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Title: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on November 01, 2007, 03:44:04 PM
discuss.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 01, 2007, 04:37:49 PM
Whats the name of those pills in GTA that let you punch people across a street? I might need some.
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Post by: Zakamiro on November 01, 2007, 05:04:51 PM
I just got done playing (literally) and I don't even know.... I think they're just "pills". heh
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Post by: TimJing on November 01, 2007, 05:06:21 PM
I don't do none. They's bad for ya.
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Post by: Ulti on November 01, 2007, 05:36:20 PM
PCP? :s

I'd be willing to try Salvia, but not much else.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 01, 2007, 06:10:40 PM
Meh, can't stand hallucinogens.
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Post by: Ulti on November 01, 2007, 06:19:40 PM
Ironically enough, it's probably the only thing I'd consider trying.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 01, 2007, 09:16:54 PM
I like drugs. Shrooms are coo' only if your in a good mood. Booze is aight. Salvia is fucking horrible, don't try it.  Weed is like a part of my day now... ermm was. I decided like 2 days ago to see how long I could go without smoking.

Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on November 01, 2007, 11:15:04 PM
All I've tried is alcohol. I personally don't specifically know what I drank, since it was all mixed drinks (except for a shot of Jack, which was strange). I've only done it on 2 separate occasions, but I enjoyed it.

I haven't tried weed or hallucinogens, but I get the feeling I wouldn't like either. I still want to try them, though.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on November 02, 2007, 03:57:53 AM
Ironically enough, it's probably the only thing I'd consider trying.

Haha, I'd rather try hallucinogens than weed and alcohol as well (though weed is a great way to relax!) Alcohol tends not to mix well with me unless I'm sticking to beer, and I haven't smoked up since about new years (that's what happens when you only have one guy you know to go to and you don't see him much.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Malwyn on November 02, 2007, 09:38:49 AM
I've taken to drinking to a buzz every evening or morning or afternoon all through the week. It's pretty awesome, and kind of calming.

Also I want to take up smoking to replace my fidget-habit.
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Post by: Ulti on November 02, 2007, 02:57:50 PM
Cancer D:
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 02, 2007, 04:32:55 PM
I seriously want to do acid again. It was honestly one of my fondest memories ever. I was with a few really good friends that I rarely get to see anymore because of college, and we drove to the beach. Holy shit.

We spent hours making a huge art exhibit with driftwood and a bunch of other shit that we just found all over the place. We had a Crazy Bridge (it was the right of passage), a Barnacle Board, and I made a toilet. There were like ten different exhibits that we all just kind of made on our own, and then one collaborative one that had a dead seagull at the top. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sqthreer/n163000115_30090409_5017.jpg)

If you haven't swam in the ocean while tripping, you haven't swam in the ocean. It was amazing to just sit there in the shallows and watch straight ahead as a decent-sized wave just comes crashing down on to you.

Then later we made a HUGE bonfire and had a visit from a fire marshal. We weren't breaking any rules, but he was just making sure we'd put it out.

I didn't really hallucinate all that much aside from seeing smoke come out of the sand everywhere I stepped and some other random visual illusions because I only took two hits, but it was an incredible experience.

I have begun to dislike smoking weed these days. The feeling just isn't that great, and then the couple days after are just excruciatingly frustrating because I make so many retarded mistakes. I also get the munchies like no other, and that is not good.

P.S. Bobbias: The only hard alcohol that I can drink without making an "oh god why is this horrible liquid in my mouth?" face are J
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Post by: Malwyn on November 02, 2007, 04:51:19 PM
Beach art collaboration? D:

Sounds like that trip to stradbroke island for QCA I never went to. There... was probably acid there. Brought by the lecturers.

Also good vodka shouldn't really taste like a liquid. It should just taste like fire.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on November 02, 2007, 04:53:27 PM
Ugh, just the scent of vodka makes me want to swear off alcohol altogether XD
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on November 02, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
Most of the reason I'd like to try Salvia is it won't basically incapacitate me for a whole day.
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Post by: Zakamiro on November 02, 2007, 05:59:48 PM
A common after-effect from salvia is happiness. Yeah, after-effect... Since coming back to reality from the high has made you happy it's over. hahaha. I'd like to try it sometime, but it's so fucking expensive for just a 15 minute trip.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 02, 2007, 06:26:15 PM
Isn't it just about 20 bucks for a small container of it? I think it's legally sold as an incense in some smoke shops. But if I'm right, that's a relatively average price for a trip. Although, if you were to spend 20 dollars on drugs, buy some shrooms. Those'll last you about 20 times longer :D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 02, 2007, 07:29:35 PM
If you've never tried hallucinogens before, I don't recommend starting with Salvia. If you do it right, the high is insanely intense to the point where you can become incapacitated. My friend (one of the ones I did acid with) tried Salvia once, and he described it like, to him, reality just "broke" right in front of him. It ceased to exist anymore, but he was still somehow conscious, and he was 100% positive in his mind that it actually happened and that it would be like that forever. He also had an intense sensation that he was being pulled forward at an infinite speed to the ends of the universe.

I've never tried it, but I'd be totally willing to. The only thing I don't like about it is how short it is. The high is like, 5 - 20 minutes long I think, but for some people it seems like thousands of days go by in that short amount of time. I prefer longer lasting hallucinogens like psilocybin mushrooms or LSD. My beach trip lasted about twelve hours, and that was only with two hits.

I tried weaker salvia and it wasn't so bad. For like the first 5 minuets (seemed like 20 or so) I couldn't talk to anyone. Also my friend that tried it just kept rambiling on, not even saying words. It was nothing bad tho, kinda fun.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on November 03, 2007, 12:04:44 AM
Sq3r, your beach trip sounds really awesome.

I'd definitely be willing to try a hallucinogen just as a religious-type experience, but absolutely no hard drugs ever. I wouldn't smoke anything at any point in my life either.

Alcohol is meh, the only stuff I've ever had that I actually enjoyed drinking was Captain Morgan Pineapple Rum, which was amazingly delicious.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on November 03, 2007, 01:01:30 AM
Fuck, I want to try acid. I've tried salvia once, but I only got a quick small body buzz for a minute or so. I would not suggest people unexperienced in trips try it unless they really know what they're getting into, because it is one of the most intense trips readily available.

I'd love to try salvia, shrooms, acid, e, and maybe something like peyote, or something, but that's not likely going to happen any time soon... But the only reason I'm interested in them is because I've made sure I educated myself on them enough to understand them fairly well.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: 淫蟲 on November 03, 2007, 10:59:57 AM
I occasionally drink, but I don't really like it enough to drink regularly.  I'd like to try weed first chance I get though.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 03, 2007, 02:13:09 PM
Most of the reason I'd like to try Salvia is it won't basically incapacitate me for a whole day.

shut your fucking mouth don't try it, It's horrible. This is coming from someone who likes the effects of most drugs. Its like acid in 15 minutes.( NOT GEWD)

P.S: When I've tried salvia I always used 25X or up.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on November 03, 2007, 02:56:32 PM
I will not say don't try it period, but please, before you do, make sure you have some experience with hallucinogens, or make sure you are totally ready to deal with whatever happens. Most of the people that are heavy drug users that I've talked to online that have done salvia agree that you should respect salvia not as a party drug, but as a religious experience. Don't do it simply because you get fucked, do it because when you are in a hallucinogenic state, your mind is open to seeing things in a radically different way. These people =have said more than  once that when you do not respect salvia, you are much more likely to end up with a bad experience. A lot of it is the mentality you view salvia with. If you see it as a quick high, you may not be fully ready for the strength of the effects, and how powerfully it can change your mind. However, if you see it as something that you are willing to welcome, and don't become anxious or scared, and are willing to roll with whatever comes, then you're more likely not to get a bad trip.

I highly suggest that anyone trying a hallucinogenic drug for the first time use erowid.org to read up on the drug. You should have some understanding of how it actually achieves it's effects, as well as what other effects it may have. Similarly, you should also have a good idea of the sorts of things people see, and how volatile the dosage can be. Some drugs seem to have more or less the same effects at the same dosage levels, but some of them vary widely person to person, and you should be more careful with those, because those are the ones that you could end up taking a a bad trip and end up with some terrible issues.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on November 03, 2007, 03:37:38 PM
Sq3r, your beach trip sounds really awesome.

I'd definitely be willing to try a hallucinogen just as a religious-type experience, but absolutely no hard drugs ever. I wouldn't smoke anything at any point in my life either.

My beach trip was amazingly awesome. One of the highest points of my life. I don't think it would have been nearly good if it weren't for the setting and the people I was with. They were my best friends in the past whom I respected a lot, and who you're with (if anyone) is EXTREMELY important with hallucinogens. Pretty much all factors are somewhat important, but I think mainly where you are and who you're with.

I think ecstasy is the hardest thing I will ever do. I doubt I'd ever be interested in coke because, for one thing (from what I hear) the high is really fucking short, and coming down from it is like... horribly depressing. Actually that's another thing to consider when taking some drugs: coming down. For some people it can be an awful experience when you start to come back to reality and realize things just aren't as awesome anymore :[ I've never had that before, though, luckily.

I would not suggest people unexperienced in trips try it unless they really know what they're getting into, because it is one of the most intense trips readily available.

I'd love to try salvia, shrooms, acid, e, and maybe something like peyote, or something, but that's not likely going to happen any time soon... But the only reason I'm interested in them is because I've made sure I educated myself on them enough to understand them fairly well.

Quoted for emphasis. Before I try ANYTHING (even when I started smoking marijuana) I read up on it like crazy. Wikipedia is a great place as well as Erowid, like Bobbias said. I will never do anything that is infamous for being physically addicting (coke, heroine, meth, etc.) and most of the things I have done have very few negative health effects on the body. Even acid is relatively safe if you trust your source. It's not entirely synthetic, so that helps a little bit. I'm definitely not saying that things I've done are ALWAYS safe, I'm basing it on statistics I've read and just common sense.

I've done X a few times, and I was not impressed. That is something I suggest you stay the hell away from unless you're POSITIVE it's okay. From what I've heard, most pills these days are like 20% MDMA and then cut with shit like speed and meth and whatever else the maker can fit in there >:[ The first time I did it, it was just a really mild body high, and my emotions were really super unstable. I was with a friend, and if I sensed he wasn't happy, I'd get really depressed and have to think about happy things to feel better. The second time it did absolutely nothing, and I took three pills. And the third time I think it was probably mostly cut with meth or speed or something because my friend and I (the same one) walked to a 24/7 store at one in the morning and sat in the deli and chatted really fast for four hours straight, constantly changing subjects. That actually kinda sucked because coming down from it was just totally instant and I suddenly didn't even want to talk to my friend at all anymore.

shut your fucking mouth don't try it, It's horrible. This is coming from someone who likes the effects of most drugs. Its like acid in 15 minutes.( NOT GEWD)

P.S: When I've tried salvia I always used 25X or up.

Might I ask why you didn't like it? And is 25X a lot? I don't really know a whole lot about it yet.

And I'm going to reiterate this because it's super important as some of you seem to be taking an interest in drugs. Think about what you're getting into. Illegal drugs are ILLEGAL and you can get fucked over if you're caught. But most importantly READ THE FUCK UP ON SOMETHING IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. Never jump into something blindly, because drugs are illegal for a reason; they do very weird and different things to your body. Don't just trust a single person who says it's okay and safe, and know where you're getting it from. I say this applies to EVERY drug; even weed. Some weed has been known to be laced with acid or other shit, which -if you're not expecting it- can really be a shitty experience. And a side note for people interested in hallucinogenic drugs, you absolutely must have a stable and healthy mind, and be confident in yourself to handle the experience. Like Bobbias said, they open up your mind to completely new ways of thinking and feeling, which can be scary, and it's easy for some people to have a bad trip. If you have any kind of predisposition to mental illnesses like schizophrenia, bi-polar, or even just anxiety, the repercussions can be pretty bad.

I know I sound like a counselor or something right now but from experience (not that I am the drugs king or anything) and reading a LOT about them, you have to know what you're stepping into.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 03, 2007, 07:38:40 PM
Might I ask why you didn't like it? And is 25X a lot? I don't really know a whole lot about it yet.

25X is pretty high for you're first time with it. With mine it was only 15X or 10X so it wasn't all that bad. Also pharmer.org is pretty decent when it comes to finding out what pills you have and what they do.
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Post by: Ulti on November 03, 2007, 09:28:02 PM
If you're going to try ecstacy, you can buy testing kits to see what your pills are actually made of.

http://www.dancesafe.org/testingkits/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on November 03, 2007, 10:59:45 PM
You know, I think there are better kits out there, that one simply shows you whether there is actual MDMA in your pill, not how much, or what other drugs may be present.

I can't remember what site it was (some safety site dedicated to ex), but they had a system where you could input location information and such and send them a pill to analyze with a 5 piece test which tested for a number of drugs that can be there to give you a much better idea of what it is. Of course, you can also look this information up with previously sent in ones, so if you have a pill listed there by location, approximate time (as in, don't trust older submissions), shape, stamp, and colour, you can actually see a detailed report on (hopefully) the pill you have. Of course, it is always good to have a home testing kit as well.

If I can figure out the site again, I'll post a link.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 04, 2007, 01:31:35 AM
Testing kits are alright, but if you're really that worried about it, don't even bother taking it. Maybe the E I got was just bunk, but I was not pleased with how it affected me. If I could get hold of some molly (pure MDMA powder :D) I'd be up for doing that maybe.

I'm going to a bar my mom used to work at to see her for the first time in over a year XD
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Post by: Malwyn on November 04, 2007, 05:26:20 AM
I went to brisbane on the weekend, bought some blueberries and handed them out to shopkeeping folk at west end (hippiesville). One of them, incidentally operating a herb shop (cue lulz) was pretty high. He liked blueberries quite a bit! I was tempted to just grab his collar and stick my tongue down his throat.

Also I bought a hipflask. It has a king of diamonds on it... I would have preferred say, jack of hearts or ace of spades or something, but it's still cool. I've yet to test how much vodka I can fit in it.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 04, 2007, 09:38:13 AM
Haha, nice.
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Post by: Zakamiro on November 04, 2007, 10:39:03 PM
the link for being able to send in pills for testing was on that page, bobbias...
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Post by: Bobbias on November 05, 2007, 09:26:09 AM
Ahh, I was only skimming over that page.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 05, 2007, 09:18:10 PM
Not smoking really fucking sucks.  :-[
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 05, 2007, 09:29:52 PM
Not smoking really fucking sucks.  :-[

Anything you make a reuten out of can be.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 06, 2007, 01:59:46 AM
I'm glad I never got addicted to pot XD
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Post by: TimJing on November 06, 2007, 06:14:08 AM
I'm glad I never got addicted to pot XD

Yeah, same. I dislike the entire concept of smoking anything, and I'm glad I've never tried (or for that matter, gotten addicted to) pot, cigarettes, etc.

Plus, I do kinda have asthma. Smoking anything would in no way help that >_>
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Post by: 淫蟲 on November 06, 2007, 11:48:58 AM
I don't like the concept of smoking too.  But you can use the oil from weed and bake into anything that uses butter, right?
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Post by: Bobbias on November 06, 2007, 12:51:39 PM
Yeah, actually, THC is fat permeable, which means anything you cook with that has lipid cells in it (fat cells) such as lard, or oily type things like butter can absorb the THC from the leaf itself, or from a concentrated oil.

While I'm not a fan of smoking cigarettes and such, after having smoked pot and cigars, I'm more open to it. I'll admit that it isn't good for you, and it does damage your lungs, and cigars and cigarettes are bad for your health, if you aren't a heavy smoker, the effects won't be so bad.

Oh, and I never got addicted to pot either. I've never had a problem with getting addicted to it, for some reason. I may want to smoke it more often after I've smoked up, simply because I like being high, but I don't consider that an addiction because it's completely controllable, and it's only mental. I prefer to use the medical definition of addiction: A substance which your body has become used to and dependent on it's presence for normal operation.

Oh, and has anyone here done a popper (There are other names, but that's what we call them here). That's when you don't use a bowl, you use the slide itself, and you back some tobacco under the pot to hold it up so that you can smoke all the pot, and then breathe in hard enough to pull the tobacco through and into the bong. For some reason they get me really high really quickly, and tend to last less. (Though I've never been able to pull the tobacco through, because by the time I've burned the pot, my lungs are full.)
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 06, 2007, 03:56:37 PM
I've had weed butter before, it's funny because it's green.

For people saying they don't like the concept of smoking, I was the same way, but when I first did it, I thought it was pretty interesting. I just imagine that this is what it would look like if you could see carbon dioxide when you breathe out or something XD. Smoke rings are super fun to make, too. I've never tried a cigarette, so anyone who has done that and smoked weed, is it easier to smoke the former or the latter?

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Post by: Bobbias on November 06, 2007, 04:18:49 PM
I hate cigarettes. I've tried both and have to say that I MUCH prefer weed. Since it's not dry, weed has a more "heavy" feeling smoke. Cigarettes have a kinda empty feeling smoke that irritates the back of my throat a lot.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 06, 2007, 07:34:51 PM
smoke weed then ciggerettes. Tobacco smoke is much thicker than pot smoke.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 06, 2007, 11:53:52 PM
Well, it feels like it has no substance to me, but that could have something to do with the fact that I'm more concentrating on how much it irritates my throat.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 07, 2007, 12:59:47 AM
At this point, I really can't tell the difference. Cigarettes tend to make me cough a bit more though.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 07, 2007, 10:19:43 AM
Plus, when smoking tobacco, the smoke you exhale is not nearly as thick as when smoking pot.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 07, 2007, 10:38:10 PM
At this point, I really can't tell the difference. Cigarettes tend to make me cough a bit more though.

Hah, that hardly seems possible. Also my friend just bought an once and a half of pot while he's on his final month of probation.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 07, 2007, 10:57:25 PM
Lol, just hope he doesn't get busted. That would get him pwn't hardcore.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 07, 2007, 11:08:19 PM
Lol, just hope he doesn't get busted. That would get him pwn't hardcore.

He is planning on selling it, so hopefully not.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 07, 2007, 11:16:53 PM
Now that makes things worse. (I was thinking he was keeping it for personal use,considering even that much isn't a huge buy for personal use, lmao. I know guys who buy nearly an ounce a week sometimes. For personal use.)
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 07, 2007, 11:32:15 PM
Now that makes things worse. (I was thinking he was keeping it for personal use,considering even that much isn't a huge buy for personal use, lmao. I know guys who buy nearly an ounce a week sometimes. For personal use.)

haha, When my friend was on Probation back in the day he couldn't smoke all the weed he had so he started to sell it. Its really easy to do as long as your not a total moron.

P.S: hint hint
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 07, 2007, 11:51:34 PM
An ounce of pot a week is insane, that's like $400 a month or something, depending who you get it from. Wtf. I buy maybe $40 at most and that lasts me a month XD

Plus, I dealt mushrooms for a while. I bought three ounces ($240) and after two weeks I made a $5 profit :D And I got to have quite a bit for myself, too. Getting caught will get you fucked over, though. It's dangerous.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 08, 2007, 12:05:25 AM
An ounce of pot a week is insane, that's like $400 a month or something, depending who you get it from. Wtf. I buy maybe $40 at most and that lasts me a month XD

Huh? my friend payed around 400+ dollars for what he just got. Also he would only sell to people he knows, plus everyone where he lives smokes.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 08, 2007, 01:11:25 AM
Maybe I'm thinking of a quad or something, I dunno :/ I've never bought anymore than like, three eighths at once.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 08, 2007, 09:56:47 AM
Well, my friend is the sort of guy to smoke $10 worth before school, $10 0r $20 during school and more at home a day.

Also, you need to find a way to get me some shrooms, lol. I don't know anyone who deals them, and I'm too paranoid to go out looking, and I haven't hung out wit the guy I buy pot from., who occasionally does shrooms and could probably get me some, in like 6 months.
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Post by: Ulti on November 08, 2007, 05:19:01 PM
Do a little research, and you could probably find them lying about in the woods.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 08, 2007, 06:54:23 PM
Do a little research, and you could probably find them lying about in the woods.

Do a LOT of research, getting the wrong thing could easily kill you. Also I think they only really grow well in cow poo, also I think they only really grow in warmer environments.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 08, 2007, 08:41:11 PM
Its very easy to send things VIA mail. I'm not sure about mailing across borders though. As long as there is no return address its all good.

An ounce of pot a week is insane, that's like $400 a month or something, depending who you get it from. Wtf. I buy maybe $40 at most and that lasts me a month XD

lulz, me and my friend used to split an ounce every 3 to 4 days. It works out very well.
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Post by: Malwyn on November 08, 2007, 11:01:09 PM
Do a LOT of research, getting the wrong thing could easily kill you. Also I think they only really grow well in cow poo, also I think they only really grow in warmer environments.

They're fungi. Fungi aren't autotrophic and they can't really move too well. Sticking to warm moist environments like poop is basically how they survive. And, incidentally, a lot of fungi are mind-altering. So are a lot of plants. Someone ought to write a book about going into the woods and eating stuff and recording what happens.

...until he dies and gets eaten by winged monkeys of course.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 08, 2007, 11:22:45 PM
I know that I need to do a LOT of research if I'm going to be picking them myself, and some do indeed grow on cow crap. However, not all of them do. Unfortunately, from my first couple searches, it doesn't seem like there is too much info on which ones happen to grow near my place. With fungi, you really need to be careful because there are some that have hallucinogenic properties, but are also deadly, or at the least, toxic. AND some of them are VERY Close looking to others. SO unless I can get me a book with VERY clear info on them, I'm not likely going to eat anything around here. Sometimes it sucks being in the middle of nowhere. Stuff like subcultures that are worldwide (like music and drug cultures) tend to be rather small in this area due to there being fewer people around here.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on November 09, 2007, 12:58:29 AM
My physics teacher is for legalization of drugs. Not because he's a stoner, either. He figures people should be allowed to get as screwed up as they want. Plus, since weed is easier and cheaper to produce than tobacco, the government could easily just slap a tax on a bag of weed that may cost about 1/10 as much as it would from a dealer. Because of this, the money in the illegal drug industry would pretty much go away.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 09, 2007, 01:25:07 AM
Mushroom hunting isn't easy, and like everyone is saying it's VERY dangerous if you don't know a lot about it. Some mushrooms that are lethal sometimes don't start taking effect until up to 12 hours after eating it. And even if you just try a tiny bit it could still be deadly.

I've gone hunting a few times, but with no luck. They do grow near cow pastures and whatnot, but also near rivers in foresty areas and just in some backyards. If you want specific information on mushroom picking, identifying, growing, eating, etc. visit www.shroomery.org. This site is awesome. It's also good for if you want some help identifying some you've picked as long as you make a spore print and describe it in detail with pictures. There are tons of mushroom experts on there to help out.
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Post by: Ulti on November 09, 2007, 03:11:07 AM
Yeah, I was going to suggest spore prints, but you beat me to the punch. My dad has a great book on mushrooms, mostly because he goes and picks edible ones, like morels and things.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on November 09, 2007, 10:42:35 AM
Spore prints are probably the best way to identify mushrooms, but there are some mushrooms that have nearly identical spore prints as well, which makes even that a tough way to identify them.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 09, 2007, 04:52:41 PM
Hey have any of you ever tried Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake?
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 09, 2007, 07:19:31 PM
Hey have any of you ever tried Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake?

Metalocoplyps  ;D.
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Post by: TimJing on November 15, 2007, 09:43:56 PM
My mom got a bottle of Citrus Smirnoff for a little party she had on Sunday, and she only used about half the bottle.

Needless to say, the bottle is now nearly empty. I've been making myself quite a few Screwdrivers. I find them delicious.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 15, 2007, 11:21:13 PM
I only wish my parents were more ok with me drinking. I mean, you can make the choise yourself not to drink and still not be an ass about things. My parents, despite not actually doing anything to stop me, are a pain about drinking. I can't have friends over to drink in the basement, although I can drink by myself here. And their attitude whenever they see me go out and buy myself a case of beer (like, a 6 pack of Guinness or something). They always bitch about something. I know WHY they don't drink, and I certainly understand their reasons, but I've always been the kind of person who needs to learn by making the mistake himself, and even if I make a mistake, it's not as bad as it could be. I'm never going to be one of those people who gives everything up just for their next high, or next drink. I only do what I know I can afford to. And I only push myself so far. If I drink and black out most of the night, I know I had too much, or had it too quickly, so I'll slow down and take better watch of how much I have next time. If I get a hangover, well, that's what I get, and I'll deal with it.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 16, 2007, 01:15:13 AM
My dad doesn't know anything about what I do or have done XD Not even alcohol. I recently told my mom that I smoked pot and have done acid before. She was actually really cool with it, which is neat (my mom smokes pot, too) and makes me feel a lot more comfortable about talking to someone else about it.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on November 16, 2007, 01:57:34 AM
Both of my parents at one time were really into drugs. The only thing they do now is smoke pot from time to time and drink occasionally. They are pretty cool with whatever I do as long as I am safe about it.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 16, 2007, 02:10:01 AM
They are pretty cool with whatever I do as long as I am safe about it.

Same with me, which is a huge surprise since my sister went to rehab and almost died.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 16, 2007, 04:32:10 PM
Wow, ouch. Well, my dad used to drink, but my mom's dad was a bad alcoholic for a while, so she doesn't like alcohol. She Drinks a bit with friends, but she smokes pot more. However, she's still really against us smoking pot because it's illegal, it's "addictive" (uhh, not exactly, psychologically, yes, physically, no), and it can fuck people's lives up if they're not careful, and apparently my mom doesn't seem to think that my brother or I could be "careful" about that sort of thing.

My mom is a stubborn bitch who doesn't realize when yelling does more bad than good.

My dad is somewhat understanding, but doesn't want us smoking pot either. He's a bit better about drinking too, but still gets rather angry if we get sick and need a ride home from him. So my house is rather oppressive when it comes to drugs and alcohol. My mom gets mad because she regrets things she's done that we're doing (not caring about school, smoking weed) and wants to make us stop somehow by yelling at us over and over again.
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Post by: Malwyn on November 17, 2007, 12:46:50 PM
One of my sisters is a party girl. She gets very drunk fairly often, but in the "I'm in my mid-twenties, it's coo'" sense. She also used to be very lax with the softer drugs, clearly she'd tried half of them. Now she's graduating from her psychology course, and she KNOWS man, she just KNOWS that everything you put into your bodies will kill you. A single great aunt with schizophrenia is a family history. She's seen all the articles and her professors tell her that casual use of anything will get you a swift kick in the balls from God, and my god she's a condescending hypocrite.

My eldest sister studies medicine, and she was unbearable before that. My parents barely drink wine (box wine, incidentally, but only 'cause it's cheap. They don't seem to get the idea that box wine is for getting drunk, and traditionally tastes as much like shit as possible), my grandmother died from about 40 years of pack-a-day smoking.

And... well I've started to feel a 'wanting' to keep smoking. I walk down to the park, sit down at the gazebo and have a cigarette while listening to music. Then walk around the park clockwise in a figure-eight pattern. On the latter half of the eight, tonight, I decided to have another cigarette, 'cause the first one just wasn't long enough. Considering the first few cigarettes I had were along the lines of "oh, come on, END already", I figure this is what addiction is like. It's fascinating.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 17, 2007, 04:08:30 PM
Well, I've smoked a couple times, but it seemed that after every time I smoked, I had this little feeling in me that was saying "come on, smoke another". Not something that I had to listen to, but it was definitely there, and I do NOT get that feeling from anything else, so I fugyre that was the addictive properties.
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Post by: NewF on November 17, 2007, 04:43:52 PM
Yeah man, smoking is very addictive. I didn;'t think it myself when I first tried it, just thought to myself "meh, not a big deal, i'll try it"
But then I kinda liked it...then I wanted another one..and it kept going from there.
Now it just sucks.
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Post by: Bobbias on November 17, 2007, 04:51:13 PM
I knew enough to not smoke another, but I can understand how easy it is to get hooked. I'm lucky I realized that that little craving was what it was, and quickly stopped it. My brother, however, has been smoking since grade 9, so there's no chance of him stopping any time soon now.
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Post by: Alice on November 17, 2007, 05:33:47 PM
I'm somewhat addicted to caffiene, I'll end up wasting $2 or $3 per day on Mt. Dew.  It's such a shame.  Every time I pass a machine it's like "Hey, over here, BUY MEEEEEEEEEEeee..."
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Post by: Bobbias on November 18, 2007, 01:38:27 AM
Have you ever had any caffeine withdrawal? I'm not sure myself, but when I was going to school, if I didn't have a pop before about 9, I'd have a rather bad headache. I drank an average of 2 bottles of dr. pepper a day, plus 1 pop at about 6:30, and probably 3-4 pops after school a day. I think that's what you'd call addicted.
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Post by: Spectere on November 18, 2007, 08:30:50 AM
I'm somewhat addicted to caffiene, I'll end up wasting $2 or $3 per day on Mt. Dew.  It's such a shame.  Every time I pass a machine it's like "Hey, over here, BUY MEEEEEEEEEEeee..."

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ;_;

Have you ever had any caffeine withdrawal?

YES.  It's seriously doubleplus unfun.

Granted, it sort of depends on how much you consume and how often you do so, but if you're pretty badly hooked you can expect nasty headaches and extreme tiredness.
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Post by: TimJing on November 18, 2007, 11:07:42 AM
My American History teacher is obsessed with Diet Coke. She used to drink an ENTIRE 12-pack a day, but now she's just down to 5 cans. It used to be the ONLY thing she drank. Can you even imagine that? >_>
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Post by: Bobbias on November 18, 2007, 01:00:12 PM
Yeah, while I'm not entirely sure whether the headaches and tiredness I'd get were caffeine related, I think it's highly likely. I stopped drinking pop in the morning for a while until lunch, and I'd get really bad headaches and be tired starting around 9 and ending by lunch, when I'd have my pop.
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Post by: annon on November 18, 2007, 01:42:21 PM
My pre-calc teacher from last year had this 64 oz. cup that he refilled more than once a day with Dr Pepper from I think QT.
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Post by: TimJing on November 18, 2007, 01:43:32 PM
My pre-calc teacher from last year had this 64 oz. cup that he refilled more than once a day with Dr Pepper from I think QT.

That's a lot of Dr. Pepper.

I don't even like that stuff >_>
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Post by: Bobbias on November 18, 2007, 02:05:16 PM
I love it. I wish my parents bought Dr. Pepper instead of coke...
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Post by: Sqthreer! on November 18, 2007, 03:22:47 PM
Man I used to be horrible with drinking soda. I'd go to a grocery store with my friend when they were having good deals on Mountain Dew, something like ten 2-liters for $10, and I would buy ten of them and take them to my friend's place where we would proceed to drink at least two of them over the course of the night.

One time, fairly recently, that same friend and I went to a 24-hour family diner at about one in the morning and drank 15 cups of coffee each until about four in the morning. During my frantic caffeine high when I got home, I did some research and calculations and discovered that we drank about 700% of the stated point of caffeine overdose. Another thing is that I hate my coffee straight, so add on two little creamer cups per cup of coffee, and at least three various types of powdered something packets.

Man that was a crazy time. I don't recommend it unless you really want to shit piss (essentially).
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Post by: Bobbias on November 18, 2007, 03:47:25 PM
Lol, It's a good thing that even at 700% overdose you didn't get a heart attack, because that is technically possible.
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Post by: Spectere on November 19, 2007, 01:43:04 AM
I love it. I wish my parents bought Dr. Pepper instead of coke...

TOTALLY.  Dr. Pepper is amazing.

Ah well, at least my parents are generally Pepsi or RC drinkers.  I much prefer them to Coke.

One time, fairly recently, that same friend and I went to a 24-hour family diner at about one in the morning and drank 15 cups of coffee each until about four in the morning. During my frantic caffeine high when I got home, I did some research and calculations and discovered that we drank about 700% of the stated point of caffeine overdose.

