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The Chatterbox => Gaming => Topic started by: tommy on January 11, 2008, 03:01:45 PM
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i mean, i need new pads, and they're like $80 or some retarded shit. dunno why adding a peace of 1-inch thick foam bumps up the price $50 but whatever. is there still a ddr 'scene' or whatever? does it still basically suck?
and how are supernova/2? ddr universe (and 2? is there a 2?)? does stepmania still have a bunch of pad steppers making terrible charts for other bemani songs and shitty j-pop?
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If you enjoy playing, sure. I've never really gotten out of it because I still find it fun (though I rarely play official charts -- I typically play on ITG2 machines with custom songs enabled).
and how are supernova/2?
SuperNOVA is meh. Dunno about SuperNOVA 2.
ddr universe (and 2? is there a 2?)?
Pretty decent.
does stepmania still have a bunch of pad steppers making terrible charts for other bemani songs and shitty j-pop?
Naturally.
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and how are supernova2?
Wind It Up (Original Neptune's Mix)
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With no a0.com for all the cool keyboard sim makers, the scene has fractured and gone to shit. I can barely find any authors who aren't adding boatloads of tripples and shit into their sims now. Why can't Reach make a comeback and make some good sims again....
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I want to see more from Toph. I haven't really checked or anything, but his stuff was awesome, I've always been a fan.
Also, play the game if you enjoy it, regardless if there's a scene or whatever. Unless of course you are concerned with that kind of thing, which is perfectly reasonable.
I say, try out the new shit (which I haven't even seen) and make your decision based on that.
P.S. Hi how are you?
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Yeah, I've been playing stepmania since before I knew of the "scene" and a0.
I'd also like to see more Toph stuff, but I'd like something a bit harder from him, he tended to make charts a bit on the easy side. And they were a bit predictable at times. I'd love to see more stuff by Kilga. He always had some weird patterns, and when a song deserved to be tough, he delivered. I still ahve trouble on parts of his Shining Collection (Fucking jacks. Fucking shitty jacks.)
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Kilga's easily my favorite stepfile artist. Reach is probably next, though. I've gotten to be able to deal with hands in stepfiles, so I'm really likin' Zaghurim's files.
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I can deal with some, but have you ever played any sims by Glove? He throws them in EVERYWHERE. And they're mostly unnecessary, except for making it insanely hard. He has sections with 12th note random hands, like 426 486 428 486 426 and stuff in some of his sims. It's retarded.
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man though i mean do people make pad files that don't suck and don't have shitty music
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I'm kind of partial to Mungyodance (http://www.mungyodance.com/) for pad stuff, but I might be a bit biased.
If you hate anthropomorphic artwork you might want to stay away. If you aren't biased against things just because the Internet tells you to be, give it a go.
Just be warned: the Mungyodance boss songs are painful. MGD2 is worse than MGD, MGD3 is going to be worse than MGD2.
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I'm kind of partial to Mungyodance (http://www.mungyodance.com/) for pad stuff, but I might be a bit biased.
If you hate anthropomorphic artwork you might want to stay away. If you aren't biased against things just because the Internet tells you to be, give it a go.
Just be warned: the Mungyodance boss songs are painful. MGD2 is worse than MGD, MGD3 is going to be worse than MGD2.
yeah uh i'm not a fan of furry artwork not because it's something the internet told me to hate but because it's weird as fuck and i don't get what the hell it would be doing in a dancing game
are the banners and bgs like that and why is this thing an exe and not a zip
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yeah uh i'm not a fan of furry artwork not because it's something the internet told me to hate but because it's weird as fuck and i don't get what the hell it would be doing in a dancing game
lol, run-on sentence.
Also, bear in mind that it's not all anthro art. I just mentioned that because some people are like zomg furriez. It's also all tame...I don't know a single person who was ever weirded out by any of it. Let's just say, my mom's definition of "furry" came from that CSI episode and she didn't see anything strange about the artwork.
are the banners and bgs like that and why is this thing an exe and not a zip
It's a full installer. Mungyodance has its own engine (heavily modified StepMania 3.9) and everything. It's completely standalone.
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i am a furry and should defend this rly cool danceing gaem
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I make a lot of pad stuff these days. I don't really release anything but we'll see. And it's mostly for IIDX and Pop'n Music stuff.
I basically can't stand any file put out by anyone on ODI these days. The charts are just dumb. The entire solo fad they have going is also dumb.
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I still kind of think putting hands in files is dumb, but no one agrees with me >: |
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lol, Ridge
I still kind of think putting hands in files is dumb, but no one agrees with me >: |
I DISAGREE.
Actually, I agree to an extent. People include hands because ZOMG HANDS, not because they actually fit the feel of the song or make for a fun chart. Hands, when used properly, are really fun for me.
