is Australia's flavour of white trash, yeah.
I wasn't saying the fads would live on for ten thousand years, just that children and subsequently teenagers are getting dumber, fatter, louder, whinier and sluttier. These twats are going to be breeding in the future. THAT trend will carry.
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But will this progression really affect the human race ten thousand years from now? probably not. Maybe we'll manage to cause some global catastrophe and kill off ninety percent of humanity, but we'll learn from it.
Well, we've pretty much exhausted our argument here, I think.
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The problem: Since the industrial revolution, there has been no natural selection of the human race.
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While that may be true, the more diverse gene pool may be better for us overall :P
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Yeah, I do kind of agree. Evolution will do its job by itself, we don't need to help it along. Heard of eugenics? That's the kind of creepy stuff that goes on when people take it upon themselves to cleanse the gene pool. If you ask me, humanity is going to end up like dogs eventually, breeds that are genetically dead ends will just die out.
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humanity is going to end up like dogs eventually, breeds that are genetically dead ends will just die out.
Are you familiar with a term called fundamentalism? People will feel too sorry, and help because they feel it's "the right thing to do". See: Terri Schaivo, mentally handicapped institutions. Kinda reminds me of euthanasia. But anyways...
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That's not exactly the same. Sure we let people like that live (or die, whatever), but it's not like they're actively breeding.
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It's worse than just 'no more natural selection'. There's distinctly UNnatural selection going on.
These days we have fetishes and medicine and pity. People feel sorry for people with horrid genetics and sometimes thar be sexxors. People who by all logic SHOULD be dead, are not, because medicine helps them. Those sickly genes carry on. And of course, there are the people turned on by folker without... skin and whatnot.
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So did I understand this right? You're saying keeping retards alive results in them having sex, making more retards? :s
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Well, potentially making more retards.. but yeah that's pretty much his point.
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Well it's a bit more subtle than that.
Basically I was just saying that breeding for the sake of breeding "because it's what we're supposed to do" instead of putting a decent amount of thought into it or just focusing effort into making the world half a pinch nicer isn't probably the best idea.
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I'm just stating that while it's a good idea to preserve the earth and do all we can now, we shouldn't have to worry about whether making babies will overcrowd the earth, or what will happen to humanity more than a hundred years after we're dead.
I mean, even single celled organisms, viruses, and cancer cells reproduce.. It's a law for survival of a species. Our problem is that our technology and intelligence has allowed up to laugh in nature's face and only the deadliest of natures forces can kill us, so now we do have to watch out for how we treat the world, and how we deal with out population, but unless we reach a point where the population density is somewhere around that of china, we don't really have to worry, and by the time the US and Canada reach that level, we'll likely have developed some technology to help deal with it. I mean, really, in 2 or 3 hundred years, what sort of technology will we develop that will help the planet, by then we may have found a way to clean the atmosphere, control the weather, colonize other planets, travel to other star systems, repair the ozone, etc. And that's only a couple hundred years. I think that at the rate our technology is increasing, before the world really becomes overcrowded, we'll have found some way to deal with it. And if you look at the trends, aside from the actual fashion, emo and other pop cultures will probably have very little effect on the future. Not to mention that despite the fact that young people are seeming to be stupider and stupider, the simple fact that our technology is increasing at such a rate shows that to some extent we are getting smarter and smarter. We're solving problems that even 25 or 30 years ago we would never have even thought of.
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Well it's a bit more subtle than that.
Basically I was just saying that breeding for the sake of breeding "because it's what we're supposed to do" instead of putting a decent amount of thought into it or just focusing effort into making the world half a pinch nicer isn't probably the best idea.
Yeah, I agree with this statement. I personally am totally for birth control, abortion, the works, but I do think that people should have kids. It's not like they're mutually exclusive. Another thing I'm really not for is just nailing any and every random chick you come across, with not a thought beforehand.
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Yeah, I'm pro chose, but fucking everything that walks is not a good idea. Nor is aborting every child you have because you're too stupid to use protection.
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Holy shit, this thread evolved. XD
gj, everyone
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Yeah, it wasn't even a real hijack, it just sorta became.
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Dude I hope my charmander evolves soon. I think it's level 19 that it evolves into charmeleon.
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Yeah, it wasn't even a real hijack, it just sorta became.
That's what made it awesome -- it was totally intentional yet it was still powerful enough to occur within a few posts. I respect that.
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Spectere have babies with me. :>
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Mmm, childrens...they taste yummy.
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I actually have a picture of someone eating a fetus. :\
in a soup.
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...wow. I don't even know how to respond to that.