Eh, you do build up a sort of tolerance to it after a while.  That's why soda/coffee drinkers can't get any sort of rush from their beverage of choice after a while -- their daily dose simply manages their dependency; for the drug to have any effect they have to up their dosage.  It's a vicious cycle, really; if you ween yourself off you'll suffer cravings and sickness, if you cut your dosage entirely you'll crash, depending on how much you typically drink.

On the bright side, when you crash you tend to want to sleep a lot.  When you're sleeping you don't tend to feel the massive headaches that you would probably get otherwise. ;P  When I was up to something like 5-6 cans of soda a day (not really a whole lot compared to some coffee/energy drink whores) I did a massive cut and slept...14-16 hours, I think?  Not healthy.

also ZOMG A DRUG THAT SPEKTUR KNOWS ABOOT
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Post by: Bobbias on November 19, 2007, 02:35:17 AM
Lol, yeah, I drink coke when I'm going to bed even. I slept from 10 till 1:30 tonight, and drank a coke between a couple minutes before going to sleep, and a couple minutes after waking up at 1:30. I have a new coke with me right now. Energy drinks have no effect on me now, unless I get 2 or so, but I'm cheap, so I never do.

Also, never ingest too much caffeine when you're high. Being EXTREMELY fidgety, shaky, and restless and hardly realizing that you're shaking and fidgeting while being stoned is not exactly a good thing. Not to mention the combination of being stoned and your mind going nuts from the caffeine is not pleasant. It really wrecks the point of getting stoned and makes you VERY easy to be caught.
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Post by: annon on November 29, 2007, 09:57:00 PM
A girl in my economics class is selling shrooms. She offered me some for $15, and I'm considering it. At the same time, though, the idea of hallucinogens really just freaks me out.

Good idea Y/N
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Post by: Bobbias on November 30, 2007, 03:25:36 AM
Well, shrooms can be an amazing experience, but I suggest that if you do buy them, you take a couple things into consideration:
A) You'll need something like 6 hours free, where you can be away from anyone who would catch you, or who might make you freak out.
B) You will want to stay away from your parents, unless they're cool with you doing shrooms. It's pretty easy to catch someone on shrooms.
C) You need to be in a good mindset. If you are freaked out when you take them, or think you might become freaked out, you probably shouldn't take them. If you do, you'll likely have a bad trip.
D) Have some understanding of what the trip will be like. It's not all just seeing pretty patterns. For the most part, shrooms need a pretty decent dose to induce full on open eye visuals. Quite a large portion of the effects of shrooms are other things. http://erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_effects.shtml has a list of the things, sorted into Positive, Neutral, and Negative effects.
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Post by: Ulti on November 30, 2007, 04:16:12 PM
I once ate 6 maximum-strength no-dozes. That's more than a gram of caffiene. :3
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Post by: annon on November 30, 2007, 10:55:27 PM
The more I read about shrooms, the more hallucinogens freak me out. I probably wouldn't be in the best state of mind upon trying shrooms, and the main reason I'm freaked out is the possibility of a bad trip.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on December 01, 2007, 03:27:13 AM
A girl in my economics class is selling shrooms. She offered me some for $15, and I'm considering it. At the same time, though, the idea of hallucinogens really just freaks me out.

Good idea Y/N

Honestly, $15 is a pretty good price (depending on how good the shrooms are, obviously) and I, personally, would go for that, but for you, I don't think it is a good idea. My reasoning is that it really is not worth it at your age when your privacy, especially, is very limited, or even any age at all, really. Getting caught with mushrooms isn't good D:

By the by, I had a sketchy encounter with an officer of the law while hanging out in my car in my usual place on the side of my road, smoking pot. Cops rarely come on the road and that's where I've been doing it for about a year now, with no trouble until now. But yeah, he pulled onto my road and for some reason I could just tell it was a cop (this was really late at night, by the way) and when he saw my car he turned on his big bright side light at me :[. So I inconspicuously hid my pipe and whatnot under the mat on my car and also took out my phone. I always have an excuse on file in case something like this happens. This time it was that I was getting out of my house to talk to my girlfriend because of my roommates' sleeping XD So I had my open phone in my hand and he asked what I was doing, and I told him. He checked out my ID and looked at my license plate number then told me to have a nice night :/ Every time I get high, I practice acting sober a lot, just in case, and it really paid off, heh. I was pretty gone, too. I'm also really surprised that he didn't smell it, or if he did he didn't mention it.

ANYWAY, juss sayin wuts noo.

The more I read about shrooms, the more hallucinogens freak me out. I probably wouldn't be in the best state of mind upon trying shrooms, and the main reason I'm freaked out is the possibility of a bad trip.

That's the funny thing, a lot of the times when people have a bad trip, it's because they are afraid of having a bad trip. And that's the exact reason you should be using to determine whether or not you do them, in my opinion.
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Post by: Bobbias on December 01, 2007, 09:20:10 AM
Yeah. I don't think I'd be too much at risk for having a bad trip, simply because even though I know how bad trips can get, I don't dwell on it, and I still want to try them out. Of course, I'll also make sure to not take too much, because going too deep too soon can freak you out and cause bad trips too.
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Post by: 淫蟲 on December 01, 2007, 03:19:22 PM
What kinds of things do you experience during a bad trip, exactly?  I might consider doing hallucinogens someday, but am also afraid of bad trips.
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Post by: Bobbias on December 01, 2007, 07:26:38 PM
Generally, what happens is that it amplifies your fears, and essentially you spiral into a trip full of fear and anxiety. Occasionally you will have bad visions and such, but generally if it's your first time, and you are anywhere near smart you won't have taken enough to see stuff anyway. Of course, the other part is that most of the people who have bad trips are too stupid to understand doses anyway...
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Post by: Sqthreer! on December 02, 2007, 03:57:58 AM
A bad trip could be as mellow as just becoming really really depressed (this is usually if you have the predisposition to depression, though) because like Bobbias said, it amplifies any emotion you may experience at the time (though, one time I did mushrooms, emotions ceased to matter anymore, or even exist)) or really freaked out and anxious/nervous/uneasy/etc... I think the biggest problem with having a bad trip is the paranoia. Paranoia can go through the roof when you're tripping. This, however, can be avoided if you're in the proper environment, which is insanely important in the whole situation.

This is just from what I've read and heard of, though. I've never had a bad trip myself ;D

EDIT: OH YEAH! I forgot about the more "physical" attributes of a bad trip. I don't know how prominent it is with mushrooms, but with acid, the vivid sensation of your skin being crawled on by many little tiny creatures or insects is pretty popular. Also, my friend said she was shroomin' with a friend and her friend sat down somewhere and felt like she was falling through her seat really fast and just pretty much continuously falling, which really scared the shit out of her. Some of the sensations and feelings you have when you're high can be really uncalled for, uncomfortable, annoying, confusing, etc. But this really depends on your tolerance of such things, I think.
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Post by: Bobbias on December 02, 2007, 09:42:53 AM
Yeah, some people can just roll with whatever feelings they encounter, while others can freak out really quickly. I don't really know how well I'd do with that sort of thing, but I've never had a bad trip either, so meh.

I've had some very minor paranoia when I got high before, but the most that came from it was when I was walking home, I'd look at the houses around me, and they seemed to be really creepy. I would imagine they were like a face, with the windows at the front representing eyes and such, and it felt like they were sorta watching me. Of course, I knew at the time that it was just my paranoia and pretty much ignored it. It was a weird feeling though.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on December 02, 2007, 09:09:36 PM
I did shrooms while hanging out in a lounge type room. I only had close friends with me, who were also doing shrooms. I'm pretty sure that't the only reason why I had a good trip. In any other situation I would be worried as fuck thinking about the po-po.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on December 03, 2007, 02:30:36 AM
I had a group shroom trip once. My and five other people each did at least one eighth (my friend and I [the ones who provided them], had a half an eighth a half hour before we all did them.) After we all peaked, 'bout an hour later at 1am, we unanimously decided to go to Sharis (which, if you don't know, is a 24-hour family restaurant chain in the northwest). The trip there was lots of fun. We were passed by three cop cars, and saw two people pulled over by them on the way there (we were walking, btw) and a couple people got sorta nervous. But I'm always the optimist when I'm on shrooms so I was able to get people into good spirits pretty easily. I won't describe the trip there in detail (though I could and would if anyone cares to know) but one fun thing that happened is, I found a little resealable bag on the ground and thought it was awesome so I gave it to one of the two girls cause she thought it was awesome, too. On the way there she found various little things (mostly pieces of plants and flowers and shtuff) and filled up the bag with them. It was such a cool thing XD.

ANYWAY

When we got to Sharis and got seated (imagine a semi-large group of smiling, pupil-dilated young adults coming in on your shift :D) and realized, now that we're here, we have to order something, which we didn't even consider, hah. So we all had a very long conversation about pancakes, a couple people ordered those, and I got some fries. Fifteen minutes later, after barely anything was eaten, we asked if we could get it to go, and we were back on our way home. So yep, lots of other fun things ensued, people eventually went to sleep, and I went to work later that day at 10:30am :D

THe eND
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Post by: TimJing on December 03, 2007, 06:41:34 PM
Haha, that sounds pretty kickass. Anything fun happen on the way there? You have good stories :D
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on December 03, 2007, 08:36:20 PM
holy fucking shit guys, I just smoked a weed/tobacco bowl out of my bong and I lost my vision for a few seconds. The head rush I got was extremely intense, which means I used way too much tobacco. ZOMG DO NOT WANT!
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Post by: Sqthreer! on December 03, 2007, 08:52:17 PM
Well there was the soul-stealing overcoat on the way to Sharis :D My main friend (the one who I did an extra half-an-eighth with) had this black overcoat he wears sometimes. He was pretty separative and didn't really talk much, then he took off his coat and said that he suddenly felt a lot better. So someone else wore it (the girl whom I gave the bag to) and suddenly, without knowing that my friend felt better when not wearing it, she began trailing away and being quiet. I think I was the only one noticing this, so I convinced her to let me try it on for a sec (after much debate; the coat was binding with her life force, you see, so it was difficult to persuade her). The second I put it on, I felt a rush of loneliness and very much not a part of the group, but at the same time, it was gratifying in some way. So I quickly removed the coat and announced my findings about it to everyone.

And there was this one really big bush we came across that I can't even describe how bizarre it was at the time. It had weird poofy balls at the end that looked like a bunch of nerves that formed a sphere. We all gazed at it for a second because it was kind of "churning" a little bit before we realized that this probably did not look good to outsiders, so we left. And that girl with the bag picked up one of the poofy nerve-balls from the sidewalk and screamed a short, surprised scream because she looked closely at it and thought it was full of tiny bugs XD. It wasn't, of course.

The rest of that night was really weird, after we got back from Sharis, we watched Night at the Roxbury, haha. Well, we kind of watched it. We were mostly just doing our own things and having little conversations with each other. Then someone (I think the bag girl, she was pretty cool in general and I sorta had a crush on her at the time) brought out a full jug of milk and passed it around. I was really pimping the milk, too. I would hold it up to people and say "Have some milk!" really enthusiastically with a big smile, and they'd smile and have some milk and it was nice...

Also, about once every thirty minutes throughout the rest of the night, someone would suddenly declare that we went to Sharis for only fifteen minutes and we'd all have a big laugh about it. You REALLY have to be with the right people if you are gonna do a group mushroom extravaganza, heh.

OH and I suddenly had an enormous urge to draw a circle, so I asked for some paper. It was the weirdest shit when I tried to draw it; after I finished, and I was being very careful, I suddenly realized that I had drawn an obvious oval, but it felt like I drew a perfect circle.

I have TONS of mushroom trip stories XD. Man, I really wish I had some right now D:

EDIT:

holy fucking shit guys, I just smoked a weed/tobacco bowl out of my bong and I lost my vision for a few seconds. The head rush I got was extremely intense, which means I used way too much tobacco. ZOMG DO NOT WANT!

Haha whoa... I've had a really intense head rush just from standing up that lasted about ten seconds, half of the time I was completely blinded and almost fell over.
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Post by: TimJing on December 03, 2007, 09:10:09 PM
words

I love you, haha. I wish I knew you IRL :(
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Post by: Bobbias on December 03, 2007, 11:43:59 PM
holy fucking shit guys, I just smoked a weed/tobacco bowl out of my bong and I lost my vision for a few seconds. The head rush I got was extremely intense, which means I used way too much tobacco. ZOMG DO NOT WANT!

I've gotten those from smoking poppers before (probably partly due to being unable to pull the tobacco through properly, and smoking a bunch of it). I've also gotten it from straight weed. It's the same vision loss as I get when I stand up too quickly, and get light headed and lose my vision for a short time, except that I lose my vision for longer when I get it from smoking up.

I have actually fallen over from it before. I was getting up off the couch upstairs to get something, and I made it about 5 feet or so after pretty much going from laying down to a dead run. Before I could fully understand what was going on, my vision went black, and I fell over. However, it was different, because I didn't feel hitting the ground. I was quite literally blacked out for about a second. I then quickly woke up and my body hurt from pretty much doing a complete faceplant into the ground.

Haha whoa... I've had a really intense head rush just from standing up that lasted about ten seconds, half of the time I was completely blinded and almost fell over.

Same sort of thing that happens to me. Except as mentioned before, I did actually fall over. I believe that it has something to do with the brain receiving no oxygen or blood for a short time when you get up and the blood doesn't move with the rest of you. Or a drop in blood pressure, period. I can't test the theory by lowering the blood pressure in my head though. I could do it if it required me to increase my blood pressure in my head. That's one of the weirdest things I've learned to do. I can actually force more blood into my head. Unfortunately, it also gives me a huge headache.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on December 04, 2007, 12:11:55 AM
poppers

We call them either Coastside Crack bowls, or Moley bowls. Everyone in this small community smokes them. The only other people that I have heard of that smoke them are Australians.
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Post by: Ulti on December 04, 2007, 04:12:51 AM
I could do it if it required me to increase my blood pressure in my head. That's one of the weirdest things I've learned to do. I can actually force more blood into my head. Unfortunately, it also gives me a huge headache.

I can do that too, you turn really red and stuff. I've passed out from doing it, apparently you can pop a blood vessel doing that.
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Post by: Bobbias on December 04, 2007, 11:13:08 AM
Yeah, you could quite easily do that, but since it's as uncomfortable as it is, I don't plan on passing out or bursting a blood vessel, I just happened to have figured out how to do it, lol. (I learned quite some time ago, actually). I can also control my hear rate a little bit. If I calm down enough, I can either slow it down, or speed it up a bit, but it requires a lot of patience and concentration, and doesn't always do much.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 13, 2007, 01:27:05 AM
I just had a friend take 3 big hit's of salvia and did nothing to him, then someone else took a hit and he didn't do anything either, then a third friend took a hit and tripped badly. I guess it only works on some people, shit is weird.
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Post by: Bobbias on December 13, 2007, 02:34:08 AM
How did they take the hits? All drugs are different in each person, but I could pin down why it's not working as well for you guys in general. Here are some small pointers:

*  Use a torch lighter if at all possible, it helps burn it at the right temperature to vaporize the chemical, traditional lighters burn too much of it since it has a low combustion temperature, but a high vaporization temperature.
*  Take large hits, the ideal way is to put as much as you think you can take in the bowl and finish it in 1 long hit.
*  Use a bong, the smoke is much less harsh that way, and you'll be able to take bigger hits, since the smoke will have been cooled by the water, i know from experience that smoking salvia in a pipe is difficult, sine you are inhaling rather hot smoke.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on December 13, 2007, 02:42:49 AM
I just had a friend take 3 big hit's of salvia and did nothing to him, then someone else took a hit and he didn't do anything either, then a third friend took a hit and tripped badly. I guess it only works on some people, shit is weird.

Do you know what kind of place they got it from?

Just wonderin'..........
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 13, 2007, 03:11:19 AM
That could be too. Also, if it's one of those ones where they enhance it (x whatever), we'd like to know what strength it was.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 13, 2007, 03:33:35 AM
Oh yes, that too ;D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 13, 2007, 02:03:57 PM
That could be too. Also, if it's one of those ones where they enhance it (x whatever), we'd like to know what strength it was.

I'm guessing it was 20x, or whatever you would call it. We did have a torch lighter and he took 3 pretty big hits (I'm guessing he filled his lungs as much as he could) and still nothing. He said he felt a little bit like he smoked some weed, but other then that he didn't trip.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 13, 2007, 02:12:57 PM
Wow, 3 hits of 20x and nothing?

When I smoked some, I felt a small body rush for a short time, sorta made me feel a bit like the first time I had weed (a bit of a pre3ssure in your head type feeling at first), and I felt a bit more aware for a minute or so, but that was 1 small hit from a pipe of 5x with a crappy lighter.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 13, 2007, 06:44:38 PM
Wow, 3 hits of 20x and nothing?

It was also out of a small metal tube, the same my other friend got fucked up on. So their isn't a way to tell how this works, right?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on December 13, 2007, 06:55:44 PM
I smoked salvia once and I tripped balls so hard I never want to try it again.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 13, 2007, 11:14:26 PM
I smoked salvia once and I tripped balls so hard I never want to try it again.

Did you have any idea of how hard you'd be tripping?

It was also out of a small metal tube, the same my other friend got fucked up on. So their isn't a way to tell how this works, right?


I dunno, salvia is one of those things that either you trip balls, or you don't. I dunno how to help you, really, aside from saying that you should use a bong. You generally get bigger bowls with a bong, and have a better chance to trip, since you can take bigger hits, and all that.


Remember when we started talking about dizzy spells and such where our vision would darken, and we would become weaker and whatnot? That could be an effect of Postural Hypertension.

Postural Hypertension is described thusly in a pharmacology PDF I've been reading:
Postural hypertension: is an abnormally low blood pressure that occurs when an individual takes a standing position. It is often associated with medication that block the alpha
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on December 14, 2007, 11:34:08 PM
Got completely wasted for the first time about a week ago. Had an awesome time doing it and my parents will never know. :D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 15, 2007, 03:58:05 PM
Got stoned last night after I saw I am Legend and watched half of requiem for a dream and half of from dawn till dusk. I really want to finish requiem for a dream now, also I am Legend was good.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 15, 2007, 04:34:54 PM
Requiem for a Dream is an awesome movie.

I got really high last week and watched Hairspray...
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 15, 2007, 04:59:21 PM
Hairspray? What's with people and that movie...


And how can you watch half movies? Only time I watch part of it is if I'm too busy being drunk to actually watch it, or remember more than half of it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 15, 2007, 05:12:58 PM
And how can you watch half movies? Only time I watch part of it is if I'm too busy being drunk to actually watch it, or remember more than half of it.

The site we were watching them off of had them split up and had really shitty load times.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 15, 2007, 05:59:43 PM
Bleh, streaming movies sucks. Torrents pwn.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 15, 2007, 06:08:31 PM
I saw I Am Legend last night as well, I enjoyed it. The ending just caused me to facepalm, if it hadn't have been so cruddy, the movie would've been freaking amazing, because probably the first two thirds were incredible.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 16, 2007, 01:52:12 AM
The ending just caused me to facepalm, if it hadn't have been so cruddy, the movie would've been freaking amazing, because probably the first two thirds were incredible.

You mean the sort of "LOL RELIGOUSE LISTEN TO GOD" ending? That kind of bothered me in a way, would have been cool if she just turned out bat shit insane. Also I really want to download requiem for a dream.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on December 16, 2007, 07:05:56 PM
gtfo movie fags, go do some more drugs
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 16, 2007, 10:13:38 PM
Hairspray? What's with people and that movie...

The only reason I was even remotely curious about that movie is because of the cast. I remember Amanda Bynes from All That on Nickelodian way . Especially John Travolta's character. That is such a fucking weird role for hime to play... The movie was just weird itself, but I kind of liked it. I liked the message(s) at least.

Oh well Shoop Da Whoop is right. We all need to do some more drugs and alcohol so we have some fodder for this thread.

Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 17, 2007, 01:00:41 AM
Oh, and last night, I had some Guinness. God I love that shit. I could live on draught Guinness. As it was, I had a decent night, it was only a 4 pack, and my GF had 1, plus part of my 3rd, but I was sufficiently inebriated for the time being. I chugged 3/4 of the last can, and would have had the whole thing, but Melissa interrupted me. Then I gave the last bit to her.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 17, 2007, 02:39:15 PM
You mean the sort of "LOL RELIGOUSE LISTEN TO GOD" ending? That kind of bothered me in a way, would have been cool if she just turned out bat shit insane. Also I really want to download requiem for a dream.

No, I thought that was just fine, it was a nice change from The Mist, where religion turns out to ruin fuxing everything. I thought the whole "oh surprise people showing up at the exact right moment after not being there for 3 years" was horribly convenient, like it would never happen. As soon as that happened, the movie turned to mediocrity.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 17, 2007, 10:14:15 PM
I thought the whole "oh surprise people showing up at the exact right moment after not being there for 3 years" was horribly convenient, like it would never happen. As soon as that happened, the movie turned to mediocrity.

You mean the big community with the huge gate and the church in the background? That was already set up when the mutations first happened, it was just the majority of the country/world that got fucked over by the that cure.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 18, 2007, 04:29:27 PM
Yeah, I thought that was pretty much the most anti-climatic thing ever. -_-
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 20, 2007, 03:54:50 AM
Man, I'm, the last person awake out of my friends... And I still managed to get drunk, despite the fact that I was supposed to be the sober one, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 20, 2007, 09:38:18 AM
Doublepost for still drunk. And still awake, They all abandoned me, but I still have 2 beers left. I fucking out drank everyone there. Well, kinda. One of the guys finished a mickey of rum without getting anything, and gave up drinking for the night. I'm still half drunk, and lovin' it.

Fucking A.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on December 20, 2007, 03:58:49 PM
Rum and Jolt

TRY IT
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 21, 2007, 02:42:13 AM
Energy drinks and liquor do work nicely. I would drink red bull and vodka, but I want to seem straight.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 21, 2007, 03:43:42 AM
Tim Horten's Coffee + Raspberry Vodka is absolutely amazing, and I highly recommend it. If you're not planning on getting too drunk, it works better, because too much vodka and the alcoholic taste comes in, but just enough and it tastes like you added a shot of their raspberry flavor to your drink.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 21, 2007, 04:24:05 AM
You know what I had recently hat was surprisingly good? Root Beer Schnapps :D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 21, 2007, 04:27:27 AM
Interesting, never knew they even made that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on December 23, 2007, 03:39:14 AM
somthing about aderall a really long time ago...

ok, I just tried this and I have to say I really fucking enjoy it. I smoked 2 spliffs and had 30mg of adderall. After this I saw I am Legend, and I had a fucking amamzing time. I felt a ridiculous amount of emotion in there. I am coming down from it now, so Ill take a look at this ta'maraa.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 23, 2007, 04:09:57 AM
How do you get aderall anyway?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 23, 2007, 06:24:46 AM
Adderall is a prescription drug for ADD. A lot of kids who get it just sell it to their friends :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 23, 2007, 06:39:25 AM
Rofl, damn. Makes me wish I had a friend who had ADD, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 23, 2007, 01:37:17 PM
How do you get aderall anyway?

I used to take it actually.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 23, 2007, 02:27:18 PM
/me doesn't know whether to be envious, or concerned.. eventually settling on envy.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 23, 2007, 02:45:53 PM
/me doesn't know whether to be envious, or concerned.. eventually settling on envy.

I took it for my ADD. Didn't like it much.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 23, 2007, 02:55:04 PM
What is it like by itself, anyway?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 23, 2007, 03:18:55 PM
More or less, it's like speed. I can't say for sure though, since I've never done speed. But it does essentially the same thing for most people from what I've heard (obviously I'm no expert [I plan on staying away from the stuff, myself]) It suppresses your appetite, and your need for sleep, and you just get a very positive feeling like you should be doing something productive. If you're comfortable around people, you get VERY talkative and enthusiastic. Or in my case, you withdraw into an odd state of insanity and talk to yourself as you write gibberish as fast as you can on your notebook at a restaurant at four in the morning. I only took two pills, too.

My friend Skip (whom I got it from) took nine once and was at a swimming pool with some friends. He spent most of the time running around and folding everyone's towels and cleaning anything he saw fit.

Some advice: If Adderall makes you feel way better about your life when (or if) you take it, don't do it anymore, or at least do it very infrequently. I see it easily being addictive.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 23, 2007, 09:46:31 PM
I've taken it before, although I just took two as well. It made me jittery, and gave me the ability to stare at a wall, basically without blinking, for an entire class period. I was in a good mood though. I have friends who take it to study, they'll pull all-nighters and be like, completely on-task the entire time, and end up basically raping their tests.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 24, 2007, 03:59:32 AM
Yeah it's hugely popular amongst college students and whatnot for that exact reason. Of course the time I took it, I also got pretty drunk at the same time. Mixing alcohol and Adderall isn't usually dangerous, but it's really interesting. It's like, you get to keep all the cool parts about being drunk like the confidence and extrovertedness, but it almost completely nullifies the sloppy and bad judgement attributes of it. If I had wanted to, I could have very safely driven a vehicle somewhere.

I'm really thinking that being drunk and on Adderall for the first time was what drove me into temporary insanity (this is no exaggeration, either, by the way :/) but I also recall that the occassion was in the midst of a period of about ten days when I had done about five different drugs, including the Adderall and alcohol. The first thing I did was E, which was really lame. Then I took almost nine grams of shrooms and had one of the best experiences of my life. Two days later was the mildly meth-like drunken Adderall session, and overlapping severall of these occasions was, of course, weed. About a week after all this, I heavily broke down on the phone with my girlfriend and cried for about an hour straight.

Oh by the way, my Adderall "trip" lasted for about sixteen hours D: I don't know if that's typical but it was enough to convince me, in my unstable condition, that I would be how I was forever.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 24, 2007, 04:38:08 AM
Wow, that's insane, 16 hours? (And that temporary insanity thing is really bad... hope you don't go through anything like that again.)

I doubt I'll ever manage to get a hold of that stuff, (since I don't know anyone with ADD,) but it sounds like it could be immensely useful at times. Hell, by the sounds of it that's what I'd need to actually do homework. I mean, when I tried to do homework, I could never focus, I could never keep myself on task unless my parents were really forcing me, and even then, my mind wandered all over. In 45 minutes, I might get 5 minutes worth of work done, when I was doing homework.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 24, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
Haha, it really only lasted about 6 for me, just the school day. But you took a lot more than I did.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 29, 2007, 02:46:13 PM
Well, I just had one of the longest drinking experiences of my life last night. I went to a friends at around 8:30 and started to drink some mixed drinks. Then as the night went on more people came and and I started to drink more. Then me and my friend had this long talk about how I was being realistic with my college courses (he likes to talk when he's drunk, so I listened) and after that we went to IHOP (bad idea). So on the car ride their he keeps asking how he's driving, he wasn't swerving and he was staying in his lane but he was still really nervous about driving since he had an accident a little while ago. So we pull up (we had 4 people going in 2 different cars) at about 4-4:30 ish and the kid riding shot gun in the other car was passed out with his head hanging in the window, then start talking with the people that were changing shifts for like a half hour. So when we get in side we order and we each eat about half of what we got, but talked and messed around with all of the waiters for probably an hour or so. So we are about to leave and my friend that drove asked the other kid that drove if he liked his car, he said he wasn't sure so my friend let him drive it and I had to drive the car with a passed out kid in the passenger. So I drive it back to my friends house and all most run out of gas on the way, and the kid stayed asleep the whole time. So it was about 7 and people where going to go to sleep, so at first I wasn't going to even bother, but once I sat down I changed my mind. Then my other friend woke up at about 9:30 or 10 and me him and this girl leave. On the way home he starts driving about 90 and passes a cop hidden, so he quickly turns down this road and into the church parking lot. The cop goes down the road, sees us and pulls behind us with his lights on. Surprisingly he was nice about it and just gave my friend a ticket instead of pushing for running from a cop. Also my friend got insanely lucky that the cop didn't search his car, considering he had 2 open bottles in back and weed in his center console, and this is about the 3rd time he's gotten away with insane shit with cops. And then I got home, also wall of text.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 29, 2007, 03:08:59 PM
Wow, that was... A bad idea...

I wish I had some weed so I could stop my fucking toothache.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 29, 2007, 03:51:12 PM
also wall of text.

If I hadn't noticed that disclaimer, I would've just dismissed that tl;dr. Next time break that up somehow, haha
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 29, 2007, 03:57:57 PM
If I hadn't noticed that disclaimer, I would've just dismissed that tl;dr. Next time break that up somehow, haha

I would have, but 3 hours of sleep, so meh.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on December 29, 2007, 09:02:28 PM
Wow, that was... A bad idea...

I wish I had some weed so I could stop my fucking toothache.

rofl, you live in Canada dude. Drive over to BC and pick up a sack.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on December 30, 2007, 11:36:34 PM
I think Boobies is still working on getting his license.  I doubt his parents would take him anywhere to buy that. :P
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 31, 2007, 11:50:01 AM
Both points true.

My toothache is still around today, not quite as bad as it was yesterday though, I went to the emergency room, and after about 3 hours or so, I got some Tylenol 3's and some antibiotics. I'm gonna have to see a dentist after I get rid of the infection. I'm not going to like that :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on December 31, 2007, 08:07:22 PM
Toothaches are bitches. :(  I hope it's nothing too serious or, for that matter, painful to fix...
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 31, 2007, 09:13:17 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping too, because I'm NOT happy about dentistry. I believe I mentioned what sort of hoops I went through to get a tooth pulled...
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on December 31, 2007, 09:21:39 PM
Yeah, I seem to recall you mentioning something about screaming and passing out and stuff.  I can't imagine that being a pleasant experience.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 31, 2007, 09:28:57 PM
Well, it was a local anasthetic, so I forgot all the pain I was in after I woke up from passing out, lol, but I apparently screamed on the way home. That stuff worked by putting you to sleep and making you forget all the pain after you wake up.

It's kinda like when you get insanely drunk and fall down and hit something, but forget doing it the next morning, because you blacked out.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on January 01, 2008, 12:17:24 AM
Man I went through a period of my life where I had a lot of tooth problems. Apparently I had some "mutant" tooth growing underneath one of my normal ones and had to have some weird surgery. That was the first time I had the pleasant encounter with nitrous oxide ;D Actually, that was the last time, too. I'm not into the idea of huffing whipped cream cans :/

Anyway, due to lack of money issues, I haven't bought a bag of weed in about two weeks, and since then, I've only smoked once, and it was just a couple o' hits with some friends. It's quite surprisingly easy to go without, I must say. This suggests that I'm not very addicted to the stuff, which is kind of a relief.

OH YEAH!! The couple my girlfriend lives with have a book on psilocybin mushrooms that they let me borrow, and that I've been intently reading over the past week. But holy wow, this book is amazingly useful. Mushrooms became my drug of choice after the first time I did them, for many obvious reasons, so the book has gotten me super excited. I've studied them online a bit, but nothing online can compare to what I've learned in the short amount of time reading. I sort of missed my chance, as most mushies grow in the late summer through fall, but man am I excited to go picking next year. They growing fucking EVERYWHERE it's insane. There could very likely be some psilocybin mushrooms growing out in your yard or on the side of your house. And not only does the book tell you where they grow, but detailed macro/microscopic features accompanied by very clear and colored photographs of many many types of "active" mushrooms. In the past few days I've probably increased my knowledge on the subject by a hundred times (no exaggeration). The book is written by a man who has over twenty years of experience with hunting/growing/consuming/thoroughly studying them.

YAY PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS 8D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 01, 2008, 12:20:33 AM
You need to scan and send me some of that stuff. I'm VERY interested in learning to pick shrooms.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on January 01, 2008, 12:30:29 AM
I would if I had a scanner :/

I might re-scetch some of the cap shapes and other illustrated vocabulary, though. I have a couple friends who are really interested in picking and I am the only one with a reputable source of info. When I do that, I'll definitely send it your way. He even has a little map of the world with dots in all the places that psilocybes have been found, and there are plenty of dots in Canada :]

I'm happy to hand over any answers to questions about them, too. I'm not a seasoned expert, but I've learned a shitload from this book, and I've tripped enough times to give some advice.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 01, 2008, 02:34:10 AM
I don't need advise on tripping so much as when, where, and how to find them. What to look out for and such.