(though I don't have a lot of room to talk after being responsible for a particularly horrid chart for Aphex Twin's INKEY$)
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imo hands are stupid when they're over used ex. Atmos Break from MUNGO DANCE
like seriously 134 hands
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It's a full installer. Mungyodance has its own engine (heavily modified StepMania 3.9) and everything. It's completely standalone.
alright that's fancy i guess
so is it all pad or what
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Well, I said in another thread that I appreciate hands to some extent, but I really do think that people just add them because they want to make a file harder, or just to add them. I think Zaghurim does a good job with them, they add to the file without making it excessively hard for the most part, and they're not overdone. But I do also think it's just a logical progression within the community, people are getting better, and I can only assume that there's just a whole bunch of people that are able to do basically anything that doesn't have hands more or less effortlessly.
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Well, I said in another thread that I appreciate hands to some extent, but I really do think that people just add them because they want to make a file harder, or just to add them. I think Zaghurim does a good job with them, they add to the file without making it excessively hard for the most part, and they're not overdone. But I do also think it's just a logical progression within the community, people are getting better, and I can only assume that there's just a whole bunch of people that are able to do basically anything that doesn't have hands more or less effortlessly.
pad hands aren't really hands though, unless it's piu 7913 or similiar. they should be called triples or whatever
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On pads it's fair game, they tend to work okay, but on a keyboard file where you have 16th note jump streams with hands interspersed, something is wrong.
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so is it all pad or what
Yeah, basically.
I wouldn't advise playing some of the boss songs on pad -- some of them are quite difficult (some of them are fun on keyboard, though, heh).
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Yeah, I don't mind the occasional triple, but when there are so many of them, like in Glove's sims, they take away from the song, because it's just plain too hard. People can still make hard songs without making them insane. I STILL have trouble with Shining Collection and is an OLD sim. It's passable, but it's hard to actually get close to a AAA. I mean, that song is just hard (but quite fun.)
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I remember back in the day, Udderdude used to make some kick ass pad files. I still have a folder of his stepfiles on my computer :)
Oh, and also, Toph made some VERY decent pad files, I think he's quite underrated when it comes to padfiles.
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tommy's mungyodance review:
WHAT WORKS- it looks like it has some good songs
WHAT DOESN'T- you can't change the goddamn resolution
hey you know what's great? 640x480 stretched to 1680x1050
goddammit why can't they just use stepmania like normal fucking people
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http://76.215.86.198/~renard/mgdforum/index.php?topic=256.0
this is pretty fucking lol
but, uh, i set my monitor to fixed aspect ratio and it's actually pretty good. decent song selection, etc.
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http://76.215.86.198/~renard/mgdforum/index.php?topic=256.0
hay i post there
Also yeah, I don't think SM 3.9 supports aspect ratio changes, so the only way not to stretch it to widescreen is to set a fixed aspect ratio.
As for why they don't use SM, a bunch of features have been added and such, such as modmines (yeah, they were implemented in SMPlus or whatever, but they were originally in Mungyodance).
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try extra mode ;)
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hay i post there
Also yeah, I don't think SM 3.9 supports aspect ratio changes, so the only way not to stretch it to widescreen is to set a fixed aspect ratio.
As for why they don't use SM, a bunch of features have been added and such, such as modmines (yeah, they were implemented in SMPlus or whatever, but they were originally in Mungyodance).
sm has had 1680x1050 since 3.9 alpha something
unless this is the 3.0 codebase there's not really an excuse
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Also, bear in mind that it's not all anthro art. I just mentioned that because some people are like zomg furriez. It's also all tame...I don't know a single person who was ever weirded out by any of it. Let's just say, my mom's definition of "furry" came from that CSI episode and she didn't see anything strange about the artwork.
(http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08020/screen00001947.jpg)
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yeah i know triple post w/e
mungwhatever 2 has the worst fucking timing windows i've ever seen. protip: if you're going to have a hit/miss system, make it so hit isn't a perfect
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The timing's pretty loose, actually (it's about judge 4, greats or better for a hit). Adjust your global offset in the INI file (yet another SM3.9 limitation -- no included global offset editor).
I'll have to ask AJ if this would be possible to implement in MGD3 or not...
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i guess that maybe my wireless keyboard could have a delay and maybe my pads are broken, but i remember i had trouble with jumps because they wouldn't fucking register
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Yeah, no problems here...
Wireless keyboards definitely have a bit of an extra delay, too. Adapters for pads and such do, too -- my offset was fine when I was using my keyboard but was very off when I plugged my pad in.
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so after looking at some boss songs, i think i'm gonna need some new pads
and legs
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That is the obvious exception. Also, why couldn't they use the original version of that song, since Capitan Jack's cover is so terrible...
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Also, why couldn't they use the original version of that song, since Capitan Jack's cover is so terrible...