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Was it a human foetus? They often look alike. You know, evolutionary evidence and the like. :P
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Was it a human foetus?
They make fake fetuses? Cool, now instead of making children I'll just buy like 20 foetuses and if I mess up it's no big deal cuz I got replacements.
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You jinxed the thread, spec. : (
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I sorry... :(
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They make fake fetuses? Cool, now instead of making children I'll just buy like 20 foetuses and if I mess up it's no big deal cuz I got replacements.
What? Foetus is the english spelling of 'fetus'. o_o
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Silly americans, english isn't your language.
I prefer Foetus.. and Encyclopaedia and Paedophilia and all those other special Us and such.
I may type color instead of colour, but that's only because most programming languages don't like the extra U.
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What? Foetus is the english spelling of 'fetus'. o_o
Typo.
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Most programming languages support macros, too. Anyway, according to wikipedia, 'fetus' is closer to the original latin root, but 'foetus' has been in use for a couple of hundred years. I'd say that qualifies it as english.
Also I was just wondering what the 'fake foetus' thing was all about. What? Bluh? Shibble? D:
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also: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Foetus_soup (warning: NSFW)
with foetus, surprisingly enough.
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Foetus soup (or Fetus, in American English)
I thought foetus meant fake fetus or something. Also their should be a NSFW label on that ink zak = (.
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Haha, yeah, I've seen that before. It's older than the internet.
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http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Foetus_soup (warning: NSFW)
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Can you really get a fetus soup somewhere in the world, though? And if so, where?
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Also their should be a NSFW label on that ink zak = (.
fix't
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I called comcast.
http://www.zakamiro.net/media/audio/comcast.mp3
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^ wtf, what bullshit. How can they prove your up to an illegal activity? Also at the end you should have said your phone was a rotary.
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Ahahaha, I was seriously laughing out loud when I listened to that Comcast call. You can tell that first guy was pretending to not know what the bittorrent protocol was. The second guy at least seemed kinder toward approaching it, but yeah, it was total bullshit.
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Get rid of that 60 hz buzz. Also, lower the bass a little at the start...
Also, lmao, Aurthur Corona? haha.
You should post this somewhere big. But not too big unless you want your bandwidth to get pwned. I have an idea, slashdot it, and use a torrent to transfer it to anyone who wants to hear it :P
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no, Arthur Corona. And yeah, I should. But if I do share it, I'll recall them and even tell the guy to get online and search google for comcast and bittorrent. That would ensure epic lulz.
but yeah....
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Haha
Headline: Comcast denies bittorrent blocks. I guess they don't even tell their employees when they try to fuck everyone over.
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Yeah, they've been denying that they're doing it for a while. I donno what the truth actually is, but whatever. I haven't actually tried torrenting anything for a while.
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http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/harristown_state_high_school (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/harristown_state_high_school)
Hey, my old high school's got an article. :D
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Exciting.
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^ hah, seems like a happanin place.
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Hahaha, way to go, Arthur. :P
Out of sheer curiosity, what do you use to record your calls?
Yeah, they've been denying that they're doing it for a while. I donno what the truth actually is, but whatever. I haven't actually tried torrenting anything for a while.
I checked: the second you try to seed Comcast blasts their clients with RSTs and kills the incoming connections. If I were at home I could show firewall logs but, alas, I'm in Ohio, with my old unhindered SBC DSL.
And yeah, Comcast has been openly denying that they interfere with BitTorrent traffic. I'm not surprised that their tech support doesn't know about it. I'd be a bit more troubled if there wasn't an easy way to get around it (with my current set of firewall rules in place I can freely seed). Even so, they shouldn't be doing it. There are plenty of legitimate uses for BitTorrent and all uncooperative ISPs do is cause Internet servers to have to work harder.
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So I take it you just block their RST sends?
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umm, audacity, a logitech mic, and my phone's speakerphone. XD
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So I take it you just block their RST sends?
Yep, you've got it. I imagine that they can't legally do anything to interfere with anyone else's Internet access (i.e. sending RSTs to non-Comcast customers) so I don't see a whole lot else they can do to stop it that hasn't been tried before.
umm, audacity, a logitech mic, and my phone's speakerphone. XD
Heh, given the quality I figured you did a direct line in or something. :P Well played.
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Though the 60 hz hum bugged me...
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Though the 60 hz hum bugged me...
audiophiles these days.
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:D
It's not like it's hard to get rid of anyway. Plus, it's probably more apparent on here than some because my sub is pretty decent.