I should also mention that I've tried huffing from a can of whipped cream. I certainly felt the effects after a short time. It was sorta the same as the codeine is, it made me drowsy, more than anything. Still, I was amazed how little I really needed.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on January 01, 2008, 03:01:38 AM
WOO DRUNK POST! ;D

Lessee, I killed off about a sixth of a bottle of Jose Cuervo (a bunch of it "mixed" with orange juice -- and by that I mean mostly tequila with an orangey aftertaste -- and a little bit straight), then mixed apple cider with a bunch of vanilla rum, then finished it off with a cup of a nice mixture of apple juice, cinnamon, and Bacardi 151.  I think this is the most I've ever drank.

FUCK YEAH 2008!
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on January 01, 2008, 04:24:17 AM
I haven't been drunk in a REALLY long time. It sounds kinda good right now.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 01, 2008, 10:25:31 AM
Bacardi 151.

Yeah, that'll get you drunk fast. That stuff is potent.

Last time I went out drinking, I had about 6 or 7 beers and wasn't even buzzed. We were too busy playing Gears of War and Halo 3, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 01, 2008, 07:55:56 PM
I had about 2 coconut rum mixed drinks, then about 4 or 5 beers, then went to a different party and ate some chicken wings and annoyed some older college kids, then went and played beer pong at a mates house where I actually made the majority of the cups of the game and me and my friend beat my other 2 friends 2 to 1.  Was a dandy night.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 02, 2008, 06:47:38 AM
Still haven't tried a beer bong :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on January 02, 2008, 12:45:15 PM
Ew I never wanna try a beer bong. I hate beer enough as it is.

Speaking of bong-type-things, I REALLY wish I had a hookah. They're awesomely nice to smoke.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 02, 2008, 02:52:11 PM
Heh, I want a hookah too. Bot for flavoured tobacco, and for weed.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on January 02, 2008, 03:08:11 PM
I like doing drugs while sitting down and doing nerdy things. Thats about the only time when I enjoy them.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 02, 2008, 04:07:46 PM
I like doing drugs while sitting down and doing nerdy things. Thats about the only time when I enjoy them.

That is when their the most fun (pot wise for me, I haven't really done much of anything else).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on January 02, 2008, 04:52:49 PM
Oh man, the next time any of you do shrooms... seriously... play Stepmania. Not only that, but put on some nice headphones and turn it up loud. It's one of the best thing you can do, period.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on January 18, 2008, 12:26:08 PM
I've smoked at least 3 blunts after school everyday this week. Finals are so much fun guiz.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on January 18, 2008, 01:02:17 PM
I'm pretty sure playing Audiosurf while on shrooms or acid would be the greatest thing you could achieve in your life.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 18, 2008, 01:13:05 PM
Oh man, the next time any of you do shrooms... seriously... play Stepmania. Not only that, but put on some nice headphones and turn it up loud. It's one of the best thing you can do, period.

Just thinking about that makes me wish I had some shrooms. Fuck :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on January 18, 2008, 02:04:15 PM
I never got to fucking play Audiosurf, I'm fukken pissed.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on January 18, 2008, 04:26:18 PM
See the thread, you can still play it, locally. Also, there's another test weekend starting tommorow, if you aren't in a huge hurry.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on January 22, 2008, 10:34:00 PM
Now children, I know your all using drugs. So please tell me about it, or I must just pick a crack sack up.

I've been smoking way too many poppers and hukka lately.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 22, 2008, 11:04:31 PM
I haven;t done anything drug related in forever, still trying to get5 a job so I can't really.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 23, 2008, 04:23:20 AM
Yeah.. Same here (more or less). I'm poor, and haven't smoked up in over a year... (I still can't believe it's been a year)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on January 25, 2008, 07:35:40 PM
I've actually been trying to drink more and smoke less lately. I fucking love 4 packs of guinness.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 26, 2008, 01:25:36 AM
Haha, yes, they are amazing.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 26, 2008, 03:08:22 PM
Bitter beer  :(. I've grown used to bud light  (taste like water) and bud and all that nice stuff.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 26, 2008, 04:52:04 PM
Guinness is bitter, but more like black coffee or unsweetened chocolate, it has a rich flavour. There are lots of really bitter beer that are watery, but still better. (Canadian comes to mind, though I doubt any of you guys have had any.) I like Guinness because it has that dark, roasted, creamy and full flavour to it. Plus, I really like unsweetened chocolate, and sometimes drink my coffee black, for the hell of it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on January 27, 2008, 03:25:21 PM
So, I took a bunch of Oxy last night. Basically the most hilarious thing ever, and I'm going to go buy some salvia today.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on January 27, 2008, 07:32:22 PM
Salvia is very powerful, treat it so.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 27, 2008, 10:50:35 PM
Salvia is very powerful, treat it so.

Quoted for MAJOR truth. I haven't tripped on it, but I've read enough and heard enough to say that you DEFINITELY need to respect that shit. I sound like a broken record, but listen to all the propaganda the government feeds us, because while a good portion of it is completely baseless, if it scares you from doing that stuff, then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

(Because you can't trust all the pro-drug stuff that supposedly debunks all the government propaganda myths either, so you can't assume that everything is as harmless as they would make you think, and all that crap.)

In any case, enough with my crap, I hope you have a good trip.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on January 28, 2008, 01:20:42 AM
No luck finding it. The place I was intending to buy it from claimed it was illegal, which I looked up, and isn't true, at least as far as my google-fu goes. He claimed it was illegal in Washington, but unless it's a freakin' city or county law (can that even be done at that level?), I'm pretty sure he's full of crap.

But yeah the oxy was hilarious, but I'm not going to do it again. I just had a bunch of pills leftover from the summer when I got my wisdom teeth taken out, so I decided I'd get rid of them in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 28, 2008, 01:52:30 AM
Well, if there's someplace I can look up washington/local laws, I'll search for you. I know that it is legal in most of the US, as well as canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Salvia_divinorum

Sums things up pretty well. Unless it's a local law, that guy's completely wrong and bullshitting you.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on January 28, 2008, 04:53:52 AM
Yeah, exactly. I exercised some pretty serious google-fu, and did basically everything short of looking up local laws, and my only conclusion is that that guy has no idea what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on January 29, 2008, 03:56:21 AM
So guys, I currently have Fluoxetine (Prozac) and I was wondering if I could mix it up with anything.

Also, I think I'm going to buy some Vicodin, find some alcohol somehow, and get tore the fuck up before going to school every so often.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on January 29, 2008, 04:00:18 AM
Also, I think I'm going to buy some Vicodin, find some alcohol somehow, and get tore the fuck up before going to school every so often.

Yeah, that would probably be a very bad idea.  If you fuck something up you could die.

It's not worth the risk.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Malwyn on January 29, 2008, 06:17:20 AM
For my surgery recovery, I was given paracetemol AND ibuprofen. =o
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 29, 2008, 10:42:48 AM
lol, ibuprofen is nothing special. Though it tends to make me drowsy, especially at higher doses. And it is pretty good at getting rid of headaches. the reason you were given both is because you can combine paracetamol and NSAID painkillers such as ibuprofen. Combining drugs that work differently to achieve the same effects like that tends to work better than simply upping the dose of 1 drug, and if they are compatible, like paracetamol and ibuprofen, they don't tend to have many dangers, because giving lower doses of both will achieve effects equal to or better than very high doses of either.

As for my recent escapades, the most recent thing I did was get the N02 from a whipped cream can. That just made me tired, lol. But laughing gas is pretty fun, if you get a decent dose.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on January 29, 2008, 05:41:18 PM
Kulli: Just take a couple of them, crush them, and eat them. It'll bypass the timed-released stuff they have, and you'll feel crazy for a few hours. Alcohol will probably get you killed, no joke. Someone at my high school died that way, I'm not even kidding.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on January 29, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
Mixing booze and painkillers isn't a very good idea, but it does get you fucked up. I think both of the substances in some way thin your blood, so you just get that SUPER drunk feeling. IMO, smoke some weed, you will like it a whole lot more.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on February 07, 2008, 12:21:27 AM
The tussin, the tussin. I'm going to try it, I found liquid-gel's with DXM as a main ingredient, with nothing else.

Edit: Took 'em, this is really strange, haha.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 07, 2008, 03:36:08 PM
I hope you did some research to know what was coming first...

Robitussin DX should be the main thing anyone trying the Tussin should go for, it's the only (!!!) liquid cough syrup that doesn't have any other ingredients that might be harmful. Many of them use artificial sweeteners which will make you sick, and any of them with other medical ingredients are also a no-go because they usually have ibuprofen (acetaminophen), which can cause liver damage at high doses.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on February 07, 2008, 05:58:31 PM
Yes, I did a bunch of research, which is why I felt fine doing it. It was pretty damn awesome, although I only took a low dose (150 mg). It was like I was dizzy all the time, but not nauseous, and motion made me feel freaking amazing, so I spent probably an hour just wandering the halls and such. Jumping up and down was made of win and greatness, too. So was Shpongle.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on February 07, 2008, 09:38:38 PM
DXM is a weird drug. When ever I have done it I have reached new plateaus everytime. My first time I did the same amount as you, but it just felt like I was drunk. The most recent time I believe I reached what DXM junkies call the 3rd plateau. I chugged a decent amount of a very large bottle of the tussin'. I felt like a goddamn rug burn beast because I couldn't walk for a while.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on February 07, 2008, 09:59:15 PM
Yes, I did a bunch of research, which is why I felt fine doing it. It was pretty damn awesome, although I only took a low dose (150 mg). It was like I was dizzy all the time, but not nauseous, and motion made me feel freaking amazing, so I spent probably an hour just wandering the halls and such. Jumping up and down was made of win and greatness, too. So was Shpongle.

Listening to psytrance while on painkillers/sleeping pills/buzzed is an extraordinary thing, especially Shpongle/YB/Ott.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 08, 2008, 12:50:07 AM
I'm definitely going to try the tussin one of these days, since it is a relatively cheap, legal, and pretty harmless drug. Plus, the effects seem to be pretty awesome for something still legal :P

(And I think I'd probably manage to chug a good portion of the bottle if I wanted to, I'm not half bad at chugging stuff. Though I know I'd definitely not try that the first time.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on February 08, 2008, 01:55:11 AM
Try to find the gel-caps. It wasn't unpleasant at all. And yeah: I basially hit the first plateau marks right on the head. I probably will try for the second one at some point, but the third and beyond seem a little questionable. Maybe this weekend or something, I still have enough for at least one more first plateau trip.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on February 08, 2008, 08:45:01 PM
The 3rd plateau isn't fun, It's just an experience I guess.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 08, 2008, 09:59:19 PM
I'm actually looking for stuff like the third plateau. I'll work my way up before, but I want to experience the more powerful dissociative and hallucinogenic experiences out there.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 08, 2008, 11:27:56 PM
What exactly defines the third plateau of hallucinogens?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 09, 2008, 02:28:40 AM
Well, in this case http://www.dextroverse.org/whatis.html explains things pretty well.

The plateaus for different drugs are all different, but for any given drug, you can usually separate each person's reaction into a plateau due to the similarities and severity of the different things they experience. Generally speaking, most people never reach the 4th plateau, as it is generally reserved for experiences that people consider a religious awakening, or some similar experience that is so intense that it almost transcends direct categorization.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on February 10, 2008, 11:32:43 PM
I tried it again yesterday, with a few friends. Ridiculously awesome. Still just first-plateau, but it was a bit more intense. The only thing I can discribe it as is the feeling you get when you've been awake for 36+ hours, and are on a whole lot of caffeine, minus the uncomfortableness and fatigue. Plus any fast motions of your head make you ridiculously disoriented, especially vertical ones.

Also tried Salvia this weekend, fairly awesome, but not so much as the tussin.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 11, 2008, 12:58:03 AM
I love how the robo is legal, and relatively cheap, too.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on February 12, 2008, 03:42:39 AM
I know, buying a bottle of the gelcaps costs all of 6 bucks, and it's pretty easy to get two trips out of it, if you're content for a first-plateau experience. I'm pretty much in love with it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on February 21, 2008, 02:04:53 AM
only done mary jane

good experience, but not doing it again

drink sometimes, never been drunk

or i think
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 21, 2008, 03:48:20 PM
Lol, well, it's a lot harder to know how drunk you are than to know how stoned you are. I've done both (though never at once), and I think I prefer getting stoned.. However, it's so much easier and legal to get drunk. Plus, hanging out in the pub and having a couple pints with my friends is a great way to spend a night, even if I don't get plastered. Draught Guinness is the drink of gods.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 21, 2008, 10:50:32 PM
When it's legal for you to drink? Yes it is easier to get. Down here it probably be easier for me to get weed instead of beer. Also don't smoke weed before drinking, I ended up face down in a ditch for like several hours because of it. Also I stumbled past a cop car barely walking while everyone I was with tried to act casual, which I thought was funny as hell at the time.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 22, 2008, 12:09:51 AM
Well, I've heard many tales of people mixing the two and as far as I can tell, the only time you should is when you're in a safe environment (read: no stairs, or anything that could be dangerous ever) and want to get in a state where you are completely and utterly fucked up.

Also, in my case, the only person I buy weed from, I haven't talked to in a long time (like, almost a year). I haven't been stoned since before last newyears.

I may get into a little DXM sometime though... But ultimately, I'll be drinking rather than illegal drugs for now.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on February 23, 2008, 10:24:57 AM
Haha, my friend gave me a bottle of peach Schnapps last night. I felt goofy driving around with it under my seat >_>
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on February 24, 2008, 12:06:48 AM
Haha, oh man, so my friend took some DXM earlier tonight, it's pretty hilarious to watch someone trip out on it for the first time, when you're not on it as well :U
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on February 24, 2008, 01:09:18 AM
So, uh, I seriously got so bored that I started drinking alone just now. :(

Coors Light doesn't taste as awful as I expected, but it's still not entirely pleasant.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 24, 2008, 03:01:26 AM
I actually like Coors. Albeit, I prefer Guinness to anything else. Unfortunately, that stuff ain't cheap :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 24, 2008, 01:21:40 PM
Guinness is bitter and has a strong taste, something like Coors or Bud (especially light) has very little taste once you get used to it. Also my friend who was down for the weekend randomly called me and said he had an 18 pack, which was fun.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 24, 2008, 06:06:27 PM
Well, Guinness is like black coffee or very dark chocolate. It has a very rich, strong taste. Stuff like Canadian, and some other bad beer has a very strong bitter taste without much actual flavor. I hate that stuff. I prefer my beer to either have flavor, like Guinness, or to be less bitter.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on February 24, 2008, 09:57:23 PM
Beer is not good. Beer is icky.

Smirnoff Ice = the shit. epic

That Bacardi and Cola thing is amazing too.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 24, 2008, 11:30:55 PM
Isn't Bacardi Rum? eeew. Also has anyone had Yuengling? I had some Yuengling black and I remember it being the only dark beer I've liked (having not had tried much).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 25, 2008, 04:21:33 AM
I've had bad experiences with Dark Rum. I have had Appleton Estates and Bacardi dark rums. I don't like either of them. However, I do like Lamb's white rum.

Unfortunately, I need to stay away from liquor. I tend to get too drunk off that stuff. Plus, harsh liquors give me heartburn :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on February 25, 2008, 12:39:28 PM
Spiced Rum [captain morgan, others], I try to stay away from just because of, well, the spice.

Bacardi and coke is the most effective and tasty thing to get me gone the quickest. The carbonation helps eat through any food you may have had. And if you haven't eaten, it flies right through you, so you feel it quicker.

Smirnoff is also excellent.

Beer, not so good. If it's at a party, sure, pick one up and walk around with it, but to regularly drink them to get drunk? No. It's all about liquor.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 25, 2008, 01:25:48 PM
Well as I said, I get too drunk with liquor. I drink beer because A) once you get used to drinking it more often, you begin to actually like it (I hated beer with a passion before I started regularly drinking it), and B) It takes me longer to get drunk, which is a good thing, because I'd really rather not pull a stupid stunt and end up in the hospital again.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 25, 2008, 04:38:35 PM
Beer is just easier to drink, liquor on the other hand will mess you up. With liquor you can keep drinking and then it hits you, hard.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on February 25, 2008, 10:34:43 PM
beer is for men, bottom line mutha fuckas. I roll with cheap beer and the finest greens. YALL DIG DAT SHIT
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 26, 2008, 01:31:59 AM
Beer is just easier to drink, liquor on the other hand will mess you up. With liquor you can keep drinking and then it hits you, hard.

Yes. That is EXACTLY the problem. Beer, I can keep drinking right until my limit, and I'll be fine, but liquor, I'll drink, think I'm ok, drink more, and all of a sudden, I'm fucked up.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 26, 2008, 02:01:10 AM
You HAVE to watch what your doing with liquor. I've probably gotten far more drunker/messed up with it, but it can be SO much more fun then beer. Also some mixed drinks are made of win.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 26, 2008, 03:36:10 AM
I've never had a mixed drink I truly enjoyed, to be honest. I usually prefer my liquor straight :/ Even Beefeaters gin is better straight, and that stuff tastes like pine needles.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on February 26, 2008, 05:55:12 PM
I happen to have an affinity for Whiskey Sours and Screwdrivers. Those are pretty tasty mixed drinks, if I had to choose a few.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on March 08, 2008, 02:09:53 AM
So my friend just randomly swings by with weed and beer, so we smoke a bowl on my back porch (I hardly smoked thinking I was getting a job, that and I get paranoid as fuck when I get stoned). After that we walked to his car and started drinking, and then my friends dad and 2 friends pulled up and we handed them some beer and dicked around. Then after that we took my friends jeep off road next to this canal. Then we went into town, met one of my friends friends and they smoked then bought some more beer. Then we met up with the people we where hanging out with before and drove his jeep threw a shallow pond, which ended up giving him a flat. Then after he fixed it he went into town and got more beers, I'm just now starting to sober up.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 08, 2008, 04:02:14 AM
Sounds like one hell of a night. Nice work.

Also: I can see how people could become addicted to stuff with codeine, lol. While it's not as good as getting stoned with gold old THC, it's pretty nice for a legal (and relatively common) high.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 08, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
Oh, Canada. You guys can get the awesome Contac pills with 30 mgs of DXM as well. I wish I could do that :<


I'm pretty sure DXM is all sorts of awesome, for reference.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 08, 2008, 09:32:50 PM
Lol, well, codeine isn't bad, considering it's so common. It's like being stoned, but being a bit more tired, and a tad bit dizzier feeling. It has a sorta confusing feeling, as opposed to the thoughtfulness I feel from being stoned. Of course, I'm only taking 2 at once, because I don't want to get too messed up, and I don't want my parents to think I'm abusing it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 08, 2008, 09:35:40 PM
Yeah, I've done oxy before (Hooray teeth operations!), and it was basically the same thing, in addition to becoming mostly immune to pain. But I still think DXM is way more fun.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on March 09, 2008, 09:31:23 PM
I went to a concert last night and had one of the better times of my life. Before I went to the concert, a few friends and I killed a 10$ handle of vodka. midway through the concert I smoked 2 blunts to myself. Needless to say, I was fucked the fuck up. 

 Check out Andre Nickatina if you like rap.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on March 09, 2008, 10:00:20 PM
I finally finished my Bawls Wall. 30 bottles of Bawls lined up on my window sill. I was saving the last spot on the wall for when I lost my virginity, and... yeah. Woo.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 09, 2008, 11:10:36 PM
Pics. Of wall.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on March 10, 2008, 12:34:27 AM
I finally finished my Bawls Wall. 30 bottles of Bawls lined up on my window sill. I was saving the last spot on the wall for when I lost my virginity, and... yeah. Woo.

dude, I have over 300 rockstar cans saved up. I used to have them stacked in the corner of my room, but that shit looked nasty in there.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 10, 2008, 05:16:01 AM
Rockstar tastes icky :(

I should save all the mountain dew cans I accumulate, I could probably build something awesome, and dorm rooms are pretty much the ideal location for such a plan.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 10, 2008, 12:44:06 PM
You guys have no idea how much pop we drink in my house :/ Between the family, we can drink 3 18 packs of coke in about 2 days. that's about 13.5 cans each over 2 days.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 10, 2008, 06:04:11 PM
o_____________o

Your dentist must LOVE you.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on March 10, 2008, 07:26:22 PM
DIABEETUS
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on March 10, 2008, 07:29:45 PM
Pics. Of wall.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/IceBlasphemy/100_0817.jpg)

Also, this picture is sexy:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/IceBlasphemy/100_0819.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on March 11, 2008, 12:40:08 AM
I would laugh SO hard if all the germs in the Bawls bottles made one gigantic fuzzy mold monster and ate you up.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 11, 2008, 03:04:58 AM
Argh what the fux, damnit florida, you have PALM TREES IN YOUR BACKYARD WHAT >: |||||||||||||||||
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 11, 2008, 11:23:28 AM
o_____________o

Your dentist must LOVE you.

Until I went and got all this stuff done, I hadn't been to the dentist since 2001 :/ It's actually kinda surprising that my teeth weren't in a worse state.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 11, 2008, 03:40:54 PM
Well, that explains it, yikes. I drink maybe a can or two of soda a day and I feel like my teeth are slowly dissolving D:
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on March 11, 2008, 04:22:03 PM
Energy drinks tastes icky :(

Yup.

Argh what the fux, damnit florida, you have PALM TREES IN YOUR BACKYARD WHAT >: |||||||||||||||||

All I have around my neighborhood are pine trees. Makes me want to move up north just so I could see an oak once in a while.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 11, 2008, 05:52:55 PM
Well, that explains it, yikes. I drink maybe a can or two of soda a day and I feel like my teeth are slowly dissolving D:

Well I have a literal addiction to coke. If I don't have about 2 cans a day, I actually get cravings, and get very irritable, and such. I've been trying to cut back on how much I drink lately, but not by much. I'm delaying when I get another can by an hour or 2, unless I have a craving (at which point I get it right away, because not having it is seriously not fun.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 11, 2008, 06:13:20 PM
Well I have a literal addiction to coke. If I don't snort about 2 lines a day, I actually get cravings, and get very irritable, and such. I've been trying to cut back on how much I take lately, but not by much. I'm delaying when I do another line by an hour or 2, unless I have a craving (at which point I get it right away, because withdrawls are seriously not fun.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on March 11, 2008, 08:47:04 PM
Something funny happened at my school today. Some coked out beaner beat the crap out of an extremely obnoxious white kid and his brother. These little white boys really deserved their beating because they're always looking for a fight with weaker people, and this time they had to fight cocaine. Cocaine always wins nigga.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 11, 2008, 09:33:06 PM
Haha, that sounds like all sorts of awesome.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 12, 2008, 07:37:47 AM
Haha, I love when assholes get their asses kicked.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on April 05, 2008, 10:19:55 PM
Hey guys, how bad is Advil PM for you? I've been taking them sporadically the past few weeks and now feel motivated to buy an 80-count bottle of the pills for me and my girlfriend to share. Should I not buy this because it'll probably make me addicted or what?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 06, 2008, 12:16:28 AM
First off, what are you using it for. The sleep aid in those can, at high doses, be used as a deliriant/psychedelic drug. However, I'm pretty sure that to get a high enough dose, you'd have to take a VERY high dose of Ibuprofen (the general name for what's regular in advil.) Ibuphophen can cause liver damage at excessive doses over any prolonged time. I'd suggest reading up on Diphenhydramine and Ibuprofen on wikipedia. (It's a great source of information on how it will affect you, as well as information on the dangers of using too much.)

From what I can tell, Diphenhydramine has a lot of side effects that are not what you'd want. Overall, it's almost like a mildly hallucinogenic version of alcohol, description wise, but it also has some side effects that aren't very good.

From what I've read, you probably wouldn't want to do that. If you're serious about using that in a recreational way, I'd suggest locating another source of Diphenhydramine and possibly even separating it from whatever it's bonded to. However, that may require chemicals you can't get access to, and knowledge of chemistry you don't have.

All in all, I'd advise against it. You may become mentally addicted to that stuff. (sounds like you're right on the cusp of that right now). Being mentally addicted is not really a good thing (though it's easier to break than being physically addicted, it's still not fun to deal with, and in this case, could probably do some damage to your liver, and possibly other areas.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on April 06, 2008, 08:03:47 AM
First off, what are you using it for. The sleep aid in those can, at high doses, be used as a deliriant/psychedelic drug. However, I'm pretty sure that to get a high enough dose, you'd have to take a VERY high dose of Ibuprofen (the general name for what's regular in advil.) Ibuphophen can cause liver damage at excessive doses over any prolonged time. I'd suggest reading up on Diphenhydramine and Ibuprofen on wikipedia. (It's a great source of information on how it will affect you, as well as information on the dangers of using too much.)

From what I can tell, Diphenhydramine has a lot of side effects that are not what you'd want. Overall, it's almost like a mildly hallucinogenic version of alcohol, description wise, but it also has some side effects that aren't very good.

From what I've read, you probably wouldn't want to do that. If you're serious about using that in a recreational way, I'd suggest locating another source of Diphenhydramine and possibly even separating it from whatever it's bonded to. However, that may require chemicals you can't get access to, and knowledge of chemistry you don't have.

All in all, I'd advise against it. You may become mentally addicted to that stuff. (sounds like you're right on the cusp of that right now). Being mentally addicted is not really a good thing (though it's easier to break than being physically addicted, it's still not fun to deal with, and in this case, could probably do some damage to your liver, and possibly other areas.)

What if it was just for once in a while usage, and not regularly? I actually really do feel totally rested once I wake up after taking two of those pills.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Alice on April 06, 2008, 01:20:37 PM
I'm addicted to mountain dew o_o
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on April 06, 2008, 01:53:18 PM
I used to drink like 2-3 amps a day. Those things are fucking tasty.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 06, 2008, 03:14:58 PM
What if it was just for once in a while usage, and not regularly? I actually really do feel totally rested once I wake up after taking two of those pills.

Well, with anything that is used to put you to sleep, (except melatonin) there's always a rick of dependence. I didn't see anything directly talking about addiction on the pages I found (but I didn't check if that thing was listed other places, like erowid), but I still think it is quite possible to become addicted, at least mentally.

Despite the fact that there's no evidence that melatonin is addictive in any way, I found myself taking 1 almost every night, because it made me sleep faster, and wake up feeling more refreshed. That was a mental addiction. I did it because it felt good. I could quit any time, but I didn't feel like it, because it made me feel good. I quit when the bottle was empty. (only a couple days later, lol.)

I'd say you would probably be safe using it occasionally, to help going to sleep, but be very careful you don't start using it more and more often, as Ibuprophen will damage your liver if you continue to use it on a daily (or possibly even semi-daily) rate over a period of time (the level of damage you would receive is probably less than those people who would take it every day for months, but you could still be at risk for damage).

I'm not trying to scare you away from it, but I am trying to make sure you completely understand the risks, and what that stuff is actually doing to you to make you sleep. (I think anyone using drugs should know what is really going on in their body, and should learn about the drug itself.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 06, 2008, 05:23:51 PM
I take benedryl before going to sleep almost every night. PS- lol at recreational benedryl, that is a most terrible idea.

On the topic of real drug-related things, I tried shrooms last night, that was freaking strange. Walls moving, etc.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 06, 2008, 05:28:07 PM
Nice. How much did you take, and please provide a more detailed description.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 07, 2008, 02:09:16 PM
Uh, I'm decidedly no expert on such things, but they were dried, and it was probably around a gram or two total, 4 mushrooms. I made tea out of them, because I hear that's a more mellow experience, and that's probably true, because I didn't see giant critters flying through the air or anything.

Basically, the most entertaining thing that happened was I felt like my entire body was falling asleep for a while, and had the most trouble I've ever had in my life not bursting out laughing at random intervals. You guys know that scene in Trainspotting where the guy sinks into the floor? I'm pretty sure I had that happen to me, except I rose up into the ceiling. That was probably the strangest thing that happened all night. Aside from that, and the aforementioned walls moving and bubbling, there was little else of mention. It was definately interesting, but I'm not sure if it was because I didn't take enough shrooms, or what, because I'd had the impression going in that I was going to trip hardcore. That's probably reserved for acid though.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 08, 2008, 02:03:51 AM
DMT is much more powerful as far as trips are concerned than acid. Did you try to close your eyes? Even at lower doses, you can get some pretty awesome closed eye visuals on shrooms. And the laughing thing is probably the one thing you're most likely going to get on shrooms, lol. A friend of mine said his mom hates shrooms, because she just can't stop laughing.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 08, 2008, 05:22:34 AM
Yeah, I did, but I didn't get anything amazing. I donno, I guess I was doing something wrong. DMT would be ridiculously awesome to get, although from what I hear, it's retardedly hard to get. LSD, on the other hand, isn't, and I'd probably take it, given the opportunity.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 08, 2008, 06:06:35 AM
Well, you probably would have done better to eat the shrooms, rather than make a tea. Oh well, there can always be a next time, lol. Shroom trips are a great way to get used to psychedelics, since they aren't as harsh as other drugs.

DMT tends to cause powerful open and closed eye visuals, generally geometrically patterned, at mid doses. At high doses, like many other psychedelics, it can cause a breakdown of what is referred to as the Ego. This is tripping hardcore, in the most powerful sense of the word. The ego is what makes you You. The ego is your perception of yourself as a person, separate from other people, and the world around you. When you hit the point where you are beginning to lose your ego is when a lot of people really begin to become scared, even if they are somewhat experienced. It's a completely alien feeling, it's beyond visions and tripping in the conventional sense, because you are no longer separate from the trip, and from the things you feel and see. You are one with the trip, in a sense in that state, and the process of losing your ego can scare some people shitless. Of course, the other side to that is that this is the state where some people come to have religious experiences. You think in completely different ways, and come to understand the world from an entirely different perspective. Only the most powerful of trips will ever bring you close to really losing your ego.

DMT is hard to get (harder than most, even the obscure drugs), but it's not really recommended to anyone who doesn't have much experience with psychedelics anyway. It's a harsh drug to smoke, it's a harsh strong and alien trip, and it has the potential to bring you further past your ego than any other drug.

Another interesting psychedelic to try is LSA. LSA is the natural occurring substance that LSD is very similar to. The best way to experience LSA is through Morning Glory seeds. The main issue with that is that even though it's fairly easy to get a hold of those seeds, you need to eat quite a few (I've seen people talking about needing doses between 200-400 seeds), and you are pretty much guaranteed to get sick (I believe it's a natural reaction from the way your body deals with LSA). However, it does apparently have some very nice effects. It also lasts for a long time. (We're talking, 2 hours after getting sick, before you feel anything, IIRC).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on April 08, 2008, 07:45:39 PM
Sounds really neat-o. I'd be interested in trying shrooms. I've never done any sort of psychedelic drug before, and I mean, did any of you do psychedelics when you were 17? I don't think that sort of thing is available here >_>
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 08, 2008, 08:13:13 PM
I would have. By the time I was 17, I probably knew more about psychedelics than anyone I knew (or know now, really).

Shrooms, I could probably get around here, but much else, and I honestly have no idea. I'd love to try LSD, but that's probably not going to happen for quite some time yet.

Oh, and another point about DMT: it's fairly expensive. This is about the only site I found with a price list, but I haven't checked erowid yet. It's always good to check a couple different places.
http://www.idmu.co.uk/tryptamines.htm
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 15, 2008, 10:24:26 PM
Anyone know of any repercussions of using sleeping pills at least twice a week? I use them every time I have school to make sure I get sleep, but wouldn't this screw with my sleep cycle.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on April 15, 2008, 10:51:33 PM
Your body will start to develop a resistance to them and you'll wind up needing a stronger dose to put you to sleep.