Might have something to do with, y'know, Captain Jack's version being very easy to sync...
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Bleh, if someone can synch classical music, I'm sure the original isn't all that hard to synch...
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Don't say "I'm sure it isn't hard" unless you've done it.
It's not hard, per se, but it's really bloody tedious.
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That, I can understand, though that DDream studio or whatever the hell it's called would likely make things a botload easier.
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As I said before, it inserts a bucketload of BPM changes all over the place, requiring extensive cleanup before the file can be practically used.
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As I said before, it inserts a bucketload of BPM changes all over the place, requiring extensive cleanup before the file can be practically used.
very true
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lol
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Lol, well, at least I'm a CMod user, so that wouldn't bug me, aside from noticing the slight speed changes in the health bar animation speed, lol.
But it would likely make timing rock and classical music and such easier.
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man, playing on foam pad hurts waaaay more than playing on piu arcade. in the arcades, there's very, very little pressure needed to activate a sensor, whereas in ignitions it's like STOMP THAT PAD MOTHERFUCKER and it destroys my ankles. seriously, fuego hard hurts waaaaaaay more than turkey march crazy ( ). i've gotten an s on that damn song, too, so i should be able to do this easy.
anyone with some... whatever the hell the current fancy metal pads are (bluesharks? cfs? afterburners?) that work fine and need to be sold? because i'll pay like $100 for one
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I need money, and then I can get something better than my shithole soft pad (not foam, soft... and practically useless, at that). I swear to god, when I have a job and money, I'm going to save up and oder a fucking DDR cabinet, or maybe a PIU. Either way, I'm going to get a fucking arcade machine, because they are just so much better than playing on just about any home setup you can put together.
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anyone with some... whatever the hell the current fancy metal pads are (bluesharks? cfs? afterburners?) that work fine and need to be sold? because i'll pay like $100 for one
I wouldn't advise getting an Afterburner...they aren't particularly reliable. Picture the v1 and v2 CF control boxes, but worse in some cases.
Also, keep in mind that shipping costs are going to be through the roof. Most people would probably want at least $100 for their pad in addition to what it'd cost to ship, so make sure to factor that in as well.
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Also, avoid the Nexen, each nexen that I have returned and received has had problems.
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i'm not actually going to buy one though
why would i spend $300 on one fucking game that's ridiculous i could put that towards a wii or a new computer (which is what i'm saving for now) or something
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Also, avoid the Nexen, each nexen that I have returned and received has had problems.
I was going to ask about the Nexen since it seems to work with everything.
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I was going to ask about the Nexen since it seems to work with everything.
Yeah, it's a really good pad when you have it functional, but it just doesn't work. The first Nexen that I had had a loose connector plate, I returned it and received another bs pad that didn't work. Called mymybox last week, "oh ok we'll send another cable", and still nothing. So yeah, avoid it for now.
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I take it you don't know enough to try fixing it yourself? I wonder how well they work with someone who does have the know-how to fix it and all that...
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I take it you don't know enough to try fixing it yourself? I wonder how well they work with someone who does have the know-how to fix it and all that...
1) Once the connector is loose, there's no way to fix it IIRC. Mymybox had to replace mine.
2)My ps2 cable was defective and mymybox didn't tell me any steps to troubleshoot it or rewire it or anything
im seriously not stupid when it comes to this stuff
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I wasn't assuming you were stupid, but not knowing how to fix things kinda nulls any intelligence on your part, aside from simply trying random things.
I could probably re-wire a PS2 cable with almost no effort... I don't know anything about the connector plate though. If I knew how they were constructed, I might have a better idea of whether it's fixable or not.
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I could probably re-wire a PS2 cable with almost no effort... I don't know anything about the connector plate though. If I knew how they were constructed, I might have a better idea of whether it's fixable or not.
Most of the connectors on pre-seventh generation systems are proprietary. You could probably hack it together with a bit of soldering (or, at the very least, hack off a wire/connector from another controller and splice it together) but good luck finding the parts that you'd need if something should be bad (i.e. missing contact point, etc). The PS2 might use standard Molex pins, I'm not too sure. If it does, sweet.
Thankfully, everything's going to USB and Bluetooth now. Took long enough*.
*Technically the original Xbox used USB, but the connector was kinda sorta proprietary.
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Yeah, I mean, soldering is pretty simple. I fixed my old N64's RF adapter that was being used on my Gamecube by soldering the wire back together and wrapping it in electrical tape, then making our own shielding from a bunch of wire stripped from a thing of speaker wire around the solder, and wrapping it all in electrical tape. If I could do that, a PS2 controller isn't much harder, just more soldering, but I don't believe the wire in those is shielded. I'm not sure if they use regular molex pins or not, though, so I don't know about the feasibility of replacing a pin without hacking off the end of another controller.