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Title: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Milk Chan on September 08, 2007, 09:20:10 PM
No. Fucking. Way.

I don't know of any news article, so i'll just quote their site:

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Torrentspy Acts to Protect Privacy

Sorry, but because you are located in the USA you cannot use the search features of the Torrentspy.com website.Torrentspy's decision to stop accepting US visitors was NOT compelled by any Court but rather an uncertain legal climate in the US regarding user privacy and an apparent tension between US and European Union privacy laws.

I'm pissed. This is where i got all my torrents from.

Proxy time >_<.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: 淫蟲 on September 08, 2007, 09:45:16 PM
Fucking retarded.  People are sill gonna pirate things no matter what, so is "the man" trying to do all in their power to stop it?  Christ, it's just annoying at this point.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: annon on September 08, 2007, 09:55:16 PM
I use isoHunt, and a lot of their torrents come from Torrentspy.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 08, 2007, 10:08:16 PM
Isohunt is by far the best site. It indexes all of those sites other people use, so anything on demonoid, torrentspy, and all the rest are on there. Plus, they'll never block IPs.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Kuroneko on September 08, 2007, 11:53:05 PM
I tend to use ISOHunt and the pirate bay at the same time.  Pirate bay tends to have some additional selections that ISOHunt lacks, which can help when ISOHunt doesn't have what I want.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 09, 2007, 12:15:31 AM
I use their search, I don't look at browsing and such.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Eggman on September 09, 2007, 12:22:28 AM
They were one of the stops I would use when searching for stuff. Guess not now ;_;
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Kulli on September 09, 2007, 01:13:22 AM
This happened a long time ago, I guess I should have posted about it or something
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Grey Knight on September 09, 2007, 09:48:17 AM
People are sill gonna pirate things no matter what, so is "the man" trying to do all in their power to stop it?

Well, to take this to an extreme, people are still gonna murder each other no matter what, so why is "the man" trying to do all in their power to stop it?



That's right, I just compared piracy to murder.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 09, 2007, 04:12:21 PM
Except of course that pirating music has some positive effects that the RIAA refuses to believe are there... (like you know, learning about bands you've never heard of, or hearing music you'd never pay to buy a CD of before you knew if you liked it...)
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Zakamiro on September 09, 2007, 04:58:00 PM
hella ghey. good thing TPB doesn't care.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Ulti on September 09, 2007, 07:28:14 PM
Yeah, I stopped using Torrentspy a while back, isohunt just seems to do a better job overall. Although I'd use Demonoid if I had a membership :<
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 09, 2007, 08:20:42 PM
I have a membership, but all their torrents are on isohunt anyway.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Ulti on September 09, 2007, 09:30:26 PM
Yeah, I guess that's pretty much true.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Ulti on September 09, 2007, 10:22:15 PM
The only lucky thing you get is milk in bags. >:V
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: annon on September 09, 2007, 10:23:28 PM
Well, to take this to an extreme, people are still gonna murder each other no matter what, so why is "the man" trying to do all in their power to stop it?

cuz guns r bad
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 09, 2007, 11:15:35 PM
The only lucky thing you get is milk in bags. >:V

Wewt, I like milk in bags, lol.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 10, 2007, 01:23:22 AM
I prefer p2p networks with integrated search capabilities to torrents.

When I do torrent though (god forbid) I use the pirate bay. Those guys are just... awesome.

Last time I heard, the torrentspy blocking US ips thing was basically a kneejerk reaction to RIAA/MPAA threats of doom, which is to be expected.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 10, 2007, 02:51:37 AM
p2p networks aren't nearly as effective as a torrent is for delivering either A) special packages, B) large files, and C) Entire albums, or collections (music or otherwise).
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Zakamiro on September 10, 2007, 03:12:18 AM
yeah, getting 3 GB+ files like discographies are hard to find/get on something like limewire... emule is pretty good with huge shit, though
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 10, 2007, 04:44:35 AM
I use the edonkey network, yeah. It plays nice with firewalls and routers.

I've usually had no problem with locating something on ed2k, but I have had problems locating specific things on piratebay, isohunt, etc. The whole 'specific' thing goes two ways I guess.