I'd just try to get used to sleeping normally.  Give yourself a sort of schedule and stick to that, even on the weekends.  You'll feel better and won't have to pop pills to be able to close your eyes.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on April 16, 2008, 12:07:46 AM
I found that if you do some kind of exercise during the day you won't have a problem falling asleep at night.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 16, 2008, 02:56:18 AM
Yeah, exercise always makes it easier to sleep.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 16, 2008, 09:32:48 AM
I'd just try to get used to sleeping normally.  Give yourself a sort of schedule and stick to that, even on the weekends.  You'll feel better and won't have to pop pills to be able to close your eyes.


Yeah, but the hard thing is I only have school twice a week, but I could easily take them only once a week and aim for less.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 16, 2008, 09:35:48 AM
Honestly, the way I deal with waking up early for school and such usually involves me staying up all night the day before, and going to bed when I normally would for school the next night. It's kinda hard on me, but it's better than taking sleeping pills. It certainly gets me adjusted really quickly.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 16, 2008, 02:23:35 PM
If it's just a Diphenydramamine HCl sleeping aid, there probably won't be any problems if you take it twice a week. It's the same active ingredient as Benedryl, which I take daily during the summer for allergies, and I never developed a dependency on it, or felt any negative after-effects.

Last night I took 420mg (lolol) of DXM, just for the lulz, I wanted to see if I could get to the point where I actually had full-on hallucinations. While I didn't get that far, I can say this: I've never experienced anything that strange in my entire life. I can assume it was a high second-plateau trip, because I was pretty freaking disconnected with my surroundings, but at the same time, I was able to keep up short conversations with people, without making them ridiculously suspicious, which was fairly awesome. But the weirdest thing- extreme time dilation. Seriously, I was waiting in my friend's room for him to finish showering with a couple people who were tripsitting me/watching me freak out, and it was only 15 minutes or so, but it honestly felt like he was gone for a couple hours. I don't really get how to convey it in words, but it was most definately one of the strangest nights I've had.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 16, 2008, 09:21:52 PM
Awesome. I've got money, I need to go buy a bottle of cough syrup, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 17, 2008, 01:08:26 AM
Honestly, the way I deal with waking up early for school and such usually involves me staying up all night the day before, and going to bed when I normally would for school the next night. It's kinda hard on me, but it's better than taking sleeping pills. It certainly gets me adjusted really quickly.

I'm not going to stay adjusted tho, even after having school all day today I can stay up to 1 without a problem. That and I love sleeping in and only have to wake up early twice a week means I've been doing it all year.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 17, 2008, 02:31:19 AM
Awesome. I've got money, I need to go buy a bottle of cough syrup, lol.

You're in Canada, right? There's some Contac pill they sell there that's 30mg of DXM HBr, and apparently is pretty freaking cheap. I'd pop 5-7 of those if it's your first time, you'll be crazy.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 17, 2008, 08:16:25 AM
Haha, I'll check it out.

I may just buy a bottle. I've wanted to see if I could chug a bottle of that stuff for a while now. I seem to be good at downing crap that is hard to drink a lot of at once (full glasses of hard liquor and such), so I may be able to down a bottle of robo.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 18, 2008, 05:30:35 AM
Well, make sure DXM HBr is the only active ingredient. Delysm will work too. The trip isn't as intense, but it lasts a lot longer. Like, 8 hours :s
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 18, 2008, 06:28:04 AM
I'm well aware of how to be safe. I knew about DXM long before this thread (or this incarnation of s.net, for that matter).

Also, another bit of info is that you should technically only use Robitussin DX, ideally. It's only active ingredient is DXM, and it also contains no coloring or sweetening that could make you sick in large quantities, like many other cough syrups do.

Also, found another one of those ridiculous anti-drug sites: http://www.dxmstories.com/robitussin_abuse.html

Go click See the Effects, lol.

I'll explain those a bit better:

1. Vomiting: This is a fairly common risk factor, really. However, the "vomiting blood" part they mention is ridiculous. They don't explain the "why" of this, they simply tell you you might get sick. If you've ever tried to down a whole bunch of cough syrup at once, you'll know that it's a hard thing to down. Of course, you'll feel sick, it's not a big deal. If you're puking blood, you probably have a serious problem outside of DXM abuse. I've never heard of puking blood associated with DXM use, though I guess some of the other ingredients in some of the cough syrups might do it.

2. Cardiac Arrest: Yeah, ok, that's basically a whole bunch of BS. You're probably more at rick of Cardiac Arrest when you ingest caffeine. More people have died of caffeine overdoses than DXM. Seriously, this one is just BS. Yeah, you might have raised heartate. And yeah, it could potentially be rather dangerous, if combined with a pre-existing condition.

3. Muscle Spasms: I've see little to no real evidence for this one in my searching. Actually, I've come across information that DXM may actually calm muscle spasms in the larynx1 and thanks to another forum discussing muscles spasms encountered on DXM, I found an article on pub med discussing how low doses of DXM can actually improve seizure control in some epileptics2. This is one of the stupider ones, since people experience muscle spasms doing nearly every drug out there. Quite honestly, this one is pretty harmless. Not only that, it doesn't seem to be all that common.

4. Delirium: Well, I'd certainly hope that you realize that you're going to experience delirium when using DXM. In fact, if you use DXM and don't know that, you are likely the stupidest person alive, and may likely deserve to die, if only to cleanse the global gene pool of your extreme stupidity. DXM is a drug that is best used in calm surroundings away from dangerous situations, and places you don't know. It's also a good idea to have a sitter. This is not a "side effect" or anything, this is the desired effect. It's got it's own risks, but you can minimize them greatly by actually using your brain before hand.

The best place for in depth info for DXM is probably this FAQ: http://www.dextroverse.org/faq/dxm_faq.html

1 http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00055549?recr=open&cond=%22Voice+Disorders%22&rank=5
2 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10702964?dopt=Abstract
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: jinxie on April 18, 2008, 03:35:19 PM
lol dan refuses to let me smoke like I used to. WHEN MY MOM DOES AND KNOWS HER SHIT.

poor poor pyroko.  he was very sheltered in life.  i see it more and more every day. :(
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 18, 2008, 03:37:57 PM
Yep, the DXM faq is a good read.

Anyone else besides me have any plans for this weekend? :V
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on April 21, 2008, 06:02:12 PM
I went to Hippie hill on 4/20 and had a grand ole time. when I was leaving I met these two guys who were dealing just about everything. After looking at his wares I decided to buy 2 grams of hash off of him. Imma having some fun
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 22, 2008, 09:53:51 PM
Vaporizers, topic over. >:V
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on April 23, 2008, 01:46:04 AM
that shit will FUCK YOU UP. but i herd its liek a different kind of high.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 23, 2008, 01:58:20 AM
It's a freaking awesome kind of high :V
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 23, 2008, 09:58:01 AM
Vaporizers, topic over. >:V

My friend made a make shift one of those with a light bulb and a pen. Got me pretty fucked up, but was a bitch to smoke out off.

Forgot my F, no wait, I was trying to be edgy.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on April 24, 2008, 08:47:22 PM
My friend made a make shit one of those with a light bulb and a pen. Got me pretty fucked up, but was a bitch to smoke out off.

Those things are ghetto, I made one and I refused to smoke out of it anymore.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 25, 2008, 02:52:46 AM
Haha, are you serious? How does that even work D:

I'm pretty sure a pipe is sufficient.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 25, 2008, 07:15:43 PM
Haha, are you serious? How does that even work D:

I'm pretty sure a pipe is sufficient.

He wanted to be fancy, also salt on the inside of a light bulb takes all of that white paint off. He's like a god damned Myguyver of smoking.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 25, 2008, 08:45:03 PM
Haha, yeah, it's amazing how inventive some potheads are. I mean, some of them figured out how to make a pipe out of a fucking ball of snow.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: vladgd on April 25, 2008, 08:56:47 PM
I mean, some of them figured out how to make a pipe out of a fucking ball of snow.

weed must be one hell of a drug
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 25, 2008, 08:59:43 PM
Haha, yeah, it's amazing how inventive some potheads are. I mean, some of them figured out how to make a pipe out of a fucking ball of snow.

Oh wow, with tin foil I'm assuming. Also my friend made a 3 chamber bong once, put water in 2 and ice in one, shit was insane.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 25, 2008, 09:01:46 PM
Oh wow, with tin foil I'm assuming. Also my friend made a 3 chamber bong once, put water in 2 and ice in one, shit was insane.

Nope, no tin foil. Not to my knowledge anyway. I heard about it a while ago, and I haven't found any websites that actually say anything about it any more.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 26, 2008, 07:08:26 AM
That's just ridiculous. Why would you do that. I mean, you're way more likely to be running around with a pipe, but not having any weed. What situation would put you out in the snow, with a pile of weed, and no pipe? :<
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 26, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
Someone like me who'd poor/lazy and lost their last pipe (well, my parents stole it, and my mom was probably using it for a while :/) and bought some weed. Albeit when I buy weed now (not that I have in a long time), I'll usually get someone who has some papes ready, and we'll just roll a joint. (or smoke out of their bong).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 27, 2008, 09:00:09 PM
So, uh, I took a hell of a lot of shrooms last night, and it was freaking ridiculous. I went from probably being the happiest I've ever been, to feeling about as terrible as I can remember, and back to really freaking awesome. And I hallucinated. A lot o_O.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 27, 2008, 10:06:08 PM
Sounds good, and bad.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 27, 2008, 11:10:12 PM
I seriously need to get some shrooms
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 28, 2008, 12:25:49 AM
So I got really drunk on Friday. I puked a lot and ended up passing out and forgetting most of the night. I should've stuck with 3 tequila shots, but I decided to take 2 more. I'm such a lightweight.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 28, 2008, 12:54:33 AM
Wow, damn, that IS lightweight, lol.

I don't think 5 shots could put me down, and I'm pretty lightweight too.

My GF and I can manage a mickey between us and still be barely drunk.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 28, 2008, 04:52:40 AM
I seriously need to get some shrooms

It's an experience, to be sure.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 28, 2008, 04:43:46 PM
So I got really drunk on Friday. I puked a lot and ended up passing out and forgetting most of the night. I should've stuck with 3 tequila shots, but I decided to take 2 more. I'm such a lightweight.

Oh, you're a cheap date.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on April 28, 2008, 08:22:54 PM
yall need to l2drink moar. A 40 of mickeys gets me pretty drunk, but Ill still be down for more after.

I now smoke at least 2 times a day now. is dis good or bad?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 28, 2008, 11:20:28 PM
Well, I drink when I can. I haven't done drugs aside from drinking in a couple years because I'm too lazy to go talk to my old contact and get some.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 29, 2008, 05:41:41 AM
So, after analyzing my behavior during the 3 encounters with alcohol that I've had, I've realized that I may become an alcoholic. There aren't many things that can make a person feel as shitty as I do right now.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: vladgd on April 29, 2008, 06:06:25 AM
drinking to numb the pain to me, sounds similar to "yea bro, im just going to cut myself to stop the bleeding" or "yes nigga im drinking salt to quench my thirst"

0 + 0 =/= 1

drink because its fun (only said this to prove my point)

cut yourself because it gets you off

but don't do that shit because you are sad

and im sure bob will say something informative
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 29, 2008, 01:05:00 PM
Well, there's been a lot of evidence suggesting that if you have any history in your family of alcoholism, then you are much more at risk. My family does, so I have to be careful. There was a time after my 19th birthday where I was getting drunk every weekend for I think 4 or 5 weeks straight. Since then, I've stopped drinking so much, but I can easily see how I could become addicted. I have to watch myself and make sure I don't do stuff like bring home a 24 pack of beer and start drinking it in the basement by myself (not that I can really afford to do that, but if I started, I'd find some way to get the money).

I drink because A) it's fun to get sloshed with friends, B) I like the feeling of being drunk, and C) I like drinking (as in drinking alcoholic beverages). However, just because I like drinking alcohol doesn't mean that I'm going to let that make me drink all the time. sure, if I had problems that were depressing me, I'd have the urge to drink it away too. But realizing that that is your problem is the first step towards not doing it. Whenever I'm feeling a little bit sad, I automatically think "I wish I had some booze". But I don't act on it. Because if I did, it would end badly.

Oh, and there's also been a lot of study linking your culture and the ideas about alcohol that you were raised with, with how you act when drunk. If you are raised with the belief that alcohol relaxes you, and stuff (like in south africa) then you will likely feel relaxed, and generally just be calm. However, if you grow up with the idea that alcohol is an excuse to go wild, you will be fairly rowdy and loud when drunk. Because I smoked weed before getting drunk, and because I was raised in an alcohol-free house, I grew up not really knowing what to expect. I think some of my idea of weed has carried over to make me generally fairly calm when drunk. I more ready to sing along with music I know, and small things like that (I'll talk more freely about some things) but no matter how drunk I get, I still manage to stay coherent and such. (even when I'm drunk enough to forget the night).

Anyway, as we've said, drinking to get rid of the pain is a VERY bad thing. It will lead you to alcoholism really quickly. Drink with your friends, drink to have a good time, not to ignore the bad times.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 29, 2008, 02:06:37 PM
Oh, and there's also been a lot of study linking your culture and the ideas about alcohol that you were raised with, with how you act when drunk. If you are raised with the belief that alcohol relaxes you, and stuff (like in south africa) then you will likely feel relaxed, and generally just be calm. However, if you grow up with the idea that alcohol is an excuse to go wild, you will be fairly rowdy and loud when drunk

I wouldn't doubt this. In fact I've known a few girls who won't even drink that much and be a little too rowdy. Also I played some beer pong last night and got about every cup but one in my secound game (I was on a team with my friend).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on April 29, 2008, 04:33:15 PM
I get drunk every now and again with my best bro because it's fun to be drunk [the feeling of spinning around you], it's fun to do it with friends, and as long as its a controlled environment, I'll just drink till I pass out and sleep. [note: not BLACK out as I've heard some people.] Every time I can still remember a large part of what happened. 

The majority of what we drink is mostly captain morgan spiced rum and coke/sprite etc, and jager bombs.  Cheap, and easy, fast to get you there.

Also games are fucking FUN when you're drunk.

edit: 250 get mofuggas, bout time I was a senior member
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 29, 2008, 05:04:30 PM
Well, there's been a lot of evidence suggesting that if you have any history in your family of alcoholism, then you are much more at risk.

My mom drinks fairly often, and she's started hiding wine and lying about it.

I've pretty much decided to steer clear of alcohol at all costs now, because I don't trust myself around the stuff.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 29, 2008, 06:20:11 PM
I've pretty much decided to steer clear of alcohol at all costs now, because I don't trust myself around the stuff.

I would do the same.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 30, 2008, 01:41:12 AM
Last night I took 450mg of DXM and smoked a ridiculous amount of weed. I woke up 12 hours later and was still high, and I almost can't even remember what happened. I also got the best closed-eye visuals ever, I could close my eyes and it would be like I lapsed temporarily out of reality, and was able to just watch stuff play out of the back of my eyelids. Pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 30, 2008, 02:21:45 AM
Now THAT is the sort of trip I'm looking for.

Also, waking up half-drunk is not fun, lol. (sorta semi-related. And no, this hasn't happened to me recently, but I can assure you it is not fun.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 01, 2008, 04:11:35 AM
True that. I got pretty wasted one night with my bud, we passed out around 3 or 4, and I woke up to piss at around 8, and told my friend in a slurred tone "SEAN! I'm STILL drunk! What the fuck!"

lulz
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 01, 2008, 08:20:40 AM
I just went to my friend's 19th last night. I'm fucking staying away from hard liquor until I can drink some without getting sick. I feel like shit now, and the only reason I'm up is because my dad accidentally woke me up getting to work.It's not as bad as some nights were, if you go by what I forgot (I only forgot how I got home, which is a bad thing, but I've forgotten much more other nights).

I've got my fucking G2 test today :/ I'm hung over really bad too...
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on May 01, 2008, 12:05:34 PM
So Kate told me what I forgot about the night when I had all of the tequila.

...

Now I'm really going to avoid alcohol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 01, 2008, 01:26:33 PM
Also, waking up half-drunk is not fun, lol. (sorta semi-related. And no, this hasn't happened to me recently, but I can assure you it is not fun.)

I've done that before. Funny I remember waking up and hardly being able to walk thinking "Nah, I can't still be drunk".
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on May 01, 2008, 10:59:39 PM
Also, waking up half-drunk is not fun, lol. (sorta semi-related. And no, this hasn't happened to me recently, but I can assure you it is not fun.)

One time I ate a brownie at like 4 A.M in the morning after smoking a retarded amount of weed already. I passed out like 20 minutes after eating it, woke up at 8 the next morning high as a fuggen kite.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on May 02, 2008, 01:23:54 AM
and was able to just watch stuff play out of the back of my eyelids. Pretty sweet.


I don't do any drugs and I'm able to do that on a regular basis.  o_O
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on May 02, 2008, 02:12:32 AM


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 02, 2008, 02:24:13 AM
Heard about it a while ago. I honestly have to wonder why someone so fucking stupid is a cop. Seriously. First, if you;'re a cop, why would you decide to try the pot that you confiscated? Second, why on earth would you think you are ODing on pot. How many cops actually KNOW something about weed? Seriously, if a cop came up to me and tried to arrest me for having weed or something, and knew less about weed than I would, I'd turn to him and tell him to go find a cop who actually knows what they're talking about, and isn't being brainwashed by the government, then let him arrest me.

That's just fucking pathetic. I seriously hope that guy was fired.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on May 02, 2008, 03:16:23 AM
Well, he was "let to resign", which is probably means, "quit or you're fired." And yeah, I'd rather have a cop that knew the truth. But then again, most do. They are out on the streets, they know how people are when they're high. I would say you'd be hard-pressed to find a cop that is absolutely clueless on the realities of  weed.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 02, 2008, 03:28:17 AM
Yeah, they might be able to spot a person who's high, but how many REALLY know something about weed? How many can see through some of the government propaganda bullshit that gets published? How many of them have any idea what being high is actually like? I mean, when you see someone who's high, you're seeing their actions from a sober perspective. How many cops actually understand how a stoned person thinks?

I hate all the misinformation and ignorance associated with drugs. Too few people truly understand much about drugs, and too many are perfectly willing to let the government lie to them.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on May 02, 2008, 03:35:41 AM
Idk about anywhere else so well, but cops over here have a good understanding of 'highness'. Most don't care if you're out in public high, so long as you're not being dumb.

tldr for below: i got drunk in public and cops didnt care.

I got drunk last saturday with my brother at his university, U. of Cali., Berkeley. We left the party with his girlfriend and 3 others and there were cops parked on the other side of the street across from the pizza place. We said, "do you care if we cross?", because we had obviously wanted to j-walk, and it was 2:30 am so there was no traffic out. The cops knew all of us were fucking sloshed off our asses and so they just said, "Everyone else is doing it." I found that pretty cool, because they were acknowledging that it was wrong, but not technically allowing it. hehe. (duh, but I wanted to say it anyway. Fuck off) Anyway, yeah, cops here tend to be fairly liberal and don't give a shit unless you're directly hurting someone else or some thing. (The way it's supposed to be)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on May 02, 2008, 12:06:55 PM
Haha, ODing on weed. Wow. I like how everyone in the newsroom was laughing as well.
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Post by: jinxie on May 02, 2008, 12:21:12 PM
Yeah, they might be able to spot a person who's high, but how many REALLY know something about weed? How many can see through some of the government propaganda bullshit that gets published? How many of them have any idea what being high is actually like? I mean, when you see someone who's high, you're seeing their actions from a sober perspective. How many cops actually understand how a stoned person thinks?

I hate all the misinformation and ignorance associated with drugs. Too few people truly understand much about drugs, and too many are perfectly willing to let the government lie to them.

can you please tell this to pyroko rofl
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 02, 2008, 02:05:53 PM
Generally, most people won't want to believe that the government is lying.. That makes it a bit hard to get people to understand. Even though I've done quite a bit of research on weed, and other drugs, I still probably couldn't convince someone unless they were open minded to looking at things the other way.

But if you want to convince him, I'd suggest trying to get him to look up information himself, using sites like Erowid.org. That site is technically "pro-drug", but most of it's information is very accurate, and that site is designed for educating people about drugs, not simply promoting drug use with a bunch of BS like some sites do. It gives you information on the risks, dosages, effects, and all sorts of information about a drug. It even has pharmacological information on many of the well known drugs. Not that pyroko would likely understand much of it, but that stuff is excellent for showing people what really goes on when you use a drug, and why it's not as dangerous as the government says. I only understand as much of that stuff as I do by using wikipedia on some stuff and basically looking up everything I don't understand when I read an article. It's a LOT of info, but I certainly have learned a lot about how some things work.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: jinxie on May 02, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
thanks :3

yeah, I think it's really more of he lived a sheltered life, yanno?  because hell, my mom has done it since she was 28 years old and she's fine. D: as well as my aunt.  I did it for a year or so before my boyfriend before pyroko forbid me to do it.  Damn why I let dese peopels tell  me what to do ;-;

Mom says she'll let me have some of hers whenever I'd like and would smoke with me.  I just really don't understand why pyroko is so gung ho about hating it, he's never tried it and never known anyone who has done so.

-O-
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 02, 2008, 02:18:36 PM
Generally, most people won't want to believe that the government is lying.. That makes it a bit hard to get people to understand. Even though I've done quite a bit of research on weed, and other drugs, I still probably couldn't convince someone unless they were open minded to looking at things the other way.

Because the government always does what's best for it's people, amirite? Also yeah, that cop is a moron, GODDAMN.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on May 02, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
Because the government always does what's best for it's people, amirite? Also yeah, that cop is a moron, GODDAMN.

ALWAYS. It's not like the executive branch of the United States issued an illegal war, or allowed for wiretapping without warrants. Oh no, our precious America would never do that.

Also, deja vu. wow.

Anyway, I reckon the less retarded cops out there the better. Hell, these fucks can ruin your life pretty easily, and if there's one more retard that is weeded out, the better.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 02, 2008, 02:54:27 PM
yeah, I think it's really more of he lived a sheltered life, yanno?

Yeah. My parents tried to shelter me from stuff like that and alcohol. My mom smokes weed too, and used to have a drinking problem too. Alcoholism runs in my family. Anyway, I'm the sort of person who isn't just going to take someone's word on something like that, I tend to want to really know how things are, because I know damn well that half of what the government says is absolute bullshit.

But some people are content to live sheltered like that.

Hopefully you can get him to at least read up on it. And be sure to personally tell him how often some of the listed effects actually happen. Sometimes websites don't mention how rare, or how little effect some of those things really have. I mean, DXM raises your blood pressure and heartrate, but unless you've already got a pre-existing condition, that likely won't even be noticeable. Hell, running raises your heartrate, and may well raise your blood pressure too, but that's not dangerous, is it?

Some people get caught up in how many effects and risks there are with that, but few of them realize that a great portion of the minor issues that are risks also happen to be possible side effects of normal drugs. Acetaminophen can cause liver damage if taken enough, antibiotics hurt your body, and can make your immune system much weaker, among other things. Every single drug has possible side effects, but the second they start talking about illegal drugs, all of a sudden simple things like it making you sweat more, or maybe causing ataxia (basically, reduced motor function, drunken stumbling, etc.) or slowing your reaction time down is some horrible evil thing that might get you killed. Ever notice that most drugs say don't mix with alcohol? That can be dangerous. They also say not to use a motor vehicle. Hmm, I think you can still get charged with impaired driving for driving when using a drug that can make you drowsy/impaired, even if you have a legal prescription...

There are just as many risks with normal drugs as there are with illegal drugs. (well, to an extent, most medical drugs aren't as hard on your body as crystal meth or heroin is...) As long as you take the necessary precautions and make sure you know what the possible effects are, you can make taking drugs much safer, as well as more enjoyable.

Oh, and as a little aside: The government paints extasy/MDMA as being this evil drug that kills lots of people and is the raver's favourite drug. What they fail to mention is that unless you're one of a very small group of people, you simply cannot die because of extasy. In a city where there are 19,000 deaths a year, 2, yes, 2 of those deaths were directly from MDMA (or possibly some other contaminant in an extasy tablet). Those 2 deaths were severe allergic reactions to something in the tablet. The other deaths in that city that are tied to extasy are only partially related to it, and wuold never have happened if the government actually taught people about the drug. Those deaths were either from people getting scared and drinking so much water that they got water poisoning and died, or from people who ended up dieing of heat stroke because they weren't careful and didn't drink enough water. I mean, if you're dancing all night, and you normally would be sweating like mad, and getting tired, wouldn't you think that maybe at some point, despite feeling fine, you should maybe drink a bit of water to cool off and stuff? Those people died because they didn't know that MDMA causes your body to be unable to properly regulate it's temperature, so they weren't sweating much, and their body didn't feel tired (another bit of an effect from the MDMA) so they simply kept dancing in a crowded, hot environment exerting themselves much more than they normally would, and eventually their body just overheated.

Those are both the most common ways people die while on MDMA, but if the government would simply educate people properly, instead of spreading misinformation and ignorance by causing the discussion of drugs like MDMA taboo, we'd have WAY fewer deaths attributed to that drug. THAT is why I hate the government, and think that we need to change the government's way of dealing with drugs radically. They are causing more deaths, because of their scare tactics, than are necessary.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 06, 2008, 05:56:08 PM
So me and my mates are making a beer pong table. We've made a pattern with bottle caps, added 561 (our area code, shits gangster), RPK (Rape Pillage Kill) and a drinking pac man all made from beer top caps. Also we're using this finish that they have for bars so the caps wll be covered and it should look pretty nice.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 06, 2008, 08:17:05 PM
pix plox!
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Post by: annon on May 06, 2008, 10:17:48 PM
So I finally heard the whole story about the result of 5 tequila shots. Apparently I went on a rant about religion and included the words "FUCK GENESIS" among other things. I also yelled "I'M NOT DRUNK. IF I WAS DRUNK, COULD I DO THIS?" and then went into some complex physics/mathematics lecture/rant that included calculations and demonstrations that, according to Joey, "sounded correct." He said I was yelling about the theoretical event horizon of the Earth and some other stuff. It all sounds sounds pretty funny, and I really wish I remembered all that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 07, 2008, 02:18:30 AM
I also yelled "I'M NOT DRUNK. IF I WAS DRUNK, COULD I DO THIS?" and then went into some complex physics/mathematics lecture/rant that included calculations and demonstrations that, according to Joey, "sounded correct." He said I was yelling about the theoretical event horizon of the Earth and some other stuff. It all sounds sounds pretty funny, and I really wish I remembered all that.

Heh, that's not so bad. My friend went to a party last night, started drinking hard liquor and vomited in a closet (thought it was a bathroom, drunk fuck) then 2 other places, fell and broke a vase, then he punched another friend who was trying to take his keys (he's a BIG guy, he used to squat 500 pounds). So he definitly felt bad about that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 07, 2008, 07:42:56 AM
Ouch, yeah, I'm never that bad when I drink and get sick. I don't usually make it to a bathroom, but it's either somewhere where it can easily be cleaned (outside/garage floor) or someone manages to get me a bucket.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 11, 2008, 04:58:47 AM
I am buzzed quite deeply right now.

Note: Vodka [even cheap vodka] and coke/pepsi is very nice. I compare it to Morgan's spiced rum and coke/pepsi/sprite. In 3 glasses I was buzzed, and by the 4th, I was past the line of 'buzzed' and went to being drunk. Also note the 4th glass was pretty heavy and probably more like 2/5 vodka than 1/5.

Sprite and cpt. morgans spiced rum tastes like cream soda.
Me and my buddy call coke/pepsi + rum a Vanilla Coke, and as said above, the sprite and rum a Cream Soda. [they do taste like that, if the rum isn't too heavy].

As for the vodka and pepsi.. It doesn't really taste like anything than what it is so I'll just stick with Vodka and Pepsi as my name for it haha.  Gets you buzzed in a quickness though.

Have a good night everybody
I'm gonna start eating some stuff to come down from this so I can sleep haha
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on May 11, 2008, 07:47:24 AM
I applaud you on coherent thoughts despite a lack of sobriety. Cheers, cheers! *applause*
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 11, 2008, 08:06:03 AM
I was gonna post last night, but there were too many of us hanging out at the computer, and I didn't feel like making them wait and watch me post here. I drank 6 Beers (my GF also drank 6, we had a 12 pack), walked one of my friends and my GF home, walked back, and went to bed. I've still got a 40 of beer left (that's a 1.8  L bottle).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 11, 2008, 11:55:07 AM
beer makes me piss


:D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 11, 2008, 01:30:13 PM
I would assume that unless you have a superhumanly large bladder, beer will always make you piss...
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on May 12, 2008, 01:34:00 AM
I would assume that unless you have a superhumanly large bladder, beer will always make you piss...


Beer farts.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on May 12, 2008, 10:07:07 PM
My girlfriend is dying to try pot, for some reason. I suppose I'll try it with her, shouldn't be too traumatic.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on May 12, 2008, 10:33:58 PM
My girlfriend is dying to try pot, for some reason. I suppose I'll try it with her, shouldn't be too traumatic.

It's actually quite fun. (Hence, why people do it)

That's the funny thing about alcohol and drugs. People often think, why do people do drugs? BECAUSE THEY FUCKING WORK. AND THEY MAKE YOU FEEL FUCKING GREAT. lmao. I think george carlin said that. (without my own twist)

I'd like to toke with my g/f sometime, lulz would probably ensue.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 13, 2008, 12:15:32 AM
My girlfriend is dying to try pot, for some reason. I suppose I'll try it with her, shouldn't be too traumatic.

I normally don't advocate the use of drugs, but do it. It might make you paranoid, so just try and shrug that off, if you can relax you'll have a grand time.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 13, 2008, 07:42:05 AM
I have to agree, just make sure you're in a nice setting, something familiar and stuff. Smoking up in someplace you don't know well, or are uncomfortable in can be bad. Oh, and if you get a little paranoid, just tell yourself it's the pot, and nothing will happen, and just ignore it. I've only really had slight paranoia from it, one time, when I was walking home. To me, the houses looked kinda evil, like they were watching me. But I shrugged it off, laughed, realizing it was the pot, and actually found it rather funny as I was walking.

Aside from that, make sure there's some food you can eat, if you get the munchies, it's never a good idea to try to order food from someplace when you're stoned, lol. Plus, eating is fucking amazing when you're stoned.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on May 13, 2008, 06:26:47 PM
420 everyday get

smoking is a wonderful thing any everyone should smoke pot at least once in their life.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 13, 2008, 11:29:17 PM
I would have to agree. It pisses me off to no end how some people can attack drugs without having firsthand experience with any. I mean, I find being drunk worse than being stoned, by quite a bit. I drink because it's legal, and it's something more people can do, so I can enjoy myself with a larger group of people. Sure, being drunk is somewhat fun, but I much prefer being stoned. Most people who are opposed to marijuana know next to nothing about marijuana, and that is what truly pisses me off about the opposition against it. So many people demonize marijuana as some evil drug that takes over people's lives, destroys them from the inside out, makes them into gang members, makes the irresponsible, and causes violence. But they don't realize that a) marijuana is not physically addictive, and people who get addicted to it have an addictive personality, and so would be at risk of alcoholism as well, b) most people who's loves are bad because they only care about getting stoned would likely not amount to much anyway, and if it would, they are likely the sort of person who could very easily have been controlled by any other thing, like alcohol, or some excuse to become lazy and slack off, c) gangs and violence are only connected to marijuana because it is illegal, and is forced into the underground system as a way that they can fund themselves, and legalization would take a lot of power away from these groups, lowering the amount of violence associated with marijuana by a very large amount, d) most people who do marijuana now (the stoners who get all the attention anyway) are irresponsible before they get into weed, which is why they're into weed in the first place.

Nearly every problem associated with marijuana is in fact caused in some way by the illegal nature of the drug, or by the misinformation and fear mongering of the government.

That goes for many drugs as well.