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Well, one would expect that it's not perfect by any means :<
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Bump, for >:( and lulz.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/56178;_ylt=AjpVi8TuHRyH54Q63QQdpCEDW7oF
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lulz.
no lulz were had. This fills me with furious angry rage:
OINK.CD SHUT DOWN?!?! WHAT THE FUCK? TVLINKS, NOW OiNK?!?!??!
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God, there need to be more sites that act like TPB does. Albeit TPB has been subject of some pretty drastic measures, (companies hiring hackers or people to break into the data center that they are hosted from), but they're still running.
EDIT: ARGH, I just found out that now Demonoid is blocking canadian traffic. Fuck the CRIA.
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At work right now, can't listen to that comcast file yet, but did you find out where the person was from?
I would laugh so hard if it was an agent where I worked.
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zakamiro, i love you.
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Just watch the drama unfold!
http://consumerist.com/consumer/comcast/comcast-ceases-throttling-traffic-after-negative-ap-story-314759.php
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Swoot.
I actually don't have any problems with throttling here. Last time I did any semi-heavy torrenting iptables did show a hundred or so RST packets so it's possible that Sandvine was doing its work, but they didn't bump down my speeds or anything like that (my rates were 1MB/s down and 120kb/s up consistently).
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The Pirate Bay is currently working on an OiNK replacement in an attempt to bring the hundreds of thousands of music albums back online that disappeared during the raid. The replacement will be released within a week and on the BOiNK.cd domain.
Nice.
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The drama unfolds!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_on_hi_te/comcast_data_discrimination;_ylt=AkZgpEshk1lPS71ChZus9_oDW7oF
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I seriously hope comcast gets pwned by all this. They may be the second largest ISP, but they need to be taught that you NEVER fuck with the people who pay you. Essentially, this is like a fat person going to an all you can eat restaurant and trying to take 3 or 4 times the normal meal, and this particular restaurant decides to delay the large amounts of food that this particular person wants, on the basis that they're fat. It's blatant discrimination against filesharing as a whole...
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I'm really interested to see how the FCC reacts to this all. Net Neutrality is serious business.
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Sad, but that just made me laugh rather hard... lol.
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INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
Excerts I found to show pure pwnage:
- Two of the groups are also asking the FCC to fine Comcast $195,000 for every affected subscriber.
- The Associated Press reported that Comcast hindered file sharing by subscribers who used BitTorrent, a popular file-sharing program. The AP's tests confirmed claims by users who also noticed interference with some file-sharing applications. [You can't fuck with AP]
- The co-signers are Consumer Federation of America; Consumers Union, the publisher of Consumer Reports; Media Access Project; Public Knowledge; and professors at the Internet practices of the Yale, Harvard and Stanford law schools.
- Web anchors like Google Inc. and Amazon Inc., joined by consumer groups, opposed the notion, saying it would make Internet service providers the toll keepers of the Internet and enable them to stifle competition and innovation. [Oh, you also can't fuck with Google. Sowwy.]
This fills me with furious happy rage. It's good to finally see us getting an upper hand. If BitTorrent gets blocked, what's next? FTP? SSH? IRC? It's just going to start the question, "Well if we can block ____, why can't we block ____?" Then once that happens, it's: "Pay $__ for FTP access" Like telephone systems and shit. I want the WHOLE INTERNET, ALL THE TIME, FOR AS MUCH AS I WANT.
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Exactly. I like my internet in one piece.
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Pfft. Bring it on. They can't stop filesharing, they can only inconvenience it. The worst they can do is convince the idiots who download limewire that they simply can't do that now. Politicians, lobbyists, copyright enforcers... they don't seem to grasp the fact that they're not just declaring war on consumers, they're declaring war on an army of geeks who are very intelligent people. And history has shown that, well, you don't fuck with the angry geek armada.
The nature of the internet, literally, interconnectivity guarantees that anyone connected can communicate to anyone connected. Filesharing is part of the internet, you can't somehow make it unpart of the internet. Basic architecture... you can't ban bricks and then make a brick house. And honestly, I'd be very happy to see someone figure out a way around this bullshit. I mean, this sort of crap makes me think anarchism might actually be a better idea. Does no one else feel a little bit of a giddy rush whenever they're reading slashdot or whatever and hear the state-of-the-art bluray encryption has been cracked?
I bought the Serenity DVD the other day. Actually bought. It was like, $12, but I paid for it. I own the physical disc (which is somehow now scratched). I put it into my computer to watch it on my new widescreen LCD monitor, and I notice I can't play it in linux. I need to download a potentially illegal library just to decrypt my DVD and play it to me. I am not copying it, I am not sharing it. I am playing my property in a setting I control. My computer's been playing up a bit lately, and the video skips a bit. So I take it out and throw it into my plain ol' DVD player. What do I get? Ads. A message telling me "video piracy is stealing; stealing is against the law"- what the fuck? I can't even skip it: I can't skip the message playing on a legally purchased DVD telling me that stealing DVDs is wrong. You know what I got when I played it on my computer? I got the FUCKING MOVIE I PAID FOR.