So you'd be better off with both.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 10, 2007, 05:29:23 AM
Well, edonkey is built on a network that seems to work better for downloading single large files and whatnot. Kazaa and such are better based around smaller files, because people tend to you know, go offline and fuck up your download.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Ulti on September 10, 2007, 02:56:47 PM
Yeah, the whole "lol discography" aspect is the reason I tend to get torrents, because I'm a total whore for completeness, and don't like missing stuff.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: 淫蟲 on September 10, 2007, 03:45:48 PM
Well, to take this to an extreme, people are still gonna murder each other no matter what, so why is "the man" trying to do all in their power to stop it?

My point exactly.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 10, 2007, 11:28:34 PM
See, a lot of people try to defend torrenting and P2P with all sorts of things, but the way I see it, I know I'm stealing. I just don't care. I'm not one of those people who's going to defend torrents to the end of the earth with some stupid point or technicality, unless it's gonna save my ass from jail/fines, but other than that, I'll readily admit to stealing and pirating.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Ulti on September 11, 2007, 12:02:01 AM
Yeah, there's no real point in trying to make yourself feel better doing that. :V
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 11, 2007, 02:26:19 AM
Shareaza is an awesome p2p app. It uses the edonkey, gnutella and gnutella2 networks (as I recall) and pools the resources of the three of them. Very thorough. And also has advanced filtering options which is a must when searching for something like 'horse' or 'twelve year old'.

I do pirate music, movies and porn but I don't like doing so. I refuse to pirate software (this copy of windows is legitimately set up as far as I can tell... I'm probably treading on some part of the EULA... I expect some men in black to come beat me up any day now), especially if there's an open source or at least free equivalent.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 11, 2007, 03:04:35 AM
Shareaza is an awesome p2p app. It uses the edonkey, gnutella and gnutella2 networks (as I recall) and pools the resources of the three of them. Very thorough. And also has advanced filtering options which is a must when searching for something like 'horse' or 'twelve year old'.

I do pirate music, movies and porn but I don't like doing so. I refuse to pirate software (this copy of windows is legitimately set up as far as I can tell... I'm probably treading on some part of the EULA... I expect some men in black to come beat me up any day now), especially if there's an open source or at least free equivalent.

Shareaza is a pretty good program.. one of the few that could actually max out my connection.. Until I got uTorrent that is.

Well, I will pirate software and such, minus windows. I just don't like running copies of windows that required some crap to get them activated and then worrying about windows going "not genuine?? go buy me you pirate!" I prefer my programs not to know they're pirated ;)

Also, it's just better to get the high end programs and such, because usually they're better than the cheap alternatives. I hate to say it, but Open Office still has some kinks to work out before it's as good as MS Word. Albeit I'm too lazy to pirate word, so I do happen to have open office on here.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 11, 2007, 03:24:49 AM
I've never really understood that argument. OpenOffice works spectacularly for me and even has a couple of features I'd really rather not do without, for instance the multiple text selection thing. (where you select text, then hold down control, and select some more text in a separate paragraph.)

As a word processor it's fantastic. As a word processor to counter microsoft word, it's fantastic.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 11, 2007, 05:41:58 AM
I meant little things. Sometimes the kerning gets all messed up, and it's just a little less responsive as far as I can tell than Word.. I dunno, I'm just too used to word, though I've been using OO.org whenever I have the chance.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 11, 2007, 06:44:44 AM
Are you running windows? I've found that a lot of cross-platform apps aren't really that cross-platform. GTK+ apps work fantastically in linux, because that's we're they ought to be. Many other components are built to accommodate them, and Gimp and Pidgin and likesuch are slightly unstable in windows. On the flip side, you have jokes like the ATi video drivers and adobe flash player in linux. Most desktop linux distros come with OOo where it's reasonably integrated into the whole system mechanism. Then again, I haven't touched windows in *SO LONG* and I really don't want to download OOo on 64/64 internet. :(
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 11, 2007, 07:42:43 AM
Yes, I'm running windows. Most games don't run in linux right now, so it's limiting for me. I will say OOo is the most competitive thing I've seen to rival Word so far.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 11, 2007, 08:07:20 AM
how do you mean 'most games'?
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 11, 2007, 12:58:25 PM
I mean like, the vast majority of games that I play. I don't see any linux releases for shattered galaxy, world of warcraft, worms armageddon. By games, I mean commercial games that I play on my PC. Does it even have a PSX emulator?
Pretty much anything written in DirectX won't work in linux.. At least, not to my knowledge.

And if it's an annoying process just to get things working, I still don't want to do it.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Spectere on September 11, 2007, 09:10:37 PM
Are you running windows [for OpenOffice]?