Honestly, I believe that before you can make a decision on a matter such as the legality of a drug, you must understand what the drug really is. If you were to compare alcohol to marijuana in a chemical against chemical evaluation, alcohol is quite a bit more toxic, and quite a bit less medically useful than marijuana, and yet, it is legal. Why? The government made an attempt to make it illegal before.. what happened? Exactly the same thing that has happened to marijuana: crooks got involved with it and made a LOT of money, and it didn't solve a thing for the government. Sure, the prohibition was started for good reasons: alcoholism was rampant, and was a very big problem in society, but the prohibition did nothing to stop it. It simply gave away the government's share of tax money, as well as their control over it's sale, to a bunch of crooks. It solved nothing, and neither is this "war on drugs" that is failing so badly.

The biggest reason that marijuana won't be legal any time soon is that very few people really understand it. I'm not just talking about it as a drug, but the plant itself. Hemp is an EXTREMELY versatile plant, in reality. Food, clothing, materials, and MANY other things can be manufactured with hemp products. Alternative vegetable oils, clothing that is much more durable than even denim jeans, food products made from the seeds... The list goes on and on. And all this is denied, simply because the government doesn't understand how safe marijuana is as a recreational drug.

Many people are absolutely fine with only smoking weed. Lots of people have said to me that they would never touch anything but weed, because they have heard some scary shit about the other drugs, or they really understand them (heroin, crystal meth, etc. are absolutely TERRIBLE for your health). But does the government understand that? No. Many people are very responsible when they smoke weed, i know quite a few people who are academic, smart, responsible, and also happen to smoke weed. Bud those are the people you never hear about. You never hear about affluent children smoking weed and having fun like that, and being responsible. It's only the bad that ever comes out. You never hear about someone who smokes weed, takes a test at school high and does great, because they were calm, and didn't get nervous. You only hear about the stoners who get caught smoking a joint right outside the principals office and mouth off at the teachers because they're a bunch of jackasses, stoned or sober.

This shit REALLY pisses me off.



Oh, and sorry bout the rant.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: jinxie on May 15, 2008, 10:50:39 AM
half the time I honestly can't tell when my mom is high or not. XD

i miss smoking with her.  thanks dan >_>

I think I'm just going to do it anyway.  I'm waiting to see if they're gonna piss test me at work first though before i do it (i'm temp right now but they're signing me on at the end of the month).

WE'LL SEEEEEEEE :D

and Bobbias - i agree 10000000000000000000000000% with what you just posted.  Dan LOVES to drink and shit.  I feel like he is a bit of a hypocrite half the time anyways.  My mom and I went on a 4 hr road trip this last weekend and we had a good 30 min conversation about why weed is illegal but alcohol isnt.  Hell, when I used to smoke I would be MORE CAREFUL when I drove. XD 
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on May 15, 2008, 11:16:16 AM
Dan LOVES to drink and shit.  I feel like he is a bit of a hypocrite half the time anyways.

Bear in mind, though, that drinking isn't illegal and smoking pot is.

Also, keep in mind that some people just don't like the idea of smoking.  I don't mind smokers but I, personally, wouldn't smoke.  I don't like the idea of inhaling smoke, therefore I won't do it.

And finally, can you really trust your local pot dealer?  Granted, I don't have any personal experience with that, but I guess one of my old acquaintances (who actually used to post here in the s.net 2.0 days) tried pot only to find that it was laced with something else.  He didn't have a very good time, from what I understand.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 15, 2008, 11:28:55 AM
If you know the person personally, then you can trust them (in my case, the guy I go to has been my friend since grade 3.)

Most weed dealers won't bother with lacing their weed because it goes against the idea of making money. Lacing it costs more money (to get whatever it was laced with) as well as makes people not want to go back to them. As long as you're not just buying it off some guy on the street, you're likely going to get weed without other shit.

Of course, you'd better either A) know by sight, how much weed you're getting, or B) have a little digital scale with you, because lots of people like to rip you off.


I would NEVER suggest driving stoned. While you are conscious of being stoned, and are more cautious, your reaction times are still impaired. Just because you can tell how stoned you are, and will drive more carefully, doesn't mean that you are more at rick for an accident if something happens that requires quick response. (like some asshole coming flying through a red or something just as you get to the intersection).

And spec, a lot of the people opposed to smoking things don't realize the difference between smoking a cigarette vs smoking weed. Cigarettes have approximately 4000 chemical compounds that shouldn't be there created from burning the tobacco + other shit that are put into them, by comparison, weed doesn't have NEARLY as many compounds. Yes, there is still tar, and a couple other chemicals that might not be all that good to you, but you also forget how much smokers inhale during a day compared to people who smoke pot. You never smoke as much pot as you would tobacco. Sure, it's still going to turn your lungs black, but not NEARLY as quickly. Plus, it's not NEARLY as carcinogenic as smoking cigarettes.

And if smoke is such an issue, they DO have vaporizers. Not to mention THC is lipid soluble, so things like butter can absorb it, and you can cook with it.

Alcohol does NOT deserve to be legal, in comparison with marijuana. I have not heard one single argument that would support alcohol over marijuana, and most of the arguments against marijuana can be said against alcohol as well, so in my opinion, this is one of the largest cases of widespread government hypocrisy ever.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on May 15, 2008, 05:54:59 PM
I've been somewhat interesting in trying marijuana for the past year or so.  Haven't actively tried to get my paws on it though.  Mostly 'cause I tend to be a rather lawful citizen.

I've had several people tell me that I would act "normal" if I smoked weed though.

Noooot quite sure how to take that.   :P
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on May 15, 2008, 07:03:11 PM
I guess it depends on what their definition of "normal" is: socially acceptable or business as usual. :P
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on May 15, 2008, 08:40:07 PM
Well, I apparently don't act "normal" to most people.


I however, don't believe in normal.   :o
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 16, 2008, 12:18:51 PM
Well, some people get pretty weird when they're stoned. Some of us, though, are completely normal, but we still enjoy being stoned. When I'm stoned, I'm a lot (A LOT) more calm, and shit. I can sit there and be silent, being completely absorbed in something much easier than I could sober. Example: When I go to my friend's place (also happens to be my source), we usually play Soul Calibur 2 stoned. I can play that game for an hour or more straight without barely saying anything. Not to mention I could care less if I win or loose, which is much different than when I'm sober (I hate losing).

Of course, it's not the same as being drunk. When you're drunk, how you act depends mostly on your perception of alcohol, and how people should act when drunk. If someone grows up thinking of alcohol as a big party thing, and going nuts and shit, they're going to more or less act that way every time they get drunk, but in places where the general view of alcohol is a way to relax, people tend to get more relaxed and less active. It's all about your mental views on it.

Being stoned is different, in that you know you're stoned, and you have a better idea of how stoned you are. You can think clearer when you're stoned.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: jinxie on May 16, 2008, 01:13:32 PM
after a heated IM argument with Dan about stuff, he waahhh waaahhhhed to my mom (he does this a lot lol, it's almost like she's HIS mom), but since she smokes he wanted to hear her side of things.  she's going to talk to him about the pros and cons of it vs alcohol, stuff like that.  She called me last night and was like "yeah dan texted me.  he needs to chill the fuck out". I rofl'd.  She should be coming over to talk to us tonight.  I hope things work out.

Speaking of alcohol I'm going "clubbing" for like the second time ever ever.  With 2 girls and dan.  WAT DO I WEAR TO DIS PLACES? rofl.  Dan's designated.  YAEY. Time for overpriced mixed fruity drinks and horrible loud rap music. :awesome:
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 16, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
after a heated IM argument with Dan about stuff, he waahhh waaahhhhed to my mom (he does this a lot lol, it's almost like she's HIS mom), but since she smokes he wanted to hear her side of things.  she's going to talk to him about the pros and cons of it vs alcohol, stuff like that.  She called me last night and was like "yeah dan texted me.  he needs to chill the fuck out". I rofl'd.  She should be coming over to talk to us tonight.  I hope things work out.

Speaking of alcohol I'm going "clubbing" for like the second time ever ever.  With 2 girls and dan.  WAT DO I WEAR TO DIS PLACES? rofl.  Dan's designated.  YAEY. Time for overpriced mixed fruity drinks and horrible loud rap music. :awesome:

Awesome.

Also, eww, go to a better club....
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: jinxie on May 16, 2008, 06:29:22 PM
yeah i might not actually go, i heard through the grapevine that cover charge alone is $25.  so yeah..... no. lol

Oh well.  I'll drink at home if i feel like. :3
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 16, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
Heh, nice. That's a ridiculous cover charge.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 16, 2008, 08:07:00 PM
Heh clubbing, my friends tried dragging me to that once. We ended up not going.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: jinxie on May 19, 2008, 12:57:31 PM
it turned out to only be 5 bux. lol

and it was fun but Dan was a damn prude and didnt want to dance (aka be dumbasses) with me and my friends so when some other guy asked to dance with me (aka GRINDIN, as that's all you fucking do to rap rofl) dan was like HAET.. but if he wasnt such a nub and would have danced with me it wouldnt have happened. D:

So's we're probably not going back to that club again.  we found somewhere else that plays more than just rap musics and its 21+ so that'll be a lot better.  Dan said he would dance just not to that. 

oh and NOM BLUE HAWAIIANSSSSSSSsssssssss arg.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 19, 2008, 07:14:16 PM
That may just be a lie to save face and make himself look like less of an ass.

Albeit I completely understand where he's coming from. I've never really danced in my life, and I'd certainly never dance to fucking rap. And if my GF "danced" with some other guy at something like that because I wouldn't, I'd be more than just HAET.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on May 19, 2008, 09:12:16 PM
Oh also for reference, weed and DXM is decidedly the best way to make yourself far too high to even function properly that I know of.

Long story short, this weekend, I smoked a joint and took 400mg of DXM with a friend (each), and then was about two hours later, convinced to smoke another three bowls by the same guy. About all I was able to do was sit, listen to kid606, and hallucinate the fuck out of everything. It was pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 19, 2008, 09:31:06 PM
Awesome, I'm gonna get some weed whenever the fuck I get payed (the fucking morons in there lost the info I gave them last time, and I can't get payed till they get it). I may get some robo to go with it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: jinxie on May 20, 2008, 11:37:01 AM
I'm too lazy to go back into the older pages of this thread so QUESTION:
how is salvia?

my mom said when she did it she freaked out and hid behind the freezer once. XD

also does it show on drug tests?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 20, 2008, 08:43:06 PM
Long story short, this weekend, I smoked a joint and took 400mg of DXM with a friend (each), and then was about two hours later, convinced to smoke another three bowls by the same guy. About all I was able to do was sit, listen to kid606, and hallucinate the fuck out of everything. It was pretty damn awesome.

Wait, you went OUT and did this? Christ man.

I'm too lazy to go back into the older pages of this thread so QUESTION:
how is salvia?

Strong stuff that will make you hallucinate about instantly. It only lasts about 15 minuets, but those will be the longest minuets in your whole life.

Also yes, I don't dance.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 21, 2008, 02:58:09 AM
my mom said when she did it she freaked out and hid behind the freezer once. XD

also does it show on drug tests?

First off, salvia is a powerful hallucinogen. At the weakest level, you simply get a head rush, and possibly other small bits (I've experienced that), at higher levels, you get things like seeing geometric patterns, and odd feelings. My brother did it once and said that one of the major things he felt was that gravity had shifted, and he was being pulled in a different direction. He also said eh felt like there was some sort of pattern to the world, and he had to align himself with it. He also said that he felt like there was some sort of portal to another plane of existence at one place, and that the gravity was pulling him towards it. At the highest level, you get a full on complete TRIP, with intelligent hallucinations, not simply colors, patterns and such.

As to the drug test thing: nope. http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=51

Drug tests are designed to screen out illegal drugs, and you could likely sue the company for discrimination if they DID use salvia as an excuse to fire you/not hire you.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on May 21, 2008, 09:44:44 PM
Yeah, you'll trip the fuck out, but at the same time, it really doesn't work for everyone. Some people will be completely screwed up after a single hit, but it took me two bowls in the space of about 3 minutes to even begin to hallucinate, and this was with 20x extract. It's also strange because there's no sense of euphoria about it, it's just sheer hallucinations. This can be good or bad.

Also was convinced to try to snort Adderall. Hilarity resulted, as well as no sleep for 36 hours.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 21, 2008, 11:40:33 PM
Fuck, I need more friends into that sort of shit.

When I tried Salvia all I got was a quick headrush, but that was from smoking one bowl in a pipe of 5x extract.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on May 27, 2008, 11:40:47 PM
I've got to try salvia sometime. I also really wanna give DMT a shot. My friend was actually considering trying to synthesize it himself.

So I've got another shroom trip story to tell. It's got a dramatic climax, too :O

About three or four months ago, I was over at my friend's house (the one who I just mentioned was gonna make DMT) and he lives with a few other roommates. Jon (my friend) was trying to stay away from hallucinatory drugs for a while at the time, so he didn't partake, but two of his roommates (Jesse and his girlfriend Amy, who I'm kind of good friends with as well) each took a half-eighth, while I took a whole eighth, which was pretty much just one giant cap of, I think a stuntzii. Jon smoked some bowls, though, so he didn't feel too left out.

WORD OF THE WISE: Do not trip with someone who is not going to as well. Regardless of how well you think you can handle it, it's going to be at least a little bit awkward.

Okay back to the story...

So there were four of us, and it was about noon when we took them, so as we were coming up, we took a walk out in the foresty area outside my friends' house. Well it was kinda weird because it was a sunny day and there were a few people out walking their dogs. I think I might have come up faster than my friends because I was feeling it within ten minutes, and one of the dogs, a black terrier I think, made eye contact with me, and I felt some weird connection with it. I won't even try to describe it, but I can say it was something you can only experience on shrooms, heh.

Well as the other two people started to feel it, being outside in a town inhabited by snobby, rich white people, and a police force who have nothing better to do than stop any random person on the sidewalk seemed like kind of a bad idea, so we went back inside. Well for most of the first couple hours, we played CoD 4, which was WAY intense and awesome. It seriously felt like you were there. Like... seriously.

This trip was the first I've had full-on hallucinations. There was this fake plant on a table behind a couch, that was about three feet tall, and had kind of large wide leaves. One time when I looked at it, the leaves where slowly curling and waving around, and each leaf was smoothly alternating different colors. It was as clear as day and totally crazy. Also, the view out the window was into the forest we wandered through, and all the tree branches overlapping each other formed this insane, shifting, branch fractal (the only way I can think to describe it). There was this poster on the wall that had kind of a black border of flame-ish designs, and as I looked at it, the flames danced very similarly to how real flames do.

So later in the day, Jesse and Amy were just starting to come down, and decided to go upstairs with Jon to make some food. I had a sudden strong urge to masturbate (XD) so I went in the bathroom and tried, but if you've ever tried to jerk off or have sex on shrooms, you'll know that it's nigh impossible. I don't know why, chemically, but it just doesn't happen, or is really hard.

THE CLIMAX!!!

So after a couple minutes of that, I decided to run upstairs and see what they were all doing. They were cooking food and talking about stuff, and I just leaned against the counter and listened in. But after a minute or two, I started getting headrushes. Like, REALLY intense ones. And I had never had a head rush during a trip before, and there were really weird thoughts going through my head that I can only describe as layers of existence-questioning thoughts, each one more deep and convoluted than the previous. It was way more complex than that, but I can't remember any specifics. Then there was one last head rush, which was the most intense of them all. So intense that I started to lose my sense of sight. The last thing I remember doing was reaching up to my head and getting ready to say something to Jon, and then I woke up on the kitchen floor with my glasses broken and my friends calling out my name.

Apparently I fainted and fell face first onto the floor, and was out for about ten seconds before I came to. It was the weirdest experience of my life, because I have never fainted before, nor even come close to it. And not only that, but I was still hella tripping at the time. So I just sat up and the first thing I asked, obviously, was, "What happened?" they told me I fainted. Then I asked, "Did anyone call anybody?" hoping no one called the ambulance or something. They didn't, so that was good. Then after sitting for about ten minutes (which I recall only feeling like a minute or two) Jesse, who was kind of freaked out by the incident, naturally, and was sitting on the floor, started to convulse a little bit and had what I assume was a mild seizure, which only lasted for about five seconds before he went unconscious. Amy was totally terrified and was screaming his name, and I just jumped up onto my feet and was still totally dazed and had no idea wtf was going on. He woke up a few seconds later and immediately apologized, because he had been in a similar shroom situation involving someone fainting, and he had freaked himself out into a slight panic-attack. Eventually we went back downstairs and just kinda chilled out for a while, and that was pretty much the end of the evening.

Overall, I would say it was a good trip :]

As for an explanation of why I fainted, I concluded it was because of a few key reasons: 1) I was getting over a cold (yes I know it was dumb to trip in this condition, but I was excited) 2) I went right from a strenuous activity (jerkin' the gherkin) to 3) running upstairs into the kitchen where 4) it was hot due to food being made on the stove. I'm also prone to getting head rushes when I stand up quite often in general.

So anyone who is going to shroom, use my story as a lesson to ALWAYS prepare yourself, physically and mentally before you do.

To add to this story, a couple weeks later, I was in the house by myself, taking a bath with my pipe and hookah on the table next to the tub. I was totally relaxed, and it was really hot and muggy. I suddenly had the idea to go for a walk and rent a movie, which got me really excited, so I stood up quickly, and immediately my head started spinning, so I got a little worried and stepped out of the tub and started to walk out of the bathroom. Then, wouldn't you know it, I awoke on the floor again WAY more dazed than the last time I fainted, and I think I was out a bit longer (maybe a couple minutes) this time, but I can't say for sure. So I stood up (and remember, I just got out of the bath so I was completely naked) and stumbled out into the living room, only partially able to see where I was going. I was incredibly disoriented and kept running into shit, trying to find the couch. I had my computer set up on a table near the couch, and was so fucked up that I almost sat down on my monitor thinking it was the couch. Eventually, I found it, laid down, and proceeded to try and comprehend what was going on. It was about an hour before I could sit up without feeling faint, and another hour before I could stand up. Walking the twenty feet into the kitchen to get some water took about 30 seconds because I was still totally discombobulated.

So at that point, I was a bit concerned and checked out how common it was to faint twice within two months with no history of health problems. The reasons this time were pretty obvious. Weed often causes an increase in heart rate, and that combined with the light-headedness you get from smoking shisha, the high temperature in the bathroom, going from floating in water to suddenly standing up, and the excitement over my idea to get a movie are the perfect ingredients for a fainting.

Needless to say, I had kind of an awakening as to how fragile the human body is, especially the brain, and I thought a lot about how easy it is to die. Since then, every time I get a head rush, there's always the lingering paranoia that I'm going to faint and fall down and smash my head open or impale myself on something. So far none of that has happened.

But YEP, that's mah story.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 27, 2008, 11:54:56 PM
I've fainted once. I was out for maybe 1 second. I got up off the couch (I had not had any drugs at all at this time) and began to run to the kitchen. By the time I got about 5 steps (at most) which brought me in front of the doorway to the kitchen, the headrush made me loose vision, and I actually fainted. I woke up about a second or so later with my face still sore from doing a running faceplant into the ground.

Other than that, the only other times I've been in danger of fainting were the first time I smoked a popper and when I was part of a Jamaican shower. The second one I mentioned, I would have actually collapsed, if it weren't for my friend Bruce getting me out of there before I did. The popper one, I simply lost vision for a second (not all that uncommon for me when I get headrushes.)

I believe what a head rush is is your body failing to keep the enough blood flow to your brain. Usually there are mechanisms in place to keep the blood pressure in your brain up at all times, but things can mess with them, and if they're not working right, either standing, or getting up quickly can cause you to get a head rush.

I need to buy myself a pipe or bong before I try salvia again (yay for it being legal and sold all over here).

I honestly think I'm prepared for shrooms or other hallucinogens, I just need to actually get some. It sucks when practically none of your friends do drugs like you do :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on May 28, 2008, 12:10:13 AM
Yeah you're pretty much right about the head rush thing. Put simply, it's caused by a sudden fall in blood pressure. Fun fact: The official term for a head rush is Orthostatic hypotension.

Wow, I'm tempted to send you some money so you can buy me some salvia if it's that readily available :O
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 28, 2008, 12:15:48 AM
Lol, well, around here there are lots of little convenience stores that have pipes, and small bongs and stuff, and most of them that have all that, also sell salvia.

And yeah, I looked up Orthostatic Hypotension because I wanted to find out why I was getting those head rushes, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 28, 2008, 02:32:40 AM
That story made me want to try shrooms a little less, and I've done some weak salvia. I guess having already seen some decent hallucinations (I couldn't even really communicate with people, beside a few words)  would prepare me, but unless I did it with some people I doubt I would.

Also I used to get head rushes all the time that would blind me. Never have I blacked out, but I almost made myself when I put my head under my show for a long time, I guess the heat and the pressure and cause blood flow irregularities.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on May 28, 2008, 02:59:53 AM
I've got to try salvia sometime. I also really wanna give DMT a shot. My friend was actually considering trying to synthesize it himself.

I actually really want to try it... And what the hell is DMT?

Do not trip with someone who is not going to as well. Regardless of how well you think you can handle it, it's going to be at least a little bit awkward.

I've found this too true, even with bud or some alcohol. (or both... xD)

I had a sudden strong urge to masturbate (XD) so I went in the bathroom and tried, but if you've ever tried to jerk off or have sex on shrooms, you'll know that it's nigh impossible. I don't know why, chemically, but it just doesn't happen, or is really hard.

I'm prolly not the only here that's tried it, but workin a jerk on weed is harder, but the results are.. More than satisfactory. =o Wish I could say the same for being drunk, but that just makes it harder, and desensitized. =(

I was in the house by myself, taking a bath with my pipe and hookah on the table next to the tub. I was totally relaxed, and it was really hot and muggy. I suddenly had the idea to go for a walk and rent a movie

Shit son, That's way too gangster for me. I TOTALLY need to do that.

Needless to say, I had kind of an awakening as to how fragile the human body is, especially the brain, and I thought a lot about how easy it is to die. Since then, every time I get a head rush, there's always the lingering paranoia that I'm going to faint and fall down and smash my head open or impale myself on something. So far none of that has happened.

That couldn't be any closer to my own experiences. It may sound odd, but sometimes reality becomes clearer when youre not in reality. Pretty ironic, but some of my most creative, self-discovering, and interesting thoughts have been under the infuence of something...

Awesome story, I even liked how you told it.

Salvia is readily available here in California (unsurprisingly not too far from Oregon). Nearest place that sells it to my house sells 20x, 30x, and 35x extracts, ranging from $15 to $35 dollars (IIRC). I really want to do it, but I'd much rather (as mentioned previously) do it with someone else. For security reasons, and because getting fucked up with a buddy is WAY MORE FUN than by yourself. :}

There's only a handful of things I'd be interesting trying (or doing over again): Weed, drinking, salvia, mushrooms, and lsd. I really want to try a hallucinogen.. I once smoked some regular-ass green and I actually tripped a little (or maybe because I was ridiculously high.. D: ), and I think that had enticed me even more to try them. There's just something about seeing shit that's askew in the world that I really love.

I have an acquaintance that's a frequent recreational user... He told me that if I ever wanted to try the latter three of my above list, that I should be willing to accept anything I experienced, and willing to reject any reality I knew. Apparently not being ready mentally is the hugest cause of bad trips. Mindset, mindset, mindset. But yeah, anyway, he informed me that that was probably the leading cause; people just aren't able or willing to accept things that aren't familiar to them, and try to fight the influence rather than embrace them.

Anyway, tripping balls on shit is the sort of thing that might be totally up my alley. It's just made me more than extremely curious... hehehe.

Oh, and sorry if it seemed like I was replying to every other sentence... I was trying not to do that. :\
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on May 28, 2008, 03:32:38 AM
"I actually really want to try it... And what the hell is DMT?"

 - DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine) - to sum it up, it's an intense hallucinatory drug that is derived from plants that are actually pretty common. It's also produced naturally in the human body, and is thought to have something to do with the chemicals involved in the brain when we dream. That's also what the trip is sometimes described as... very lucid dreams. It's a lot like salvia, I hear, too. It lasts slightly longer on average, but is quite intense.

"I've found this too true, even with bud or some alcohol. (or both... xD)"

 - Good point.

"I'm prolly not the only here that's tried it, but workin a jerk on weed is harder, but the results are.. More than satisfactory. =o Wish I could say the same for being drunk, but that just makes it harder, and desensitized. =("

 - Oh man... stoned orgasms are fucking GREAT. One time, an ex and I got really stoned together and had the most amazing, porn-esque sex ever haha.

"Shit son, That's way too gangster for me. I TOTALLY need to do that."

 - It's a great way to relax, you definitely should. And what would make it better is also having a hefty bowl of your favorite cereal with you in the tub.

"That couldn't be any closer to my own experiences. It may sound odd, but sometimes reality becomes clearer when youre not in reality. Pretty ironic, but some of my most creative, self-discovering, and interesting thoughts have been under the infuence of something..."

 - Hahah, yeah I know what you mean. My friend Jon isn't exactly an artist, but he draws the weirdest shit when he's high on shit.

"There's only a handful of things I'd be interesting trying (or doing over again): Weed, drinking, salvia, mushrooms, and lsd. I really want to try a hallucinogen.. I once smoked some regular-ass green and I actually tripped a little (or maybe because I was ridiculously high.. D: ), and I think that had enticed me even more to try them. There's just something about seeing shit that's askew in the world that I really love."

 - I highly recommend acid. It's relatively cheap, and the high is really pleasant, especially if you're in the right place. When I did it, I was at the beach with my friends, and it was the greatest experience of my life. If you have a friend who likes to discuss deep things, do it with him/her, because you'll have the most incredible conversations EVER.

I've heard of people sometimes having mild trips from weed. For me, I have really intense auditory hallucinations when I'm super stoned. That pretty much means I hear things that aren't there, if you didn't get that. I once sat down one night and just listened to voices saying random things. The voices are as clear as anything, and sometimes they're familiar, but mostly they're just random voices my mind put together. Sometimes what is said aren't really words, which is really interesting. Here is what I heard over the span of about three minutes (keep in mind I was very stoned and I didn't bother to make revisions because the voices were coming so quick, and the things in square brackets aren't voices, but rather descriptions of what things sounded like or what else was happening):

Quote
Frant handler Sistine man afloat around a pile of wooden banks surrounded unworthy of horky dubby seirt Lizzy Bowman Lizzy Bowman zizing zoolah. What someone has the ocean atop a lonely shadow. ROOOOOL MAGIC@ It sits atop Atomey. Sugar handler go missile launches lies. Which ones were a little bit fifty? I hate gators. They make me so fat and Scurvy. BRRR!!! It
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 28, 2008, 07:13:36 AM
DMT is considered to be the most powerful psychedelic drug, as far as the strength of the trip is concerned. Salvia is considered relatively powerful, but since it is so short lived, it negates some of the strength, where DMT lasts a bit longer, and is more powerful, providing for an extremely powerful and sometimes extremely profound change in outlook.

Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on May 28, 2008, 10:55:54 AM
"Home Improvement" becomes fucking hilarious when you're drunk.  (Or at least when I'm drunk.)  Watching Tim drop a 3-ton beam on his wife's car made me rofl all the way to the floor.  Really!


It's a bit scary.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 28, 2008, 12:16:55 PM
Mah, I'd find it that funny if I was high, but not drunk. I usually never really pay attention to what's on when I'm drunk. I'm too busy making jokes with my friends. Or making fun of my friend for passing out in the middle of texting someone on their cell phone.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on May 28, 2008, 12:28:22 PM
Well, Jupi's never been high.  :P  She wants to change that sometime though.  haha
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on May 30, 2008, 04:54:51 AM
Sq3r - Thank god I am not the only person who couldn't stop myself from attemptin' the batin' while on shrooms. It is indeed nigh unto impossible, and fairly hilarious when you look back on it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on May 30, 2008, 12:23:16 PM
It's just such an enticing idea. I mean, if you think of how great orgasms can be when you're totally sober, imagine how they are when you've peaked on shrooms. I have been able to climax while on shrooms but it was later in the trip when I could focus better. And yes, it is amazing.

Also, on one of my better trips, I was using my friend's bathroom and taking a pee in the dark (I made sure I was getting it in the toilet, don't worry) and since it was pitch black, all I could see with my eyes open were the usual "closed eye" visuals, but they were being affected by the different sound my pee would make when I moved it to different parts of the bowl. SO basically I was seeing something like an iTunes visualization but for my pee stream. :D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 30, 2008, 12:25:36 PM
I'm definitely going to have to try that, lol. Maybe my GF and I can experiment on shrooms sometime :P
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on May 30, 2008, 12:41:54 PM
I haven't been able to test this out, but I've heard that you can perform incredibly well during sex when you're on acid. Not to mention it's probably awesome.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 30, 2008, 12:48:30 PM
Either way, we're in for interesting times, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on May 30, 2008, 05:22:34 PM
I'm probably going to try acid sometime in the next few weeks. >:V
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on May 30, 2008, 06:30:01 PM
I'm probably going to try acid sometime in the next few weeks. >:V

I'd like to, any ideas on pricing/dosage?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on May 30, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Apparently, it ranges from 3 to 5 bucks a hit, at least around here, and usually one hit is all you need, unless you're willing to completely scramble your brain.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on May 30, 2008, 07:31:44 PM
I've read that a hit of acid (which is considered just fine for first-timers/lightweights) is between 3 and 7 dollars on average. The one time I took it, it was 5, and I took two, which was great. Next time, though, I'm going to drop at least three. But dosage and price -like every other drug- varies on the quality and who you get it from. Make sure, if you do end up buying some, get it from someone you trust, or someone that someone you trust trusts. I bought mine from one my best friends, and that weekend was the best weekend of my life :] I think I talked about my beach "trip" here, didn't I? Anyway, it was great, and I plan on doing it a couple more times this summer.

I'm probably going to try acid sometime in the next few weeks. >:V

Nice, make sure you let us know how that goes.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 30, 2008, 11:44:34 PM
I think I talked about my beach "trip" here, didn't I?

Yep. After reading that, I really wanted to drop some acid, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on June 13, 2008, 09:04:44 AM
The parents of my senior classed threw an all night safe and sober party. Being the cool kid that I am I decided to try thizzzzzzzzzz. I didn't get the full effects even after I took a 2nd pill. I was kinda bummed for the night.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on June 13, 2008, 02:06:29 PM
What did you take? Ecstasy?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 13, 2008, 03:37:31 PM
You mean "Ex/cstasy" (since some people spell it one way or the other). Ex is one of the most tampered with drugs out there, so he probably got pills that contained little to no actual MDMA.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on June 13, 2008, 05:20:17 PM
I found out that the pills I got were heroin based, so I got a relaxed trip, and not the super hyphy high I wanted.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on June 13, 2008, 05:50:37 PM
I always like to spell it without the x, it just looks better to me :|

Also, the three times I took E I got shit too, so I'm probably gonna stay away from it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on June 13, 2008, 06:41:16 PM
I can defiantly can get good pills, this time I just got unlucky. I have a friend that gets pure MDMA powder for raves and things like that, but he was out of town when I needed mah durgz. This forced me to go to another buddy, who can only get mixed pills.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 13, 2008, 10:35:55 PM
Lame, I'd never take the mixed shit. There's too much chance of meth being in it, and meth is BAD NEWS.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 14, 2008, 12:11:37 AM
So I've got a friend throwing a small kegger party at her house. Fun times are bound to ensure.

Well shit, that night was one big blur. I remember having one friend about passed out when I was there, then another passed out, then a few more puked and I remember passing out (and vomiting, thank god I was already "out side"), only later to find my car and fall asleep in it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on June 16, 2008, 05:46:34 PM
was it fun?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 16, 2008, 07:04:18 PM
was it fun?

Somewhat, but really, I've like forgotten how to pace myself. That, and all of my friends are into drinking games now, so I had to down more beer then I would have cared for. Really, me and about 10-15 people killed a keg, I think I had somewhere around 15 beers (complete guess considering how little I remember that night). Also the next day, I only ate dinner, due to the fact that my stomach was not in the right place at all. I was still buzzed when I woke up.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 17, 2008, 03:15:54 AM
I've woken up drunk before. Well, it wasn't exactly drunk. It was more like you body is drunk, but your mind is sober. I could think straight (more or less, I was fucking tired) but when I tried to walk, I was stumbling and nearly falling over. But that was after the night I had minor alcohol poisoning.