Argh. Sorry for the rant but this reeeally pissed me off.
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Actually, there was a lot of talk a couple years back about completely restructuring the entire internet. If that were to happen, they actually could destroy filesharing. Of course, that would likely only bring us back to the age of dial-up BBS systems, rofl.
And yes, I agree that being unable to skip that screen is really stupid. The way I see it, when I purchase something like a DVD, I am purchasing a license to use the contained media in any way I please, be it backing it up, hacking it, disassembling it, recoding it, etc. I will admit that some things are morally wrong in that system (for example. hacking a game in such a way that it reports amazing scores online, or other such hacks that technically could be done to a PS2/Xbox game that would ruin other people's internet experience,) but I don't see it as being strictly illegal. I am opposed to EULAs being able to dictate pretty much any stipulation they feel like over us simply by putting it down in a little text file. They could write an EULA that effectively bans you from doing anything but holding that DVD in your hands, and it would be technically legal (until someone brought it to court and the EULA was ruled against due to it being ridiculous [probably involving fair use, now that I think about it], but that's another matter entirely.)
There are so many idiotic and ridiculous things that these companies are trying to do that it's no wonder people are pirating everything. The internet has created a culture where people feel connected, so to speak, to everyone and everything. In this connected world, we do not view music and video as requiring us to pay rather hefty amounts to enjoy something. We see this as something that is forced upon us by large corporations who are trying to deal with the changing times by imposing an old system on us, and we do not like it. Fortunately, a number of higher ups in the music industry seem to understand that their system is failing, and I believe they are slowly beginning to search for a way to continue to make large profits off a new business model. The unfortunate part is that because they are so preoccupied by the idea of still making enormous sums of money, they are blind to the fact that there are many more options than they are looking at. They only see a few shortsighted systems that ultimately will fail due to the open system that is the internet.
If you look at Radiohead and Trent Reznor's new releases both using alternate systems for distribution and both giving an option to the user to get a copy for free, you can see what the new system SHOULD look like. Radiohead still made a large sum of money releasing their new CD online with the ability to chose exactly how much you felt like paying for it. Aproximately 1/3rd of people did not pay anything to download their album from the website, and out of the people who did chose to pay, the average payment was about $4, if I remember correctly (I can't locate the article I read it in), but it still adds up to a very large sum of money, and since they no longer have a major label to support, the money more or less goes right to the band (which means they are probably seeing as much profit from this as they would from a CD that was a huge financial success for their label.)
Honestly, if I had the cash, I would have payed something for it. I like the feeling that I get from knowing that I actually payed for something. Unfortunately, I rarely have the money to do so, and I refuse to let being broke come between me and at least being able to listen to music. I can't even afford CDs, so it's not like I can listen anywhere but my computer anyway. I know that stealing is wrong, and all that crap, but my stance is that I honestly don't care if the labels get my money anyway, because I'd rather support the band than the label, but that's almost impossible unless I buy something at a concert (unlikely for a number of reasons) or find some way to buy it directly from the band. Other than that, there's little reason for me to pay for it unless I really want to have the CD at full quality and the satisfaction of owning that particular CD.
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That quote just further proves to me that Sharon Osbourne is an idiot.
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holy crap tl;dr, lol.
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Is Ozzie Osbourne even still alive? Eulgh. Not my thing. >.o
Also didn't the dialup BBS systems facilitate filesharing which inspired the gaming market adaptation into shareware?
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Yes, basically. BBS systems were the original method of distributing shareware games. I know the Doom shareware was originally released that way.
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Hell yeah. Does anyone ever hear about artists like Gorgoroth or Noisekick doing everything in their power to aid anti-file sharing organizations? The only artists that complain are those that do not make music to make art, but only to make money. I personally would really like to see the current music industry destroyed and replaced with one that is in the underground.
If I made an album, I'd rather have 1000 people pirate it and make no money than at most, 20 people buy it for a few dollars each.
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Well, obviously, the system is always going to be based on making money, but a system like the one I described earlier will be much more accessible. No longer will everything on TV be pop controlled by like, 3 major labels. We'll begin to see adverts for smaller bands, and likely we'll begin to see more open minded music channels as well. Albums will cost less, and be easier to buy, but it'll probably still be fairly rare to get a big name's album for free unless you pirate it.