I don't know about Boobies, but I can't stand OOo on Windows or Linux.  I went so far as to run Microsoft Office under Wine (which really wasn't all that difficult, surprisingly) just because OOo felt so incredibly ass-backwards to me (like, WordPerfect backwards).

Many other components are built to accommodate them, and Gimp and Pidgin and likesuch are slightly unstable in windows.

I really haven't had any issues with either of those apps.  Pidgin is my standard messenger in XP because the official AIM client is complete ass.

On the flip side, you have jokes like the ATi video drivers and adobe flash player in linux.

ATI's video drivers are a joke in Windows, too.  You don't even want to know how many issues I have with them.

At least after I got the Linux ones running (read about my painful experience with it (http://spectere.livejournal.com/18137.html)...and yes, the images in that post are broken, but you're not missing much) they ran all right.  Of course, I literally had to find the ONE VERSION in the portage tree that would work.  After I got that version working I quickly masked every other version so that I wouldn't have to deal with it ever again.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 11, 2007, 09:39:56 PM
I mean like, the vast majority of games that I play. I don't see any linux releases for shattered galaxy, world of warcraft, worms armageddon. By games, I mean commercial games that I play on my PC. Does it even have a PSX emulator?
Pretty much anything written in DirectX won't work in linux.. At least, not to my knowledge.

And if it's an annoying process just to get things working, I still don't want to do it.

...install wine, either through synaptic (click, click, close) or command line (sudo apt-get install wine), then from a console 'wine blah.exe'. I've found very little that doesn't work with that, SPSS being a curious exception. Apparently it does work with wine but I don't have the bandwidth to tinker. :|

Stuff like worms armageddon should work like a dream, and you'll find a lot of older games sometimes work better in linux than windows. Remember when everyone was bitching about XP's shitty backwards compatability? Wine's is better. :P

As for PSX, "pSX emulator (more commonly referred to as pSX) is a PlayStation emulator for the Microsoft Windows and Linux operating systems. Its first public Windows version (1.0) was released on January 29, 2006, and the first official Linux port (1.11) was released on February 24, 2007. pSX is freeware, available for download.", apparently.

// interlude //

Spectere dun't like openoffice? I weep. :(

Also now that I see you have a livejournal prepare for more amorous stalkin'.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Spectere on September 11, 2007, 09:49:45 PM
...install wine, either through synaptic (click, click, close) or command line (sudo apt-get install wine), then from a console 'wine blah.exe'. I've found very little that doesn't work with that, SPSS being a curious exception. Apparently it does work with wine but I don't have the bandwidth to tinker. :|

emerge wine > *

:P

Spectere dun't like openoffice? I weep. :(

I despise OpenOffice. :<  I tried to like it but I seriously can't; I just can't get anything done in it.  I spend more time weeding through its "interface" than being productive.

I'd rather use WordPerfect.

Also now that I see you have a livejournal prepare for more amorous stalkin'.

Yez. :>  I've had it for quite a while, ackshully.  WHAT BE UR NAEM?
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 12, 2007, 03:06:52 AM
I usually write in notepad, and then copy paste when I want to add formatting, lmao.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 12, 2007, 04:29:52 AM
I don't have a livejournal. If I did, it wouldn't really be stalking, would it? :D

emerge blah, apt-get install blah, slapt-get --install blah... what's rpm? "yum install blah"?
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Spectere on September 12, 2007, 09:55:38 AM
If you're using RPM, the desired command would more than likely look like this look more like this: yum install a better distro
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Malwyn on September 12, 2007, 10:19:26 AM
heh. Well to be fair, it is an official standard or something, isn't it?

Wait no that's not fair. Ueh.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Spectere on September 12, 2007, 11:06:40 AM
RPM was developed by Red Hat.  'nuff said.

APT is far superior as far as binary distribution, though I'll always be a ports/portage fanboy. :>
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Bobbias on September 12, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
I liked APT, I used yoper for a short time, and I believe APT was the package manager they used.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Ulti on September 12, 2007, 02:32:44 PM
You guys are channeling the spirit of Tommy.
Title: Re: Torrentspy blocks US
Post by: Spectere on September 12, 2007, 04:33:53 PM
I liked APT, I used yoper for a short time, and I believe APT was the package manager they used.

They seem to use a system called Smart, which, from what I can gather, is configured by default to work with both Debian packages (APT) and RPMs.  Not a bad compromise.