I know what it's like only eating dunner, lol. It happens most times I drink. My stomach is always fucked after aq night of drinking. I rarely get any other parts of a hangover, but gut rot is something I can pretty much count on the next day.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on June 18, 2008, 12:04:36 AM
Got a 200-caplet bottle of advil PM at Costco. I like that stuff. Not addicted though.

And I still need to try that cough syrup. The hell brand was it again, Ari? Remind me :x
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 18, 2008, 09:05:33 AM
Robitussin DM. One of the only brands that is actually decently safe.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on June 24, 2008, 12:02:53 AM
getting stoned for the first time. It feels weaker than I thought.

EDIT: 8 hits later, I still don't feel much different.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 24, 2008, 03:20:36 AM
First time I was stoned, I could barely hold a conversation.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on June 24, 2008, 03:27:05 AM
I have heard that some people don't get high their first time, but I couldn't explain it scientifically :| Lamesauce.

The first time I got stoned, I ate too much and was sick the next day and threw up like four times without eating anything the whole day XD
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Post by: Bobbias on June 24, 2008, 03:29:17 AM
lol, I haven't heard of anyone not getting high their first time, it's actually the other way around, you're supposed to get higher your first time than you'll ever get again, and that was certainly true for me.

I was honestly so completely out of it I could barely keep a conversation. I kept forgetting what we were talking about, and such, not to mention I felt like I could barely talk.
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Post by: Zakamiro on June 24, 2008, 06:52:56 AM
not getting high the first time is a common problem. Also make sure your weed doesn't suck.
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Post by: annon on June 24, 2008, 12:26:14 PM
Well, everyone around me was stoned after 3 hits, so I was pretty disappointed after my 9. I was screwing with one of them by continuously changing the time on an analog clock, which I guess was pretty fun.

And yeah, I also heard that some people don't get high their first time.
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Post by: Bobbias on June 24, 2008, 05:04:14 PM
I've never heard of that. Maybe it's because we all smoke BC weed here, and everyone knows BC weed pwns all other weed :P
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 24, 2008, 10:49:09 PM
and everyone knows BC weed pwns all other weed :P

...wut? Is that some way of saying highs, or dank?
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Post by: Sqthreer! on June 25, 2008, 12:32:16 AM
British Columbia, I do believe. But yeah, I'd like to get a taste of that some day. That's not to say I haven't had my fair share of good weed though. The first strain I ever smoked was Trainwreck, and I've been "raised" on the good stuff since. The best I ever had was Northern Lights, and I was getting a steady supply of that for a couple months until my dealer ran out.

So apparently my new girlfriend can get me some really good salvia for free because her dad sells it, haha. I'm looking forward to that.
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Post by: Bobbias on June 25, 2008, 06:39:19 AM
Haha, nice. And yep, British Columbia. I have no damn clue what strain it is, but pretty much all the weed coming from BC is fucking amazing. Occasionally my friend gets some of the fucking purple shit, and apparently that stuff is just fucking amazing.
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Post by: Zakamiro on June 25, 2008, 08:12:29 AM
Haha, nice. And yep, British Columbia. I have no damn clue what strain it is, but pretty much all the weed coming from BC is fucking amazing. Occasionally my friend gets some of the fucking purple shit, and apparently that stuff is just fucking amazing.

purp's aaight.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 25, 2008, 11:37:27 PM
How about this Mango? My friend, who is a huge stoner and often smokes mids, said it was some of the best stuff he has ever had.
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Post by: Zakamiro on June 26, 2008, 06:51:02 AM
never heard of it.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on June 26, 2008, 01:18:05 PM
I bought a dub of mango once. Can't say it was anything special.

http://www.marijuanastrains.com/

Of the top five on that page I've had the pleasure of smoking Northern Lights and Purple Haze.
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Post by: Bobbias on June 26, 2008, 04:09:45 PM
I think I've had some Champagne before. I definitely remember something very similar to what they describe. Resinous buds and orange hairs. Not to mention it says pretty much an exclusive to Canada :P
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 26, 2008, 10:49:10 PM
So, I just passed down smoking a little pot, and now I regret it. Also I'm thinking of buying some Methadone, is this awesome Y/N? 
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: NewF on June 26, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
Try to avoid meth...Ive seen alot of bad things..Not saying it'll happen to you...But I wouldn't take the chance.
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Post by: Zakamiro on June 27, 2008, 04:59:43 AM
fuck meth.

also, here's proof:

(http://i26.tinypic.com/2i7r2ap.jpg)


hahaha. But seriously. Never touch that shit. I'd rather do heroin.
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Post by: Bobbias on June 27, 2008, 07:17:45 AM
Both of which you should never touch in your life. Heroin is considered the worst drug on earth.

Also, that Methadone is NOT Methamphetamine (which is commonly called Meth.)

Methadone is an opioid used primarily as either a pain killer, or an anti-addictive drug to help ease someone out of an addiction. It's not as bad as Crystal Meth, but still pretty bad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg)

The source for the info for that image: http://www.antiproibizionisti.it/public/docs/thelancet_20070323.pdf
A pretty interesting read, too.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 27, 2008, 12:36:43 PM
Quote
Social harm

I loled, but yes I doubt I'll get that considering it's somewhat hard to obtain, and my friend who used to do it said weed was pretty much better.

Also no, I'm not doing meth. I don;t even live in a trailer yet.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on June 27, 2008, 01:05:06 PM
That "Montana Meth Project" picture is kinda funny just for the fact that it's almost implying that prostitution is okay as long as you're getting reasonably compensated.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 27, 2008, 01:25:37 PM
That "Montana Meth Project" picture is kinda funny just for the fact that it's almost implying that prostitution is okay as long as you're getting reasonably compensated.

Oh god, now that I think of it, yeah, you are completely right.
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Post by: Zakamiro on June 28, 2008, 08:04:46 AM
Ok, here's some pics of my purp (pokemon cart for size comparison):


http://www.zakamiro.net/media/img/somedir/IMG_1491.JPG
http://www.zakamiro.net/media/img/somedir/IMG_1490.JPG
http://www.zakamiro.net/media/img/somedir/IMG_1492.JPG


This one's way blown out and blurry, but you can def see crystals and color well (and I thought, "Why not post it, anyway?"):
http://www.zakamiro.net/media/img/somedir/IMG_1489.JPG
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 28, 2008, 08:35:52 AM
Nice man. I so need to get me some weed :/

Also, I need to try parachutes and buckets, lol.
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Post by: ovanova on June 29, 2008, 02:47:39 AM
That "Montana Meth Project" picture is kinda funny just for the fact that it's almost implying that prostitution is okay as long as you're getting reasonably compensated.
Hey, man, I have no problem with that. Prostitutes need money, too. And some of us really need sex.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 29, 2008, 02:59:27 AM
So I just had some cherry harvest (not sure of the name) Samuel Adams, and it was rather tasty. It gets a little too sweet at the end, but still a damn tasty drink.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on June 29, 2008, 06:24:58 AM
Oh don't get me wrong, I am all for prostitution, but it's just kinda interesting how important semantics can be sometimes.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 29, 2008, 08:44:08 AM
Oh don't get me wrong, I am all for prostitution, but it's just kinda interesting how important semantics can be sometimes.

Quoted for MAJOR truth.

I am such a Nazi about some semantics sometimes, lol.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on June 29, 2008, 12:27:51 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sqthreer/me/me2/too-cool-for-drugs.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on June 29, 2008, 06:58:21 PM
I think I had one of those when I was younger, OH GOD WHAT HAVE I BECOME.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 30, 2008, 06:38:21 AM
lol, I find it kinda funny that despite the fact that my parents raised my brother and I in an alcohol and drug free house, and we never really came into contact with drugs till highschool, we both smoke weed and drink, lol.

And I'm pretty sure my brother has done a line or two. And maybe some other stuff too.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on June 30, 2008, 01:54:23 PM
Same here. My dad occasionally drank beer, but I was never exposed to drugs of any kind. Even through high school, mostly all my friends were drug and alcohol free, and I was never once pressured into it. Then one day after living my life totally anti-drug, I decided I wanted to smoke weed, so I did.

Funny how things change.
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Post by: Jupi on June 30, 2008, 03:31:31 PM
Same here. My dad occasionally drank beer, but I was never exposed to drugs of any kind. Even through high school, mostly all my friends were drug and alcohol free, and I was never once pressured into it. Then one day after living my life totally anti-drug, I decided I wanted to smoke weed, so I did.

Funny how things change.

That sounds just like me.  Except for the very last part, having actually smoked weed.  :P
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Post by: Bobbias on June 30, 2008, 04:42:36 PM
Well, I knew about 3 guys who smoked weed, but I was never pressured into it either. I just decided one day to try it. It was actually nearly a year after that before I began to smoke it more often. And I've been weed free for like, nearly 2 years, IIRC.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on June 30, 2008, 06:34:40 PM
The first time I tried it was with my best friend who had just started after about four years of sobriety a couple weeks before. I had been considering it for a while, but the girl I was with at the time was way anti-drug so I just didn't. But then we broke up and I was like "fuck it" and told him I wanted to do it. Neither of us had a piece so we had to fashion ourselves one out of an Amp energy drink can. Twas a good day.
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Post by: Zakamiro on June 30, 2008, 06:49:15 PM
buying them is an invaluable investment.

Oh, and mickey's is damn good. Damn good.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on June 30, 2008, 07:35:18 PM
Buying a pipe? If so then I must agree. Since then I've bought four and made two out of small plumbing parts from Home Depot XD I will be buying a bong from a friend soon, and it'll be the first one I've owned so I'm excited.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 30, 2008, 10:15:13 PM
Yeah, pipes are so useful, too bad my mom took mine way back when she found out.
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Post by: Zakamiro on July 01, 2008, 06:40:33 AM
Buying a pipe? If so then I must agree. Since then I've bought four and made two out of small plumbing parts from Home Depot XD I will be buying a bong from a friend soon, and it'll be the first one I've owned so I'm excited.

Agreed. They cost from $12 to $130, depending on size and colors, design, etc. (obv) More economical than smoking from a rolled one, at least so it seems.

Pipes are easy to make, as are bongs. I've only done a bong once, and it was pretty rad, the smoke was barely warm.

Stupid idea:
I wonder what it'd be like if you made your own, and plugged it into a pump, 80mm cpu radiator with an 80mm fan. (or even 120mm). Heh, maybe even a battery pack, although I dunno how feasible it is to do that by battery-- a dc transformer might be the best idea.

Anyway, a piece is definitely worth it, and kinda honestly, if you cant afford one, why the fuck are you smoking? lol
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 01, 2008, 07:23:27 AM
I've made pop-bottle pipes quite a few times.

I'll tell you right now, never try a dry bong :/ those things are harsh as fuck dry.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 01, 2008, 03:33:26 PM
Here is my arsenal:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sqthreer/pipes.jpg)
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Post by: itsgravy on July 01, 2008, 03:58:44 PM
Bowls

Nice coffin.  Though I only have three myself, my favorite is an apple pipe:
http://www.smokingwithstyle.com/applepipe.htm (http://www.smokingwithstyle.com/applepipe.htm)
 which makes everything taste like apples for an hour (or so it seems :) )
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 01, 2008, 04:53:41 PM
Apple pipes are pretty awesome. Not only can you smoke out of it, but it becomes a tasty treat when you're done 8D
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Post by: Bobbias on July 01, 2008, 09:05:48 PM
Lol, nice. Though you don't really need a mouthpiece that bad. I've used pop bottles as pipes before. Just burn a hole in the side, burn the paper from the foil that comes with a cigarette package (that we found on the ground) and poke some holes in it (with the end of a bobby pin, which we also found on the ground), stick the foil in the top of the bottle and stick the weed in that.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 01, 2008, 10:58:00 PM
I like that piece on the far right. I rarely se anything like that, it's either bongs or bowls (mostly like that black one there). Also oddest thing I've probably smoked with would be pages of the bible.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 02, 2008, 03:09:08 AM
That's like.. the ultimate blasphemy right there XD

And yes, that pipe you mentioned is quite cool. In fact, it was the first pipe I ever bought. I ordered it from grasscity.com. I never use it anymore though. What I've been using recently is the wooden one, which kicks ass because it hits perfectly and it just looks awesome. Also, I got it for only six bucks :D

I forgot about one other pipe I have that's not pictured there. It's a little metal chillum disguised as a cigarette, but I haven't used it in forever.

So yeah I really wanna do acid again.
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Post by: Jupi on July 02, 2008, 03:14:19 AM
If you blow into the one on the right, does it make the sound of a train whistle?
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Post by: Bobbias on July 02, 2008, 09:20:37 AM
Personally, I like the middle metal one. I just like the way it looks.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 02, 2008, 09:22:09 AM
If you blow into the one on the right, does it make the sound of a train whistle?

That would be endlessly entertaining. I want something like that.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 02, 2008, 12:49:15 PM
If you blow into the one on the right, does it make the sound of a train whistle?

I wish :[

Personally, I like the middle metal one. I just like the way it looks.

That's the one I made out of plumbing pieces from Home Depot. It's name is Pipey Longstocking Jr. It's "Jr." because my friend and I made a much more kickass looking one out plumbing parts before it, but he has custody over that one. He doesn't even smoke pot anymore...
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Post by: Bobbias on July 02, 2008, 01:12:08 PM
Lame. Still, nice one.
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Post by: ovanova on July 02, 2008, 10:58:49 PM
oh hi thread that I haven't posted in yet

Jesus is ashamed of all of you you're all going to hell for doing drukqs etc. etc. etc.

P.S. do you think it'd be possible to somehow get some sort of drug on a water fountain faucet and then take some of it when you drink from the fountain because one time during math class and a bit after when I got home (math class is my last period) my hands were suspiciously jittery like I had absolutely no control of them. I'd just think of something to write and it was like somebody else was controlling what I wrote. I had to focus to write somewhat legibly. The sensation was extremely unfamiliar to me, having only done pot once and that was oh six months ago; this was a month and a half ago.

P.S. on second thought it's probably a really stupid question :< but it was weird as hell.
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Post by: Zakamiro on July 03, 2008, 02:34:38 AM
sounds like caffeine. If you drink caffeine, or ate lots of sugar, this usually can happen. Both the comedown from the caffeine and insulin have been known to me to do this, I'm suspecting this to be the cause. While I don't doubt the existence of water fountain drug-terrorists, it seems unlikely. I'd definitely try to remember what you had eaten that day.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 03, 2008, 11:19:20 AM
Yeah, although I had an extremely weird experience with caffeine before that has taught me a bit more about how it feels.

I was stoned at the time, so I was far more susceptible to the caffeine, and man did it make a difference. I'd eaten a lot of chocolate covered coffee beans when i got the munchies, and I got to the point where I was shaking badly, but didn't notice, and it was like i had a BAD (VERY VERY BAD) case of ADD, I could barely string a coherent thought together long enough to voice it. I would definitely have had to think hard to write anything legibly.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 04, 2008, 03:40:15 AM
I took an Ambien my girlfriend game be about a half hour ago and I'm starting to feel it. I love how sleeping aids make you feel :D

I also got a Hydrocodone tablet that I'm saving for a special occasion.
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Post by: ovanova on July 04, 2008, 09:44:33 AM
sounds like caffeine. If you drink caffeine, or ate lots of sugar, this usually can happen. Both the comedown from the caffeine and insulin have been known to me to do this, I'm suspecting this to be the cause. While I don't doubt the existence of water fountain drug-terrorists, it seems unlikely. I'd definitely try to remember what you had eaten that day.
But the thing is that I rarely ever drink soda or coffee, and one or two sodas has never made me go fucking crazy. And it was just a weird time to start feeling like that y'know? So that's why I am confused and asking silly questions.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 04, 2008, 10:49:30 AM
Do you know what a high dose of caffeine feels like? after a certain point, it feels different than the regular awake and energetic and such feelings you usually get.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 04, 2008, 01:49:10 PM
My friend and I once ingested seven times the amount of caffeine considered for an overdose. All that really happened is that I had to pee a lot, and that I got jittery and didn't sleep that night. Nothing major, really, but it was quite interesting.
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Post by: annon on July 04, 2008, 02:11:54 PM
I heard that after a certain point, you start hallucinating.
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Post by: ovanova on July 04, 2008, 02:34:41 PM
Do you know what a high dose of caffeine feels like? after a certain point, it feels different than the regular awake and energetic and such feelings you usually get.
Cool, but I've never had that much caffeine >=(
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Post by: Bobbias on July 05, 2008, 03:07:04 PM
My point was that the water could have been spiked with caffeine, because what you described sounded pretty close to what I felt when I was high, minus the part about being high.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 05, 2008, 03:29:29 PM
I always wondered about the contamination of public water fountains. But I mean, realistically, I don't see how it could be tampered with to deliver any amount of anything besides water without there either being something obviously attached to it, or if the entire water supply was tainted somehow.

My guess as to what happened to you is that something went awry in your body's chemistry and caused you to have a speed-like freakout reaction of some kind. I'm no physiologist, but the human body is a mysterious and wacky thing.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 05, 2008, 03:57:51 PM
However, it generally reacts to things in a fairly predictable fashion.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 05, 2008, 05:47:54 PM
Well what I was saying is maybe his body just manifested a spaz out on its own somehow without any outside contribution. I dunno XD
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Post by: TimJing on July 05, 2008, 10:47:05 PM
I took an Ambien my girlfriend game be about a half hour ago and I'm starting to feel it. I love how sleeping aids make you feel :D

Dude yeah, me too. I usually split my sister's ambien prescription with her (at a fee) and take those in conjunction with Advil PM and a few drinks. You get knocked out hella quick that way.
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Post by: Jupi on July 06, 2008, 12:12:54 AM
I wish I had something to knock me out.  :/  I can rarely get to sleep before 7am nowadays. 
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 06, 2008, 02:31:23 AM
Just chug some Nyquil. That always does the trick.
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Post by: Jupi on July 06, 2008, 03:21:51 AM
The last time I took NyQuil, I was up for another 40 hours.
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Post by: Spectere on July 06, 2008, 10:05:23 AM
Rum is not my friend.

I woke up with a nasty hangover this morning.  Fortunately, it was bad enough that I threw up.  It's amazing how much better I feel now.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 06, 2008, 04:22:31 PM
Funny, I've never thrown up after sleeping.
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Post by: Spectere on July 06, 2008, 05:36:01 PM
Armegeddon said that he only did when he fell asleep sitting down.  So, I dunno.

I guess realistically it could have been that nasty Burger King I ate last night, but everyone else ate it (and complained about how bad it way) and I was the only one to hurl.

Also, the only other hangover that I had was after drinking rum (among other things), and last night all I had was rum.  And it definitely feels like a hangover.  I've been horribly off all day today (you should have seen my timing on Rock Band earlier, it was all over the mark).  Blech.

I should be 100% a-ok tomorrow.
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Post by: Jupi on July 06, 2008, 06:32:50 PM
I've been horribly off all day today (you should have seen my timing on Rock Band earlier, it was all over the mark).  Blech.


Boy, there's a new argument for MADD if I ever saw one.  Drinking makes you suck at Rock Band the next day! 

*watches in awe as college campuses all over the country stop throwing keggers*

 ;)
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Post by: Spectere on July 06, 2008, 06:49:02 PM
Y'know, I think you just might have something there, Jupi... :o
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Post by: Jupi on July 06, 2008, 10:39:34 PM
Damn straight, sister! 
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on July 07, 2008, 02:08:49 AM
I had the munchies so I went to taco bell and ordered THE BIG BOX, I feel obese now.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 07, 2008, 02:37:25 AM
Man I hate getting the munchies.

Have you ever been SO high that food no longer tastes good but instead just 'tastes'? Like, you can't even enjoy it because it has transcended deliciousness into a realm of sensation that our minds have not yet evolved to comprehend.
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Post by: Jupi on July 07, 2008, 03:35:06 AM


Have you ever been SO high that food no longer tastes good but instead just 'tastes'? Like, you can't even enjoy it because it has transcended deliciousness into a realm of sensation that our minds have not yet evolved to comprehend.

I get that when I eat curry. 
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 07, 2008, 03:36:55 AM
O damn, now I'm hungry :[

I want some Thai food.
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Post by: Jupi on July 07, 2008, 03:39:08 AM
Me too.  And I'm not even high.

Just unable to sleep again.  -.-
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on July 07, 2008, 03:41:26 AM
there's this place about 20 minutes away that has the best fucking katsu curry on the planet. Its this little to-go japanese place called Kaz grill. Now I must make a trip to go there tomorrow.
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Post by: Jupi on July 07, 2008, 03:45:07 AM
I know of four places where I can get tasty happy yummy curry.

And they're all at least a half-hour drive from here.

I should get my license soon...heh.
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Post by: itsgravy on July 07, 2008, 03:13:05 PM
tasty happy yummy curry.

Chicken Tikka Jalfrezi is possibly my favorite curry dish.  I grew up with Indian and Greek neighbors so I'm still looking for that curry gyro I've been dreaming of my whole life.

THE BIG BOX, I feel obese now.

Over the weekend I tried to eat an entire one of those after smoking weed from my hooka but I think I decided I'd regret it the next morning.  Queso crunch wraps are like sex except slathered in cheese and likely cause more STDs. 

What's everyone's favorite munchie food?  I almost always cook up an egg sandwich afterward because it's delicious and covers up the smell nicely.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 07, 2008, 07:02:40 PM
I usually much on whatever's there. Note: Those big fucking buckets of chicken you get form KFC ... Well, a friend of mine and I filled one with popcorn chicken, and killed that in about 10 minutes.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 07, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
I prefer snacking when I'm stoned rather than eating a meal or whatever. A big bag of bran flakes will do me good.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 07, 2008, 10:19:07 PM
I usually much on whatever's there. Note: Those big fucking buckets of chicken you get form KFC ... Well, a friend of mine and I filled one with popcorn chicken, and killed that in about 10 minutes.

Same, but I usually, well, used to smoke at night so we had to be quiet or we'd end up waking someones parents. We usually went out and got some fast food, or left overs. Really any food that doesn't take much prep work is good stoned.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 07, 2008, 10:29:47 PM
Oh and Slurpees :D
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 07, 2008, 10:42:57 PM
Oh and Slurpees :D

Fuck, never had one stoned. The nearest 7/11 is 20-30 minuets away by car. Also I think it closed down by now.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 07, 2008, 11:48:30 PM
Whoa seriously? Slurpees are amazing when you're high. There are three 7-11s within walking distance of me, and another two within a very short driving distance. I thought they were everywhere D:
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Post by: Sneaky on July 07, 2008, 11:51:22 PM
I've never been high D:
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 07, 2008, 11:55:48 PM
Well I haven't been high in about a week...

me no hav muny :[[[[[[[
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Post by: annon on July 07, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
I've never been high D:

Don't worry, I haven't really either. I took 9 hits, but I didn't get high, which is apparently not that uncommon for people when they first try it. I haven't gotten to try it since, but I know I'll have plenty of opportunities when I go off to college in 6 weeks.

Also, we don't have a lot of 7-11's around here, but I know of at least 5 QT's within easy driving distance.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 08, 2008, 12:25:03 AM
Whoa seriously? Slurpees are amazing when you're high. There are three 7-11s within walking distance of me, and another two within a very short driving distance. I thought they were everywhere D:

Sad thing is, nothing is within walking distance of me. The nearest food plaza is about 15-10 minuets driving time, and all those places are closed at (11) night. My friend who lives in the county over has it even worse. So, if we want food we drive into town or go  into the kitchen and eat whatever discarded chips/crackers/cookies there are.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 08, 2008, 01:17:26 AM
I always wondered about people who live far away from everything. Like, when you're on a road trip somewhere on a freeway where there's like nothing but a factory and big hills, then you see this little house with a couple cars, and there's at least a half-hour drive to any sort of town. That's gotta suck :|
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Post by: Bobbias on July 08, 2008, 02:11:33 AM
Usually it's lame people who live in places like that though. You know, the lame ugly oldish people who have no kids and who's lives are essentially work and sleep (unless they're on disability, or something).
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Post by: Spectere on July 08, 2008, 02:57:33 AM
Usually it's lame people who live in places like that though. You know, the lame ugly oldish people who have no kids and who's lives are essentially work and sleep (unless they're on disability, or something).

Erm, having worked in a market research company and working quite a lot in areas like that, I have to say that this statement is beyond false.

Unless the rural areas in Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, and Maryland are all somehow exempt from that "rule."
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Post by: Bobbias on July 08, 2008, 04:30:58 AM
I wasn't really being all that serious.

Although I do believe the "lame people" statement still stands. At least for the people who actually WANT to live out there.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 08, 2008, 05:12:57 AM
Or perhaps they were BANISHED???

Anyway, the summer mushrooms have started to grow recently 8D Can't wait to go picking.
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Post by: Zakamiro on July 08, 2008, 05:38:32 AM
Or perhaps they were BANISHED???

Anyway, the summer mushrooms have started to grow recently 8D Can't wait to go picking.

sir, i got me a paypal account, and an address.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 08, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
Well they grow all over the place and there's a good chance there are some growing in your yard somewhere :p There's a place that's about a two hour drive from here which is known for its bountiful supply of wild azurescens (one of, if not the most potent of the Psilocybe family.) Baeocystis, azurescens, caerulescens, stuntzii and a few others all grow during the summer, and all in the Northwest in pretty much plain site. But seriously, if you ever do decide to go picking, do a HELLUVA lot of research. Eating the wrong mushroom can be quite an unpleasant death: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_poisoning
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Post by: TimJing on July 08, 2008, 11:04:23 AM
I've never been high D:

Me neither, rofl.

Unless you count airplanes, LOL
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 08, 2008, 12:54:50 PM
I thought that's what we were talking about....
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Post by: Spectere on July 08, 2008, 04:42:39 PM
Although I do believe the "lame people" statement still stands. At least for the people who actually WANT to live out there.

Why?  It's quiet, peaceful, out of the way, beautiful.

If getting a broadband connection in the country weren't so difficult I'd go there in a heartbeat.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 08, 2008, 05:07:31 PM
Peaceful, but I'd rather have a place where it doesn't take forever to go anywhere cool. I like being in town because it's easier to hang out with people, there's some stuff to do (much more if I was in a city), and I can go out and get food late at night and stuff. When you live out in the middle of nowhere, you can't do any of that. Maybe if all your friends lived in the middle of nowhere too, you could hang out with them, but since the population density is a lot lower in rural areas, that's much less likely.

I might not mind starting a family in more rural environments (personally, I'd still stick close to the town, if not live in town), but as a teenager/young adult, rural areas suck.

Oh, and I didn't mention anything about convenience for work and such. It's kinda hard to find a job if you live 30 or 40 minutes out of the closest town, isn't it? Hell, even living 10 or 20 minutes out by car is a pain if you don't own a reliable way of transporting yourself. I like being able to walk to work. Or anywhere else in town. Sure, it might take me an hour to walk all the way across town, but that's a worst case scenario, I'd rather not have to live far enough out that it would take nearly an hour just to walk into town.
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Post by: Sneaky on July 08, 2008, 06:12:50 PM
I live in the desert. D: central AZ isn't the best place to go hunting for these things, apparently. I've read a few trip reports and sounds like shrooms is the drug for me lol. I don't enjoy smoking, so pot's off the list, and anything with a needle = no. I like the idea of tripping under shrooms, like hallucinating, sensory boosts/colors and wild shit.

So if anyone knows A) a good reputable site to obtain them or B) any other info

would be appreciated ;o
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Post by: Spectere on July 08, 2008, 07:08:54 PM
I might not mind starting a family in more rural environments (personally, I'd still stick close to the town, if not live in town), but as a teenager/young adult, rural areas suck.

They do?  Then why would I like to live there?

Oh, and I didn't mention anything about convenience for work and such. It's kinda hard to find a job if you live 30 or 40 minutes out of the closest town, isn't it?

Um, most people have 1+ hour long commutes to go to work (and in some fields, like the job I used to work at, it didn't matter WHERE I lived, I still would have wound up driving the same distances).  I've seen people in rural areas that live closer to their workplace than people in the suburbs.  It doesn't depend on the type of land you're on, it depends on where you are.

Also, my dad's best friend lives in a more rural area and he has work fairly close to him and he works in the IT field.
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Post by: annon on July 08, 2008, 08:03:58 PM
If I ever do shrooms, I'm probably going to play/watch some of WinDEU's marathons in Stepmania.
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Post by: Spectere on July 08, 2008, 08:24:59 PM
Why do I get the feeling that lead to a very bad trip?
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Post by: Bobbias on July 08, 2008, 10:59:50 PM
Haha, yeah, that could be bad.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 08, 2008, 11:06:58 PM
I always wondered about people who live far away from everything. Like, when you're on a road trip somewhere on a freeway where there's like nothing but a factory and big hills, then you see this little house with a couple cars, and there's at least a half-hour drive to any sort of town. That's gotta suck :|

I've seen houses in the middle of cow fields about an hour from anywhere, that would be a pain. Really, my house is just in the back of a massive suburb that takes 15 minuets to drive out of, and it has 1 small shopping plaza "in it". Also, it has a small English bar next to a fire station and a park, all in a rural spot. It's not that bad, considering I've often gotten drunk on one of the many empty lots out here.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 08, 2008, 11:36:21 PM
I live in the desert. D: central AZ isn't the best place to go hunting for these things, apparently. I've read a few trip reports and sounds like shrooms is the drug for me lol. I don't enjoy smoking, so pot's off the list, and anything with a needle = no. I like the idea of tripping under shrooms, like hallucinating, sensory boosts/colors and wild shit.

So if anyone knows A) a good reputable site to obtain them or B) any other info

would be appreciated ;o

Mushrooms are definitely my drug of choice. And not in that 'drugz r cool' kind of way but more on a sentimental level. If you're with the right people (or by yourself) and in the right setting, it can be an extremely uplifting and amazing experience. I've tripped about eight times over the past couple years from small dosages to relatively large (well, the most I've taken at once was 10 grams), and have done a moderate amount of research about them, so I'd be happy to offer any info if I can. What I can tell you though is that before you do them, you have to be unflinchingly confident in your ability to handle it. Because seriously, tripping is like nothing you've ever experienced in your life. You've gotta be mentally AND physically healthy before you do them. Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that I'll never have a bad trip, and that's the very reason that I won't, you know what I mean?

As for where to get them, I wouldn't trust any website that sells them. Not only because they could be total crap and not worth the money, but psychedelic mushrooms are super illegal in the US and having them shipped right to you could be pretty unsafe.

Another thing that I should mention, if you do decide to trip, don't rush into it. Like seriously, if you acquire some mushrooms somehow, request at least a couple days off from work, if you're working, and make ABSOLUTELY sure you won't be interrupted by anyone who might disapprove. It's exciting when there are readily available mushies, but it's something that HAS to be planned out if you want anything close to a guaranteed good trip. It's just not worth the risk of doing them on a spur of the moment kinda thing.

Oh and if you don't like smoking pot, you can always eat it. It's a much mellower high anyway. The problem is the effort that goes into making something with weed into it. I suppose you could always just swallow a couple of nugs, but that sounds kinda... unpleasant.

If I ever do shrooms, I'm probably going to play/watch some of WinDEU's marathons in Stepmania.

You haven't played Stepmania if you haven't played it on mushrooms. And if you do, make sure you've got some really good headphones to make the experience that much more intense. It's fucking AMAZING. For me, it feels like I'm actually composing the music with each tap of my finger. And the whole time I'm not even paying attention to what's happening, it's almost 100% instinct and instead I'm just thinking about how incredible it is XD

Shit now I really want to do mushrooms..
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Post by: Sneaky on July 08, 2008, 11:48:50 PM
God dammit I need a source here D: fudge.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 09, 2008, 12:21:51 AM
There's gotta be someone in your area that can get hold of some :|
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Post by: Sneaky on July 09, 2008, 12:23:05 AM
problem being I don't know anyone :( or how to find that out.

Actually.. one of my ex's [im friends with her still] knows a guy that has everything BUT shrooms. Maybe he/she knows of someone who does.

Other than that I'm SoL for knowing people.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 09, 2008, 02:50:14 AM
Well if not mushrooms there's always acid. As far as (semi)synthetic drugs go, it's pretty harmless. Relatively cheap, too. Ten bucks worth of acid could probably get you a similar experience as about twenty bucks of shrooms. This totally depends on the quality of both, and the going rate in your area, obviously. Around here, I could get 3.5 grams of mushrooms for $15 or $20, and maybe two or three hits of acid for $10. Although the highs have their differences, they are both good ways to trip. LSD is also way easier to take than mushrooms because mushrooms are NASTY as fuck unless you like the taste of dirt and mold. Also, there are properties in shrooms that cause some people to vomit soon after they're taken which is a total waste :[

One way I discovered to take mushrooms if you really can't stand chewing them up is to grind them up in a coffee grinder and mix them in with peanut butter and make a PB&J sandwich. And grinding them up makes you come up quicker, too.
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Post by: annon on July 09, 2008, 03:30:10 AM
I had an opportunity to buy chocolates with shrooms inside, but I ended up not acting on it. :( Of course, this is due to me being clinically depressed and worried about a bad trip.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on July 09, 2008, 03:33:06 AM
Well good choice. Mental stability is a must. Although I might consider myself an exception, haha.
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Post by: annon on July 09, 2008, 03:36:24 AM
Also, I doubt WinDEU's marathons would cause me to have a bad trip because I really enjoy watching them.
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Post by: Sneaky on July 09, 2008, 03:42:31 AM
I'm pretty optimistic and happy most of the time, so I'm not worried about a bad trip, as long as I have the right amount for a good first dose or either shrooms or acid.

Smoking = no
needles = no
snorting/inhale = no

So I guess that leaves LSD and shrooms. which I am happy about. these drugs sound like they'll produce a nice trip that I'd actually enjoy. As opposed to pot which would just slow me down and such, which I don't like.

Psychedelics ftw. Now I just need a person to supply either to me. Although I'd like to try shrooms first because they're apparently more mellow (?)
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Post by: Bobbias on July 09, 2008, 02:19:02 PM
Smoking is honestly not that bad unless you're smoking cigarettes, lol. Most other drugs that you smoke don't really have that much of a chance to be bad for you in the ways that cigarettes are. Sure, you'll get a little tar and likely a little carbon monoxide, and 1 or 2 other things like that, but unless you smoke as much as a heavy smoker, tar is essentially harmless, and you could never smoke enough to die of carbon monoxide poisoning (carbon monoxide works by bonding blood cells like oxygen does, unfortunately, it doesn't unbind like oxygen, so your body is getting less oxygen in the blood).

As for eating weed: THC is lipid soluble, so anything made up of fat (for instance, butter) is able to absorb it. I wouldn't suggest really eating the buds straight up, because that just wouldn't be as enjoyable, and may actually be less effective as making weed butter, or something like that.

Personally, I'd like to try coke once. Normally, I could never snort anything, but that would be the one exception, simply because it's a very effective topical painkiller, which means that it is one of the few things that wouldn't actually hurt to snort. And I am confident that I am the kind of person who could  only do it once without too much of a problem.

So I guess that leaves LSD and shrooms.

You forgot Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca is a mixture drink made from a number of different plants that contain DMT as well as MAOI drugs that when combined allow DMT to be effective when taken orally (otherwise it must be injected or smoked). DMT is another (and considered one of the most, if not the most powerful) psychedelic. It's considered that not because you need as dose smaller than acid (which you don't) but because of how the trips feel. The visuals tend to have a lot of fractals and colorful things and such, at low to mid doses, but you can experience full on hallucinations at slightly higher doses. It's considered a rather harsh drug though. Partly because of the trip's feeling, and partly because of the fact that most people smoke it, and it's smoke smells and tastes like plastic, apparently.
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Post by: Zakamiro on July 12, 2008, 09:22:45 PM
Upgraded my screens from brass to steel. woo
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Post by: itsgravy on July 15, 2008, 02:55:16 PM
Friend of mine went and bought acid this weekend, something like 100 sheets.  Got a few for me and my friends to try for the first time and it didn't work.  Needless to say he was pissed that he blew so much money on what was probably broken up dayquil. 
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Post by: Bobbias on July 15, 2008, 09:28:17 PM
Wow... Who would honestly buy 100 sheets though, that's ridiculous.
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Post by: itsgravy on July 15, 2008, 09:50:26 PM
By 'friend' I mean awesome dealer. By 'awesome' I mean he delivers.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 15, 2008, 09:53:48 PM
Yeah, see, that is why when you buy something from someone, you should be sure that you're getting what you want.

Also, apparently one of the guys I work with was hanging out in one of the towns close by at night, and some guy offered him some E for his smokes. Him, being him, accepted the trade, lol. It was real E, lol.
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Post by: itsgravy on July 16, 2008, 08:13:39 AM
Around my college all the bars close at 1:30am except this one liquor store attached to a bar called 'Mallards' which is open til 2am.  I've been there 5 times and 4/5 times there's been a different sketch hobo-looking guy trying to sell me 'skittles' 'limestone' or 'juice'.  I never have any clue of what they're talking about but I always appreciate the offer and not being stabbed.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 16, 2008, 08:31:58 AM
Haha, nice. I wish there were liquor stores open that late here :/ Latest anything's open till here is 9. (bars excluded.)
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Post by: itsgravy on July 16, 2008, 09:20:24 AM
Reminds me of when I lived in Canada: America's top hat (I underlined it because it sounds like it could be the title of the next Schwarzenegger flick).  Nice place but unless you're close to a city you better hope you plan EVERYTHING before 8pm because Canadia closes after 9. 

Also (in Montreal at least) every pack or cigarettes has an advertisement on the front for an anti-smoking company.  I still have the one with a picture of a baby that says "CIGARETTES KILL BABIES".
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 18, 2008, 01:31:20 AM
Well if not mushrooms there's always acid. As far as (semi)synthetic drugs go, it's pretty harmless.

My sister OD'd on acid. Also I'm thinking of going shroom hunting with a friend, from what I've heard it's a much mellower experience then salvia, which sounds fun.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 18, 2008, 02:42:18 AM
Reminds me of when I lived in Canada: America's top hat (I underlined it because it sounds like it could be the title of the next Schwarzenegger flick).  Nice place but unless you're close to a city you better hope you plan EVERYTHING before 8pm because Canadia closes after 9. 

Also (in Montreal at least) every pack or cigarettes has an advertisement on the front for an anti-smoking company.  I still have the one with a picture of a baby that says "CIGARETTES KILL BABIES".

I live in canada. Yes, most places are pretty shitty after 9. My town included. At least the bars don't close till between midnight and 2, depending on the night.

And it's not advertisement, it's a government required program. All cigarettes need to have anti-smoking stuff on them. It's part of the government's way of trying to scare people off new users and expose how much of a health risk cigarettes are. According to wikipedia there are 599 approved additives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes) in cigarettes manufactured by the 5 major tobacco companies (this info only applies to american cigarettes). None of which were tested by burning. Not to mention the 4000 compounds created by burning those 599 base chemicals.

And yes, I do in fact smoke (a little). I smoke the occasional small cigar (such as Capitan Black's).

My sister OD'd on acid.

Uhh, it's physically impossible to OD on acid normally. The only known actual instance of this is a guy that injected himself with something like 2 grams of acid intravenously.
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Post by: itsgravy on July 18, 2008, 08:36:29 AM
Canadia
Canada is a fun place. 
   

When I go up to see my family, we play this game called "guess who's American"; you can pick them out of a crowd by just looking for people wearing hoodies. 
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Post by: Bobbias on July 18, 2008, 10:06:41 AM
Heh, yeah, Americans are always complaining about the cold :P

I couldn't stand having 21 as the drinking age. I mean, the way I see it, it should be 18 in Ontario, too. Hell, If I'm old enough to vote on who runs my country, i should damn well be old enough to get drunk.
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Post by: annon on July 19, 2008, 01:13:39 AM
I remember how awesome it was being able to order a pint of Heineken in Europe any time, and how crappy it was not being able to when I got back home.
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Post by: OmegaOmni on July 19, 2008, 02:02:29 AM
About the cold:
I am mostly European descent so I like the cold.

Drinking age in America:
Bullshit.  If you can vote and be sent off to war, a drink would kick ass.
Besides the 21 age limit is there to make sure "kids" don't start drinking and are safe.  Here's the thing, make something forbidden people will break the law to do it. 

Trust me I started drinking when I was 18 but even then I was smart about it and still am today.  Besides limited yourself to how much you drink is a good idea and works with practice.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 19, 2008, 02:14:02 AM
And yes, I do in fact smoke (a little). I smoke the occasional small cigar (such as Capitan Black's).

Uhh, it's physically impossible to OD on acid normally. The only known actual instance of this is a guy that injected himself with something like 2 grams of acid intravenously.

Hey, my sister did, but it might have been acid plus something else. Also I just took a few hits and drank 2 big cans of fosters bitter beer and I feel pretty buzzed.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 19, 2008, 08:54:19 AM
Yeah, it would have to be something else, because the average small dose is around 150-250 micrograms, or so, and the average large dose is about 500 micrograms. IIRC most acid blotter papers have 100 micrograms per hit. Think about this, a microgram is a millionth of a gram, so that's 2,000,000 micrograms of acid it would take, probably even more, since that dose was intravenous, and acid blotters aren't.

So she'd pretty much have had to have eaten quite a few full papers.

Oh, and if you mean "had a very bad trip because she too way too much" that's not ODing. That's just taking a bit too much.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 19, 2008, 02:47:34 PM
Oh, and if you mean "had a very bad trip because she too way too much" that's not ODing. That's just taking a bit too much.

She had a seizure and had to be taken to the hospital, I'd consider that an OD. Then again the term is somewhat loose.
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Post by: Shoop Da Whoop on July 19, 2008, 03:33:31 PM
I win because I saw someone actually OD on Acid. At an outdoor rave some crazy guy decided that he would lay down and have 2 buckets full of acid poured all over him. Once they filled his mouth full of pure liquid acid, they continued to pour it all over his body. They didn't rush this part, they got a decent amount of the actual liquid to stay on him. Of course an hour later this fool cannot even move and he got to chill with the paramedics the rest of the rave. PERMAFRY GET
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Post by: Bobbias on July 19, 2008, 05:30:16 PM
I'd still not really consider that an OD. Psychedelic drugs DRASTICALLY decrease your seizure threshold. Which means that even normal people can have seizures pretty easily on it. I am perfectly normal, however, on acid, I could possibly have a seizure. Even in a normal trip. If someone was at risk for seizures before (not everyone at risk has seizures normally, and just because there might be no history, that stil doesn't mean you might not be at risk), they could very easily have a seizure on even a low dose of acid, or other psychedelics. Even marijuana increases your risk of seizures.

Also, why the fuck would someone waste that much acid? That bucket was probably worth thousands of dollars if it was liquid acid at anywhere near a decent concentration (considering 250-500 micrograms is the general dose range, and a bucket holds quite a bit more than a couple milligrams, last I checked.

And if you guys don't get the micrograms and such, let's put it this way: 1 ounce is 28.35 grams, and 1 microgram is 1 microgram = 3.52739619
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Post by: OmegaOmni on July 21, 2008, 03:12:00 AM
I'll stick with alcohol only because I have control over how much I intake.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 21, 2008, 07:59:01 AM
To be honestly, out of the drugs out there, Acid is one of the most regulated and least tampered with in the market. It's like that because it's so hard to actually produce and the people who do make it would make no money if they ended up cutting it with other shit or lacing it with things because they'd lose the small bit of market they actually have. It's not like E, where so many people buy it that it doesn't matter if it gets cut with dangerous shit, because people are stupid, and there will always be someone else looking for E.
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Post by: TimJing on July 26, 2008, 01:58:01 AM
I like you guys.

Also, my mom didn't want her sample of AmBien CR, so I took it, popped one in ten minutes ago... starting to feel a little crazy. Was gonna record how long I last but... nah.
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Post by: itsgravy on July 28, 2008, 01:49:56 PM
I quit cigarettes three days ago.  Been smoking for 4 years (started when I was 15) and I quit cold turkey, I think I'm out of the deep end for now.  However, I'll never stop drinking or smoking weed; I love it too much :)
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Post by: Bobbias on July 28, 2008, 03:23:30 PM
Nice, apparently every day is easier than the last. That, and I think I heard people saying that day 4 or so was the hardest day.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 28, 2008, 04:20:41 PM
So I just took a nap, and found about 5 or 6 presents in the living room for me. Which is odd considering I didn't ask for anything. Hopefully I'll be using the new PC.
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Post by: itsgravy on July 28, 2008, 04:40:07 PM
Do your parents just wrap up gifts and hide them under a tree in July?  Cause that's soo badass
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Post by: Nekros on July 28, 2008, 10:36:21 PM
I wish my parents you do that. I could use something to drink when I come home after work.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 29, 2008, 12:53:21 AM
Do your parents just wrap up gifts and hide them under a tree in July?  Cause that's soo badass


Nah, it's my birthday today, and it surprised me because I didn't ask for anything. Also wrong thread.
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Post by: itsgravy on July 30, 2008, 09:03:48 AM
Nah, it's my birthday today, and it surprised me because I didn't ask for anything. Also wrong thread.

Ah ic.  Just assumed you were on drugs or something ;)
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Post by: TimJing on August 07, 2008, 10:30:49 PM
So I tried pot with my sister last night. It was pretty lame. Either it's way glamorized or I did something wrong :x

Probably doesn't help that I have asthma, and I was wheezing the rest of the night. Smoking anything kinda scares me to begin with.
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Post by: Jupi on August 07, 2008, 10:35:25 PM
Probably more of the latter, yeah.  :D
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Post by: OmegaOmni on August 07, 2008, 10:46:37 PM
Being a chem major I have several co-workers who want me to make "X".

Guess what tough shit for them.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on August 07, 2008, 10:52:52 PM
So I tried pot with my sister last night. It was pretty lame. Either it's way glamorized or I did something wrong :x

Probably doesn't help that I have asthma, and I was wheezing the rest of the night. Smoking anything kinda scares me to begin with.

You might not have been holding a carb, or it could have been week weed. I've also heard of people not getting high their first time, so that's all possible. Also yes, asthma + smoking doesn't seem that great.

Being a chem major I have several co-workers who want me to make "X".

Guess what tough shit for them.

Do meth instead, much more profit.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: OmegaOmni on August 07, 2008, 10:58:31 PM
Eh still not a good idea law wise.

I wouldn't mind trying weed considering you need to smoke 10% of your body weight in order to OD.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on August 07, 2008, 11:16:39 PM
Which would be physically impossible, under normal circumstances. You would pass out LONG before you smoked that much.

Also, weed is somewhat glamorized, but remember, some people don't get much of an effect the first time.

Also, weed is actually pretty good for asthma, it dilates the bronchial passages, whereas smoking cigarettes causes damage and causes them to shrink. Smoking weed actually helps some asthmatic people because of that. However, due to not being used to inhaling smoke, you were probably choking like most new smokers do. I can tell you that LOTS of people choke smoking weed. For me, it's pretty much a given that I need a drink with me (pop, or anything really) when I smoke, because I will choke. If you didn't have a drink with you, if you try it again, make sure to have one.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: OmegaOmni on August 07, 2008, 11:27:13 PM
Thanks for the tip Bobbias.

Yeah I know it's glamorized like you said but I still want to try it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on August 07, 2008, 11:37:19 PM
I found it was a nice experience. Of course, I was lucky enough to get beyond completely baked my first time, lol. I couldn't even keep a conversation.

But yeah, it's not for everyone, but I still think it's a nice experience if you don't get paranoid or some stupid shit like that and have a bad time.

But honestly, I think that anyone who hasn't tried drugs cannot possibly say anything about them other than scientific facts. I don't believe that anyone telling me "weed is bad" understands the drug in the lightest. Unfortunately, the problem with weed is the same problem with many MANY other things: A couple retards wrecked it for everyone else.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: OmegaOmni on August 07, 2008, 11:42:00 PM
Yeah I know.

If the US would actually have a federal law to allow Medicinal Weed for those on Kemo...I would vote yes in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on August 08, 2008, 12:03:32 AM
Yeah I know.

If the US would actually have a federal law to allow Medicinal Weed for those on Kemo...I would vote yes in a heart beat.

california, son.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on August 08, 2008, 12:08:30 AM
Oh yeah, one of the other effects (aside from being a rather effective pain killer) is the reduction of nausea.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on August 09, 2008, 02:18:44 AM
So Fosters is awesome. I like the fact that it's strong, it comes in a huge can, and it doesn't taste bad at all. Also my friends friend is rather cute and awesome, hopefully she's single and I see her some more.

Also that new watchmen movie looks awesome.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on August 10, 2008, 02:39:12 AM
Call me a pussy or what-have-you, but I love Arbor Mist. It's delicious! And doesn't taste like the ass that actual wine tastes like.

And I saw the Dark Knight yesterday, pretty darn good but confusing as hell.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on August 10, 2008, 06:00:13 PM
Have you had any actually good wine? There are so many different types of wine, and everyone has their own tastes. If you don't like a couple types of wine, it doesn't mean all of it is bad.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on August 10, 2008, 06:10:04 PM
Have you had any actually good wine? There are so many different types of wine, and everyone has their own tastes. If you don't like a couple types of wine, it doesn't mean all of it is bad.

I've yet to have a wine I like. Really, it just all taste nasty to me.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on August 10, 2008, 10:08:44 PM
I've yet to have a wine I like. Really, it just all taste nasty to me.

Yeah, ditto. I've tried quite a few kinds, and I've never tasted one I've even remotely liked.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: OmegaOmni on August 10, 2008, 11:54:28 PM
I tried a White Russian last night...good shit

Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on August 11, 2008, 12:55:36 AM
Looking at your avatar, Omega, I'm going out on a limb and saying that the new mountain dew Voltage is an addictive drug (it's amazingly delicious! i can't stop drinking it when i get ahold of some, or a 12-pack...)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on August 11, 2008, 08:29:46 AM
Yeah, ditto. I've tried quite a few kinds, and I've never tasted one I've even remotely liked.

Well, next time you try some, try to make sure it's on the sweeter end of the scale. Most dedicated wine selling places, or anywhere that stocks a decent selection of wines probably has someone that can help you find something more to your taste, if you walk to them and explain things. If they don't, avoid dry wines, as the term dry means that they are less sweet.

If you want something that actually tastes a bit more like grape, if you haven't already, try some Naked Grape wine. Those wines are unoaked, which means they were never stored in an oak barrel, and therefore keep a lot more of their original grape flavour.
If you want a very sweet wine, try Ice Wine. However, that stuff is extremely expensive. We tried a small tester bottle between my friends to taste the stuff and the little bottle cost $8. A full bottle costs $60+. But honestly, it's well worth the price.

However, wine isn't for everyone. Some people will never like it, just like any other alcoholic beverage.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on August 12, 2008, 12:18:19 AM
Actually at my girlfriend's house her parents had this... passion fruit wine? I think it was. Something exotic. Anyway, it was delicious. And very sweet. So yeah, I'm sure I can find a wine I like, a very sweet, not dry one, once I'm old enough to legally go to a place and test different wines.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on August 12, 2008, 08:54:40 AM
Yeah, I've had some flavored wine like that. Nothing that exotic, but that stuff tends to be pretty good. Passion fruit is fucking good, too.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zakamiro on August 12, 2008, 07:22:20 PM
I'm actually starting to ferment my own wine. I've been reading up on winemaking online, and have decided to make my own. I've purchased some mangos, strawberries, tamarind, and kiwis. The tamarind isn't too sweet on its own, in fact it's quite tart yet bitter. It tastes extremely lovely when sweetened, which is why I've picked the strawberries and kiwis. I hope to get a very curious sweet taste that isn't like mixing hot dog condiments.

I might have to scrape out the meat/pulp from around the seed of the tamarind and make it into a tea to add to the fruit juice. Only snag I foresee is whether or not my local stores have the right yeasts and yeast nutrients I need.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on August 13, 2008, 06:55:24 AM
Heh, nice, if you make some, it's be wicked if you could ship some to me (I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be any problems with that).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on September 21, 2008, 09:31:06 PM
Bump for revival, but my friend had a small kegger (well, the group of people was small for a single keg and a party ball). I got stoned before I went and then I got drunk, which is something I haven't done in a long, long time. Long story short, it was a fun night. Got way too drunk and was hung over all the next day, but I saw a few of my college buddies and some people I've been meaning to hang with, so it was a mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on September 21, 2008, 09:48:03 PM
Hell, the way I see it if you're willing to drink, you better be willing to be hung over. I got my G2 license VERY hung over :P
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on September 21, 2008, 09:52:28 PM
I RARELY get hung over. Unless I black out drunk, which is the odd part.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on September 21, 2008, 10:22:36 PM
How is that odd? Blacking out generally means you've likely had more than your body can handle. Though there's no real proof of what exactly causes hangovers, it's a safe bet that more than one thing contributes to them, including dehydration, and Acetaldehyde, which is a metabolite of ethanol (alcohol), produced by an enzyme in your liver.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on October 02, 2008, 04:31:30 PM
So, apparently my mom smokes hash oil.

I happened to find some left over stuff, and tried it. Wasn't much at all, but after 2+ years of not smoking, it certainly doesn't take much to start feeling something :P Ended up putting it on the end of my Colt Black Cherry cigar... Couldn't even taste it and didn't know if there'd be any effect until I started feeling it.

Also, holy crap, I can't believe this thread is 40 pages. I didn't realize it was this long.

Also, my girlfriend is now 19 (as of exactly 1 month ago). It's gonna be awesome when we have time to actually go to the Cellermans pub downtown and she'll be able to actually hang out with my friends and I there.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on October 02, 2008, 10:56:11 PM
Also, holy crap, I can't believe this thread is 40 pages. I didn't realize it was this long.

That's 'cause you guys are a bunch of hippie pothead freaks. 8)

j/k, lurve u all and stuff
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: OmegaOmni on October 02, 2008, 10:58:13 PM
That's 'cause you guys are a bunch of hippie pothead freaks. 8)

j/k, lurve u all and stuff

Lies LIES LIES!!!

OOOooo cake! *nom* <3
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on January 25, 2009, 01:43:34 AM
Holy shit. So I found this site because I was looking for a resource to tell me just how addictive meth was (which I was curious about after seeing some of the "not even once" commercials).

http://mfiles.org/Marijuana/Overview/index.htm

Quote
Of those who try marijuana at least once, nearly one in ten become dependent

That's the most quotable line out of this page.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 25, 2009, 02:00:55 AM
On di.fm's board, they had a poll about what the most addictive drug is, and meth was the top one. di.fm's board has a LOT of people who've done a lot of drugs.

I've seen posts about heroin, shrooms, acid, right through to stuff like robo and even nutmeg.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 25, 2009, 03:31:23 AM
nutmeg.

LOL WUT?

Also that website is 100% bullshit. Sorry, but pot has no physically addictive properties.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: 『フエハデ』 on January 25, 2009, 07:08:51 AM
LOL WUT?

Also that website is 100% bullshit. Sorry, but pot has no physically addictive properties.

It's sure good that there's no such thing as a mental addiction, eh?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on January 25, 2009, 07:12:47 AM
Also that website is 100% bullshit. Sorry, but pot has no physically addictive properties.

I know. The addiction is completely psychological. Doesn't stop bullshit like that from spreading, though. People who say they're addicted to weed are like people who say they're addicted to gum or WoW or something.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 25, 2009, 07:21:53 AM
It's sure good that there's no such thing as a mental addiction, eh?

physically addictive

And yes, it has been scientifically proven that pot has no physical addictive properties. Furthermore, the idea that pot kills your memory is flawed.

While pot does cause programmed cell death, that is not the same as something that kills healthy cells through toxicity. Programmed cell death is the method that your brain uses to keep your cell density in your brain at the proper level. If you brain is becoming too dense, it triggers programmed cell death. Pot activates 2 main receptors in your brain, and the B receptor (IIRC) has been linked to programmed cell death, while the A receptor has been linked with a number of the positive medicinal effects, such as relieving nausea, stimulating the appetite.

If you're gonna do any research about drugs, make sure the site is one of the FEW sites that is actually reliable. Wikipedia (thanks to their policy of requiring citations/references) is one of the few I would consider trustworthy. I would also consider Erowid.org trustworthy, despite the apparent pro-drug bias. The site contains tons of useful information, as well as all sorts of written accounts of experiences, FAQs, chemical information and dose info.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: infamouspat on February 11, 2009, 09:29:16 PM
loldrugs

so now i'm on Prednisone for a case of HSP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henoch-Sch%C3%B6nlein_purpura), 80mg every morning

Kind of wondering if anyone else has had an experience with the drug and if these stupid online drug testimonies are really written by total hypochondriacs who need a psychologist more than a medical doctor.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on February 14, 2009, 10:45:50 PM
so now i'm on Prednisone for a case of HSP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henoch-Sch%C3%B6nlein_purpura), 80mg every morning

Dang. :( I hope that clears up soon.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on February 16, 2009, 09:15:31 PM
I just got a text from one of my friends that said "Fuck my life." I asked about it and apparently word spread about us having smoked weed over break. He said his mom called my mom about it, and he said the conversation was "not bad, but not good." they apparently got off the phone about 20 minutes ago, and I expected a call from my mom, but she hasn't called me. I'm guessing she already knew I smoked, not because she found anything (there was nothing to be found any opportunity she would've had) but because I've openly condoned weed for a while now, before I'd even started, and I've clarified more than a few misconceptions my mom had had about it. Even though I never explicitly said I smoked, I'm sure she inferred it. This is interesting.

EDIT: So she just called me. She wasn't mad, but she sounded a bit shocked. I didn't deny that I had smoked, gave her examples of how it could've been worse, and told her that it was essentially a recreational activity comparable to playing video games. She was worried about us getting caught and whatnot, and I told her that we were smart about it and she didn't need to worry. She was still a bit upset, but she didn't overreact at all.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on February 20, 2009, 01:51:06 PM
My tolerance to weed has spiked over the past few weeks. It's gotten to a point where I can smoke all I want and feel only slightly buzzed, and then completely sober 15 to 30 minutes later. I don't remember the last time I was REALLY high, which, considering how much I smoke these days, is very odd.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 20, 2009, 02:39:29 PM
Sounds horrific. I never understood how someone could smoke weed to that point. So what spiked this interest in pot, I thought you didn;t do the stuff that often in favor of hallucinogens.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 20, 2009, 05:00:50 PM
My tolerance to weed has spiked over the past few weeks. It's gotten to a point where I can smoke all I want and feel only slightly buzzed, and then completely sober 15 to 30 minutes later. I don't remember the last time I was REALLY high, which, considering how much I smoke these days, is very odd.

That blows, ever try a popper? (using tobacco to keep the weed held up till you burn it all, then hauling it all through the slide into the bong itself). Those tend to get me right fucked faster than anything else.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on February 22, 2009, 12:04:25 AM
Well I do enjoy hallucinogens a lot more, but they aren't something I would do casually. I've been smoking weed every day for the past year at least (aside from those few random days when it just wasn't available or whatever) and semi-frequently before that. I've also only ever smoked really chronic stuff. I smoked shitty weed once and the difference was ridiculous. I just happened to be lucky and make friends with people who have really good sources. In fact, two of my roommates deal XD

BUT YES it is pretty shitty. I almost feel bad smoking other people's weed because at a certain point it's just being wasted on me. The other night a few of my roommates and I smoked three or four large bowls out of various instruments, a blunt, a joint, and then another bowl with some hash thrown on top within about a half-hour. I got as high as my body would let me (which wasn't very at all) after the first bowl, and even after all the rest it didn't change whatsoever, and then twenty minutes after we were done smoking I was sobered up. It's been getting really bad the past week. I need to take a break :|
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 22, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
Yeah, usually taking a break will let your body come back to normal so you can get stoned again. However, to get back to complete "normal" status, it takes something like 4 months of not smoking.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on February 27, 2009, 02:37:59 AM
I've only smoked like 4 times now, but last time I did it, uhh... I got baked out of my mind.

Me and my sister rode our bikes at some time past midnight to the park to smoke a joint she brought from her house.

One joint. And I took maybe 7 or 8 puffs of it? And then I think I blacked out for like 10 seconds, and when I "came to", I was in another dimension, watching myself and constantly trying to figure out what was going on. According to my sister I used a lot of percentages to describe things, and I don't really remember much else, just, we had to walk the bikes out of the park cause I couldn't ride...

It was something called a White Widow from what I gather. Anyway it was pretty neat.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on February 27, 2009, 04:30:11 AM
Haha awesome :D White Widow is some good stuff.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 27, 2009, 04:46:56 AM
That sounds like me after smoking Salvia, intense stuff.

Also related to an old old discussion me and bobbies had about a supposied acid overdose my sister went through. It was the medication she was on that had a really nasty negative effect on what she took and almost killed her, or at least wacked her out pretty bad.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on February 27, 2009, 11:59:30 AM
There's a limit to how high I can get. Whenever I smoke, it's either sharing a bowl or 2 with 4 or 5 other people, or across the street from the campus by myself. I can't get completely baked alone because it's a busy 4-way street, and I can't get baked when we're sharing because it takes at least one full bowl to get me as high as the rest of them. I can't wait until I can live off-campus.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: TimJing on February 27, 2009, 11:38:30 PM
Do you have machines that smell smoke in your dorms?

My sister gave me a highlighter that's hollowed out, and it has a marijuana smoking device inside of it. I don't know what it's called though.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on February 28, 2009, 02:20:56 AM
There are smoke detectors, but that's remedied by just smoking next to a fan and an open window. Still, I'd like to have more freedom as to when and where I can smoke.

Also, I just smoked my first cigarette. I didn't feel anything, not even the smoke going into my lungs.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 28, 2009, 12:17:07 PM
Yeah, I've never gotten anything out of cigarettes. MAYBE if they cost less, but damn.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 28, 2009, 05:24:40 PM
That sounds like me after smoking Salvia, intense stuff.

Also related to an old old discussion me and bobbies had about a supposied acid overdose my sister went through. It was the medication she was on that had a really nasty negative effect on what she took and almost killed her, or at least wacked her out pretty bad.

Yeah, that definitely sounds right. I'm happy that she didn't die though.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on February 28, 2009, 08:00:45 PM
Also, I just smoked my first cigarette. I didn't feel anything, not even the smoke going into my lungs.

Meh, don't even start that.  Nicotine is addictive beyond belief.

Not to mention that cigarettes are expensive as hell. :s
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on February 28, 2009, 10:41:14 PM
I just wanted to firsthand see what the appeal was. I hear some people say it helps them feel relaxed, but I didn't feel that. I didn't even know I'd inhaled any smoke until I exhaled. Then again, I've found that stimulants don't affect me as strongly as they do most people (caffeine doesn't keep me awake at all).

Funnily enough, the antidepressant I take (bupropion) is commonly prescribed to moderate smokers who are trying to quit.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 01, 2009, 04:17:39 AM
Which would help explain why you didn't feel squat from smoking, on top of the other reasons.

I've found that smoking does relax me, but that could be psychological, since most of the time, I only smoke when I'm drinking (except for the odd mini cigar, but I'm too poor for those now).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on March 01, 2009, 04:09:38 PM
Then again, I've found that stimulants don't affect me as strongly as they do most people (caffeine doesn't keep me awake at all).

Same here. Unless it's a really sugary drink, then it's only short lived.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on March 05, 2009, 03:36:10 AM
I just weed-burped. I haven't smoked in over 3 weeks. wut
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 05, 2009, 12:26:36 PM
Haha, nice stuff. Weed-burping is always fun :P
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on March 06, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
I recently went and smoked a bowl on my break at work, and when I came back, I was talking to a coworker (who is one of the few there who doesn't approve of smoking weed) and right as she turned around, I let out a belch without thinking and a decent sized puff of smoke came out. She wouldn't have been able to do anything if she saw it but it was still funny.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 06, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
Haha, nice one.

Man, now I wish I had a contact. I only get weed occasionally when my GF's friends want to hang out and smoke at her place (because it's the only place they can). But they live 45+ minutes away most of the time and I can't usually get anything other than when they're smoking at my GF's place.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 07, 2009, 04:42:54 AM
So, I just walked home from a friend's place after drinking, it took twice as long as usual. I let shortly after 3 AM, and got home at 4:30... I must be seriously drunk... I can hardly type, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on March 07, 2009, 05:50:44 PM
Wow, I JUST got home from a friends birthday party and I'm fairly drunk myself. Ugh, sucks being drunk and around your parents, not a great combination.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on March 23, 2009, 03:36:52 AM
So last week, before going on the Florida trip, me and a couple of friends got high. We put the weed in a tin that's usually empty and just sitting around my room, basically hiding it in plain sight. That was Sunday, and me and my family left for Florida the next morning. The maid came on Tuesday while no one else was in the house. When I got back from the trip that Friday, we were going to smoke the rest of the weed, but it wasn't in the tin anymore. It had been replaced by some spare Rubik's cube parts that were lying around my room. My maid stole my friend's weed.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on March 24, 2009, 06:36:07 AM
Tell her if she ever goes in your room again you'll get the INS on her
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 12, 2009, 10:06:54 AM
So I just smoked the last of a pack of Camels I bought about 3 weeks ago (I don't see how some people find the time to smoke a pack or more in a day). I'm fairly certain that cigarette I smoked a while ago was a light, which is why I didn't feel anything. I'm now pretty meh about cigarettes. They're ok, but I don't think the benefits really outweigh the detriments. Dunno if I'm going to buy another pack anytime soon, if ever.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 12, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
Well, as mentioned before, the only tobacco I smoke is cigarillos. I don't like cigarettes because they don't taste good, don't really do anything good for you, and aren't exactly good for you anyway. Honestly, if I'm gonna smoke something, I'd much rather get something from it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 08, 2009, 01:10:19 AM
So, I drank a small bottle of robitussin earlier today. I have a rather bad cough, and nothing else worked, so we decided that since I was gonna see a movie, I didn't want to cough through the whole thing, so we'd buy a bottle of cough syrup and see if it helped. It did. It was a 100 ml bottle, and with 15 mg of DXM per 5ml, that adds up to enough DXM (300 mg) to get me decently stoned.

No visual distortions, but a definite stoned that lasted for around 5 hours, start to finish. However, I wouldn't suggest watching a movie, especially one that require much thinking or following a deep plot. I watched Public Enemies with a couple friends, and I could, re-watch the movie right now and learn things I missed. I had some pretty severe tunnel vision, which made reading hard, and I believe that my hearing was a bit bad, thanks to it for a while, because talking after the movie, I noticed a distinct diminishing in hearing.

And coming down from it was awesome. I felt sorta light headed. In fact, my whole body felt light, and I felt like I had tons of energy.

I'm definitely gonna have to do this again.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Nekros on July 08, 2009, 07:34:55 PM
That explains everything now bobbias
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on July 13, 2009, 12:31:22 PM
I'm in Amsterdam. They sell these hash lollipops for a euro or 6 for 5, so me and my sister bought 6. I tried one of them. It was like I'd taken a few hits from a bowl, but not enough to get me really stoned. It was really cool.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 13, 2009, 02:07:36 PM
Fucking nice. God, I wish I could go there.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 13, 2009, 02:10:21 PM
Wait....how is that possible?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on July 15, 2009, 07:04:30 PM
So, I drank a small bottle of robitussin earlier today. I have a rather bad cough, and nothing else worked, so we decided that since I was gonna see a movie, I didn't want to cough through the whole thing, so we'd buy a bottle of cough syrup and see if it helped. It did. It was a 100 ml bottle, and with 15 mg of DXM per 5ml, that adds up to enough DXM (300 mg) to get me decently stoned.

No visual distortions, but a definite stoned that lasted for around 5 hours, start to finish. However, I wouldn't suggest watching a movie, especially one that require much thinking or following a deep plot. I watched Public Enemies with a couple friends, and I could, re-watch the movie right now and learn things I missed. I had some pretty severe tunnel vision, which made reading hard, and I believe that my hearing was a bit bad, thanks to it for a while, because talking after the movie, I noticed a distinct diminishing in hearing.

And coming down from it was awesome. I felt sorta light headed. In fact, my whole body felt light, and I felt like I had tons of energy.

I'm definitely gonna have to do this again.

Fuckin' yes. DXM is badass. I'd suggest snaggin' a Zicam Cough Max next time, those things may taste like anus, but they work really well, and 400mg is definately enough to put anyone into a middle-second plateau dose, which is the most fun, in my opinion. Also DXM doesn't tend to do major visual distortions with your eyes open until you get to pretty crazy doses (~600mg, I've only done that once or twice), it's all CEV's. Smoke some weed next time, it's probably the best drug combination I've ever found. Weed+DXM is so awesome it's not even funny.

Also @annon - Jealous :(
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 15, 2009, 08:49:32 PM
Never heard of Zicam Cough Max.... But yeah, I'll definitely try for a bigger bottle next time. Unfortunately, I'm rather poor at the moment, so until I get some money, I'm not likely going to be doing any more DXM. Most of the Weed I get is from other people who happen to have some, and want to smoke.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 15, 2009, 11:31:05 PM
Anyone know anything about Roxis? My friend has been buying them and apparently doing them more then he has recently. In fact he's going to buy some now and I told him I wasn't going with him if he was going to buy them.
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Post by: Bobbias on July 16, 2009, 01:05:03 AM
Roxies can either mean Research chemicals similar to the DMT family. It can also mean Roxicodone. Roxicodone is an opiate. In fact, Roxicodone is the brand name of Oxycodone.

Erowid and Wikipedia are great resources for info on Oxycodone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxicodone
http://www.erowid.org/pharms/oxycodone/oxycodone.shtml
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Post by: annon on July 16, 2009, 04:32:30 AM
Wait....how is that possible?

I guess they use natural flavoring and don't leave out the THC. There were also THC-free ones. I'll post a picture later.
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Post by: Ulti on July 16, 2009, 05:32:35 AM
Never heard of Zicam Cough Max.... But yeah, I'll definitely try for a bigger bottle next time. Unfortunately, I'm rather poor at the moment, so until I get some money, I'm not likely going to be doing any more DXM. Most of the Weed I get is from other people who happen to have some, and want to smoke.

Go ask /dis/ on 420chan, they know far too much about DXM.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on July 16, 2009, 11:10:31 AM
i love weed

i love alcohol

i love sex
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Post by: Nekros on July 16, 2009, 06:15:11 PM
i love weed

i love alcohol

i love sex

agreed

i also love tobacco
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 16, 2009, 06:38:41 PM
Go ask /dis/ on 420chan, they know far too much about DXM.

I don't need to know anything more. The only thing I might want to check there is find out which brands have extra sweetening agents or coloring that people report making them sick, and even that, i should be able to avoid just by reading the ingredients. I know enough about DXM to be pretty safe. I don't remember all the plateau doses off the top of my head, but there's erowid for that.
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Post by: Ulti on July 16, 2009, 07:50:03 PM
Yeah, the DXM Faq, which is hosted on Erowid IIRC, is what they're all going to refer you to anyways. I'm going to dex tonight for the first time in a while, doing a 5oz Delsym, which would pretty much equate to a 12-hour upper-second plateau dose. Shit is extreme. D:
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 19, 2009, 10:32:34 PM
I drank more then I atre over the last week. Shit was fun.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on July 27, 2009, 02:27:52 AM
So... I've got 7 plants in my basement now. >:D
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Post by: annon on July 27, 2009, 02:30:25 AM
Next time I go to Amsterdam, I'm getting some seeds and mailing them home.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 27, 2009, 02:40:45 AM
I drank more then I atre over the last week. Shit was fun.

That's supposed to be "Drank more then I ate".
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Post by: Ulti on July 27, 2009, 02:53:43 AM
Couldn't you just order them from BC? That's where my friend got his, and I'm growing the clones from his plants. :s
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Post by: annon on July 27, 2009, 03:59:35 AM
Couldn't you just order them from BC? That's where my friend got his, and I'm growing the clones from his plants. :s

I wasn't sure I could actually do that. I'll look into it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 14, 2009, 03:49:16 PM
Did everyone stop doing drugs or what?

On my friend's birthday a couple weeks ago, I rolled him a bunch of joints (from his weed, as per his instructions) and we had 14 people all with their own joint at once. It was a pretty awesome event.

And I also hope to acquire an ounce of some good shake for $60 pretty soon :D
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 15, 2009, 03:27:31 AM
You haven't read the "intoxicated replies thread" yet, have you?

This thread kinda died, and we just talked about everything in that one.

As a side note, that is the most badass thing I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on December 15, 2009, 05:16:58 PM
Oh I seeee

Okay well I think I can migrate over thurr then.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 16, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
I tried acid a few times since I last posted here, that was p badass. :v
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 16, 2009, 08:17:58 PM
Lucky fucker. I have no fucking idea where I might get acid around here :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 19, 2009, 02:49:54 AM
It's goddamn impossible to find just about anywhere, I was looking for two years before I was able to track some down, and it was only because one of my friends gave me a couple hits. ;_;
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 19, 2009, 11:36:15 AM
Either way, lucky bastard. How was it? What were the trips like?
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 19, 2009, 03:11:09 PM
Ugh, I got home last night at around sun rise right while my parents were leaving for work. My friend passed out on this girls couch, and then when he woke up he vomited on himself and then passed out again. Eventually we got him up, cleaned up, and in his car.

Outside of that, Guinness + Crown and Coke is a good time.
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Post by: Ulti on December 19, 2009, 05:21:48 PM
Either way, lucky bastard. How was it? What were the trips like?

It's like mushrooms, except it lasts like three times as long, and didn't seem to make me as prone to mood swings as mushrooms often do, which was nice. The visuals were similar, but the acid ones had a slightly different feel to them, I can't really explain it, but they were pretty comparable in terms of general appearance. I highly recommend it if you like shrooms, odds are you'll probably like acid more.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 20, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Never gotten to do shrooms, either :/ Though I'll chalk that one up to my bad luck.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on December 20, 2009, 08:36:56 PM
Ah well, then it's going to be kind of hard to put up a good frame of reference. I highly recommend tracking one or the other down though, at least in my area people who are into weed tend to do mushrooms at least occasionally as well, and you can usually find someone who sells them if you ask your weed guy.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 20, 2009, 11:50:20 PM
I don't really have a weed guy, lol. I usually only smoke when a friend has some. I've only actually arranged a pickup once, and that was years ago, and really sketchy, too. I know that a number of weed smokers here do shrooms as well, but I've never had the chance to actually get any off someone, or do them.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on December 29, 2009, 08:33:45 PM
Ha.  Novocaine.

I can almost feel my face now.
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Post by: Kulli on December 31, 2009, 08:37:50 PM
I tried gin straight today.

dsggfsdgdgdsdsf
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 01, 2010, 11:10:41 PM
Hahahaha oh wow.

Yeah, that stuff is some of the worst liquor around.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 02, 2010, 12:23:49 AM
I disagree. It does ahve a very unique taste, but in something like a Tom Collins or other similar drink, it can taste quite good. However, I would definitely say most people wouldnt like it straight.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 02, 2010, 01:55:26 AM
The stuff I last had tasted like a mix of tree sap and gasoline.

Then again, I'm like the only person I know who (used) to like Vodka.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 02, 2010, 02:09:37 AM
Well, GOOD vodka has no flavor at all, aside from the burn of alcohol. Last night I was at a party and my friend's dad had some Grey Goose vodka. That stuff was amazing, though I made myself a couple screwdrivers, instead of drinking shots. I was drinking Baby Guinnesses all night, which are Kahluah with Baileys layered on top. Damn good, and I pretty much drank a mickey of each, as well as a couple screwdrivers and a couple tokes off a pipe, because my friend's dad is cool like that. And somehow I was actually good at rock band drums... I'm never good at those, and I don't get good at stuff when I'm drunk.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: NewF on January 02, 2010, 05:15:41 PM
I tried gin straight today.

dsggfsdgdgdsdsf

Gin tastes like pine needles. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on January 02, 2010, 06:35:14 PM
Gin tastes like pine needles. 'Nuff said.

it tastes like lit gasoline, what are you talking about
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: NewF on January 02, 2010, 06:44:20 PM
Nope, pine needles. *puts foot down*
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 02, 2010, 07:07:24 PM
It taste like both goddamn.

Then again MOST liquor taste bad or burns.
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Post by: Bobbias on January 02, 2010, 08:14:58 PM
Nope, pine needles. *puts foot down*

Depending on what Gin it is... Beefeater and Gordons london dry taste like that, but Tanqueray or however it;s spelled doesn't really. There's a hint of that taste, but not the same as beefeater and such.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: NewF on January 02, 2010, 10:18:03 PM
Regardless, its gross.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zephlar on January 03, 2010, 12:20:50 AM
Beer is good....
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Post by: Jupi on January 03, 2010, 09:37:35 AM
Beer is good, yes.  :3
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on January 05, 2010, 12:49:28 AM
Beer is good....

Where the frack did you come from? XD

What's up, man?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Zephlar on January 13, 2010, 06:28:23 AM
Where the frack did you come from? XD

What's up, man?

Lol, I know right? I just sort of step out from the Shadows occasionally.
I just figured I'd see what this site was up to after all these years.

I moved to Pittsburgh Last year to be the executive Chef at this place called Rafaelles. You still living in Struthers man?
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Post by: Jupi on January 13, 2010, 06:35:26 AM


I moved to Pittsburgh Last year to be the executive Chef at this place called Rafaelles. You still living in Struthers man?


Oddly enough, I don't think I've heard of that place.

On topic: Caffeine. Huz-zah. @_@
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on January 14, 2010, 12:36:50 AM
I moved to Pittsburgh Last year to be the executive Chef at this place called Rafaelles.

Ooh, nice!  Make me a sammich. 8)

You still living in Struthers man?

Yep.  I moved to Maryland for a while but that proved to be hella expensive ($1900/month for a two bedroom apartment and I was getting paid so little that half of my pay went directly to rent) so I'm living with my folks again until I can afford my own place.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on February 06, 2010, 11:49:12 AM
So I tried pot for the first time last night
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Post by: Jupi on February 06, 2010, 11:54:14 AM
And how was that? :P
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Post by: Sneaky on February 06, 2010, 12:49:28 PM
Fucking fantastic!
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Post by: Jupi on February 06, 2010, 01:06:24 PM
Hurray!
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Post by: Bobbias on February 07, 2010, 01:06:35 PM
Yesterday my friend and I headed over to Liquid Chrome in Barrie, and bought wooden pipes. My friend got a Gandalf pipe, lol. I just picked up a cheaper one. Then picked up $40 worth between us.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 07, 2010, 03:07:53 PM
So I tried pot for the first time last night

lolwut, I thought you've done this before.

Also that's a mad classy pipe Boobies.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 07, 2010, 03:26:31 PM
Thanks, I'll see if I can get a better picture of it sometime. Preferably with my friend's pipe as well.

That pipe cost me about $30, but it came with a leather case and 10 free filters.
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Post by: Ulti on February 07, 2010, 08:06:46 PM
Haha, that's ballin'. I'm trying to decide if I want to shell out the cash for a nice bong, since I really could use one, I've been smoking out of the same pipe for the last few years... :<
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Post by: Bobbias on February 07, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
Well, I've considered buying a bong, but it just feels like so much money for them :/  I mean, most decent bongs at LC are like, $120 or more. I know there are cheaper ones, but I don't really want to go with something plain, I want to get something awesome. I'm thinking I may want to wait till I've got a bit more money saved before I drop some real cash for one.

Plus, I need to find a place to stash it, since my parents are heavily against it. And that's pretty hard, because my parents have very little respect for my privacy and go into my room for stuff all the time.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 07, 2010, 11:01:02 PM
Bongs are amazing. SO much smoother when you take a hit, more so when there is ice. I remember the last time I had access to a good bong me and my friend watched Ninja Scroll. I got blitzed instantly.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on February 08, 2010, 04:27:09 PM
bong stuff

A bong is worth it. It's my favorite way to smoke if I have enough herb for it anyway. One downfall is that it's a lot easier to smoke more at one time, especially with a group.

Although, if you're going to be saving up a lot of money anyway, get a vaporizer :D It's more discreet and much better use of your weed. Not as fun to smoke out of as a bong, but it gets the job done.

P.S.

I am very close to quitting smoking cigarettes. My stress level dropped significantly recently and my urge to smoke along with it. It's funny how those go hand-in-hand sometimes.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 08, 2010, 06:32:47 PM
I'm well aware of how useful an investment a bong is. However, with a mother that would bitch at me for smoking weed, then take my shit and use it for herself, and a father that disapproves of it heavily enough, and a seeming lack of respect for personal space, I've got a hard time finding a place to hide something that big. Hiding pipes is hard enough.
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Post by: Sneaky on February 08, 2010, 06:34:40 PM
Leave it in your trunk ;D lol idk. wrap it in a towel and shove it somewhere.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 08, 2010, 06:38:46 PM
There's the problem of not having a somewhere to put it. There's nowhere in my room aside from a couple isolated spots (mostly where my pipes are hidden) that I would consider safe enough to hide a  bong in. And of those places, none of them are big enough. My parents like to just walk into my room and clean, put clothes away, and likely just to spy as well. And I'm not gonna drop $100+ on something that's gonna be taken away.
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Post by: Sqthreer! on February 08, 2010, 07:43:14 PM
You need Time Lord technology.
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Post by: Ulti on February 08, 2010, 07:46:49 PM
You need this. (http://'http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Pocket_Bong.cfm?iProductID=3372&iProductCategoryID=726') Actually, you might not. I'm not sure if these are actually any good. But it's a clever idea!
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Post by: Sneaky on February 08, 2010, 09:51:24 PM
Just purchased me own pipe.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 09, 2010, 06:36:42 AM
You need this. (http://'http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Pocket_Bong.cfm?iProductID=3372&iProductCategoryID=726') Actually, you might not. I'm not sure if these are actually any good. But it's a clever idea!

That would be awesome, lol.
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Post by: Sneaky on February 12, 2010, 06:21:38 AM
So I'm pretty confident ill have a regular dealer for this fucking amazing strain: train wreck.  Born out of the 60s by 2 brothers in san deigo, this has been cultivated and perfected in socal. My dealer apparently has people over there in the medicinal MJ dispensary business, and he has access to this shit.

I had a not even fully stuffed bowl and I was a goner in my happy place.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 12, 2010, 06:39:09 AM
Fucking awesome. I swear, we need a s.net get together. All the guys who smoke here should have one huge session, lol.
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Post by: flesy on February 12, 2010, 10:59:22 AM
everyone get a vaporgenie
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Post by: Sneaky on February 12, 2010, 03:47:28 PM
just smelling this train wreak bud makes me want to jizz. in. my. pants.
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Post by: Ulti on February 12, 2010, 07:17:01 PM
Yeah, I get trainwreck occasionally where I live, it's a very good strain. I dunno how I feel about those Vaporgenie things. I have a few friends with them, and I think a regular vape would probably be better. >_>
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Post by: Sqthreer! on February 17, 2010, 04:25:57 PM
just smelling this train wreak bud makes me want to jizz. in. my. pants.

Trainwreck is the first weed I smoked. It's quite renowned for being delicious.

We've got a local bud called Eugene Queen that's pretty awesome and there has been lots going around recently. It's supposed to be some cross-breed between White Queen and something else but it's just swell.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 18, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
Fuck, all the bud I ever get has no name that I know of. I'd love to get into dealing with actual named strains and stuff, but at the same time, I don't put much money into it, so it's hard to get into it that way. :/
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Post by: annon on February 18, 2010, 07:43:05 PM
There's a private medical center around here where you can get evaluated for medicinal marijuana. The evaluation costs like $80, but it's apparently really easy to get approved (one guy got it for a sore toe). I'd be willing to check it out sometime, though I'll probably sell some blood to get the $80 first.
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Post by: Ulti on February 19, 2010, 03:47:41 AM
Fuck, all the bud I ever get has no name that I know of. I'd love to get into dealing with actual named strains and stuff, but at the same time, I don't put much money into it, so it's hard to get into it that way. :/

Honestly most of the time, when people give you names for strains on a regular basis, they're full of shit. It's really hard to be sure what kind of weed you're getting unless you're familiar with a strain, or know the guy who grew it and where they got the seeds. A few of my friends happen to grow, and got their seeds in BC from some apparently quite legitimate seed banks, so I actually get the legitimate thing occasionally, but it's usually tough to be sure. I've definitely bought weed with the 'same' name several times, only to have it be completely different from each different dealer. It's just kind of a crapshoot really @_@
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Post by: Bobbias on February 19, 2010, 06:51:41 AM
lol, yeah, but around here, if you even know the names for any strains, you know more than most dealers. I've only met a couple people who I would ever say know much about weed, aside from how to smoke it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on February 21, 2010, 10:55:46 PM
270mg DXM, herro dorry.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 21, 2010, 11:06:45 PM
I had this really tasty micro brew at this pizza joint that gave me a decent buzz after like 4 or so drinks, shit was awesome.

Also finishing a 38 ounce bottle of OE is harder then I thought it would be. It has this bad aftertaste that leaves this thick tasting layer of OE in your mouth just gets annoying.
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Post by: Sneaky on February 21, 2010, 11:11:31 PM
don't buy black people drank :(

stick with your microbrews :)  and if you get a chance, I highly recommend Fransizkaner pale ale. tasty as FUCK!
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Post by: Ulti on February 21, 2010, 11:56:11 PM
270mg DXM, herro dorry.

Hahaha, I was going to dex tonight, but I decided to buy steak instead!

Also, yeah, 40's are pretty gnarly. Mickey's is a long shot better than OE in my opinion, but malt liquor is always pretty horrible. Also, if you guys are like, on the west coast, you should try to track down Pyramid's Snowcap Winter Ale, it's their 2009 seasonal thingy, shit is awesome. It's a Seattle brewery so I'm not sure if they distribute nation-wide, but it's pretty goddamn tasty, and is some horrifyingly high alcohol percentage, I think it's like 7.4 or something like that.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 22, 2010, 12:07:47 AM
Dude, it's malt liquor. I know your american, and half the mixed drinks are made with malt liquor anyway, but man, why? Malt liquor is disgusting.

Also, I will say that I envy being able to drink a microbrew at a pizza place. The single biggest problem here is that the places I can buy beer have crap-fucking-tacular hours.

Also, I learned the hard way, playing kings/fuck you/whatever else you want to call it with the rule of double drinks is a bad idea. I learned just how much Old Speckled Hen (5.2%, by the way) I can drink in a short period of time. If you've ever drank too much water or something at once and felt incredibly full, I will confirm that yes, drinking even more will make you throw up.

I had something like 3 beers (500ml cans, almost 17 fl-oz each) and was sick, because everyone was targeting me :/ I wasn't even drunk, in fact, I was barely buzzed, but I was sick anyway because I literally had too much beer in my stomach. That sucked ass.

horrifyingly high alcohol percentage, I think it's like 7.4 or something like that.

I've seen many porters and stouts ranging from 6-10%, with most of them being around 8 to 9... 7.4 isn't absurdly high for a microbrew beer. Then again, you guys ARE american :P

EDIT: Also, finishing my hen tonight. 3 cans left when I started, one left now. All in all, a good way to end/start the week. And being an ale, I can drink it warm (my parents don't want beer in the fridge, and would not want me drinking beer by myself on a sunday night before I have to go to work monday morning :/)
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 22, 2010, 01:12:49 AM
Dude, it's malt liquor. I know your american, and half the mixed drinks are made with malt liquor anyway, but man, why? Malt liquor is disgusting.

Hey, I had a friend buying them and they were cheap and I've only had a little bit of OE and I didn't hate it (shit, I can drink damn near any beer) so I figured why the fuck not.

Also I resent that American statement. Most Americans probably do think Budwiser is a good beer, but my friends and I actually have some taste. Hell, we had a keg of Yuengling at the party.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 22, 2010, 01:21:37 AM
lol, sorry. You have to admit that there are a lot of drinks with malt liquor in them in the states. Even stuff that has real vodka here just has malt liquor in the states.

I know what you mean by the whole "I can drink damn near any beer" since I'm more or less the same way. But I had some mixed drink thing that was made with malt liquor and god damn was that disgusting. And I know that in many ways, the american beer market is rather restricted compared to here. I mean, I can walk into the beer store and buy Grolsh, Carlsburg, Guinness, Boddingtons, Old Speckled Hen, Brava and god knows how many other imported beers all at the same place. How often are all of those available in one place in the US? Probably not that often, considering how many beer stored there are here (and LCBOs, since they also carry those, and many others in their beer section).

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Post by: Sneaky on February 22, 2010, 05:40:49 AM
FUCK. 270mg dxm and a bowl of mj didn't do what I thought it would. Very minimal CEV, plus I fell asleep because nothing interesting was going on. Guess I'll have to up it next time. :(
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Post by: Bobbias on February 22, 2010, 06:34:40 AM
lol, shitty. I'll take note of that, since that sounds like something I'd try if I had both on me.
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Post by: Sneaky on February 22, 2010, 08:02:08 AM
Yea definately felt more weedhazy than dxm ya know. Ill just shoot for 350mg next time.
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Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 22, 2010, 01:29:42 PM
don't buy black people drank :(

Because I am black.

Also boobies, there are a few liquor shops down here that sell a TON of import and specialty beers, and I think I saw a non mass produced beer at a gas station.
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Post by: Bobbias on February 22, 2010, 06:01:35 PM
That's good to hear. I do envy being able to buy beer at gas stations and shit. Like I said, when the LCBO closes at 6 on week days, and the beer store closes at 8 on weekdays, and you can't buy beer anywhere else, things get shitty if you run out at night or anything.
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Post by: Ulti on February 22, 2010, 07:17:52 PM
@boobies - I'm not sure if it's just where I live, but every gas station, supermarket, and basically any place with a cooler, has at least twice as many varieties of beer than any other beverage.

270mg is a 1st plat dose for most people's weight. It's a good like, first-time dose, but you're not going to get much in the way of CEV's, mindfuck, or much of anything. I always try to shoot for 300+, since that's where you start getting into second plat territory, and that's more fun, at least in my opinion. I usually dose 400mg, and smoke a couple bowls, that gets me tripping nicely. Just generally speaking from my experience and everyone I've talked to, don't be that worried about overshooting your dose mark - If you're aiming for a mid second plat, and you accidentally take an extra 50-100mg or something, it's probably not going to shoot you immediately into something you can't handle. The threshold points for most people tend to be around the 300-400mg mark from 1-2, and 600-700 from 2-3, so really you're probably not going to have an accidental third plateau on your hands.

They sell these Zicam Cough Max spraybottle things that are 392mg DXM in half an ounce of fluid, that's a good way to get your dosing done, although I am quite convinced that the spray is literally the worst tasting fluid you could possibly create. I have never, ever tasted something that made me feel as if I had I had dunked my throat in a vat of industrial chemicals more than that stuff does. But shit hits you in like, 20-30 minutes, so there's that going for it, hahah.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on February 22, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
Wow lol thanks for the tip man I'll take a look for that shit when I'm at work!  Also, how far do you recommend one spaces out doses? As in seperate trips.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on February 24, 2010, 02:35:37 AM
As long as you give it a week or so between each trip you'll be fine, longer for 3-4th plat trips, but after something that intense you'll probably want to give it a break @_@
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on March 10, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
Alright then, I was about as high as I've ever been last night. Like, out of my head high, to the point where I really didn't feel on the same level as anyone else I was with high.

 It was weird, that and my friend started to act sort of like an ass, at least to me (he kept going on with long ramblings about weird stuff. Then he started burning a cigarette box "for warmth" and I told him to stop while the house owner took it away from him only to have him pick it back up and continue burning. Then he asked if the house owner had a TV around so he could hook up his xbox and play Nazi Zombies while another [probably both] friend egged him on [house owner isn't a huge video game person]. Finally he kept talking about how great America is and asked if this one Caribbean (?) kid if he liked America better then his home country).

The whole thing was just odd, or maybe it was because I was just really high.

Edit: then again, it was fairly awesome. We had a small bong/water pipe deal filled with some tequila (honestly kinda nasty) and after 3 or so bowls of that someone tipped it and we decided to take my friends cigar and cut it open and fill it with weed. This worked shockingly well and I alone got about 5 or 6 solid hits from it and didn't even want to continue after that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 10, 2010, 07:07:21 PM
Yeah, a weed cigar is a blunt. They're probably my favorite means of smoking, hahaha. But yeah that sounds kind of bizarre, it's always weird when you're in a situation that might be awkward even if you're sober, but high as fuck. I usually just duck out of conversation when things get too weird, and either just smoke moar or start fiddling around with whatever's at hand, hahaha.

Also: I hear hard a in bongs is baaad news bears, aside from it being nasty it's apparently hell to clean up and will make your bong taste like anus for the rest of forever, but I don't now, I've never tried it. Sugary drinks are apparently bad too since they'll get the inside of your bong sticky.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 11, 2010, 01:22:49 PM
I've heard Dr Pepper works awesome, and tastes great. I haven't heard anything about Hard Liquor, and actually, my friends talked about putting some vodka in his bong. They seemed to think it was pretty cool.

I've (maybe) had one blunt in my life... I was high as fuck at the time, so I can't remember if it was actually a blunt or not, but it was seriously awesome.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 11, 2010, 08:16:18 PM
Yeah blunts kick a serious amount of ass, but they're pretty goddamn intense unless you have a mega weed tolerance or are not smoking very potent of weed. Usually it takes like a gram+ to fill one as well, so they're kind of expensive unless you go in on them with a group, which is usually a nice idea. When me and my friends get together to smoke we tend to stick with blunts unless we're at someone's place where we can use a nice bong.

Still not sure about the alcohol in bongs thing though... sounds pretty sketchy to me.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on March 12, 2010, 03:50:03 PM
I might have a picture somewhere, but an old roommate made a blunt out of a 6-inch wrap, and it took about 4 grams to fill it. For 5 people smoking, we got about 3/4 through it before everyone was done XD

Also, warm sweetened milk or orange juice is really good in a bong or hookah.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 12, 2010, 07:52:47 PM
Yeah I've heard that milk works really well, and the smoke comes out way thicker for some reason.

Also, someone has to remind me that third plat. DXM trips are not worth feeling like a dead guy for 36 hours afterwards. Every time this happens, and every time I forget how useless I am the next day.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on March 12, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
I'll have to convince someone to try that, considering I love milk. Also is there any liquid you can put into a bog that would actively decrease the amount of THC in the smoke? Or is that all bullshit?

Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 13, 2010, 01:34:01 PM
Well, it is soluable in both fat, and alcohol. (hence why you can make tinctures and stuff like pot butter). Of course, considering how quickly the smoke moves through the liquid, I doubt very much THC is removed.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on March 18, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
Ok, so this week is my spring break. I've spent every moment so far either skiing or high (or both). It's a pretty awesome vacation.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flesy on March 22, 2010, 11:41:48 PM
ugh don't put anything but cold water in your bong everything else is stupid
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on March 23, 2010, 11:39:16 AM
nuh uh
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on March 26, 2010, 08:19:29 PM
One-hits are great.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on March 27, 2010, 04:18:38 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lurch

Remind me to score some PCP once in a while.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on March 28, 2010, 06:50:38 PM
Hah, yes. I love telling people that story, shit is so ridiculously awesome. I can't decide if it makes me want to try PCP or not, though. I like /dis/'s, at least from my DXM experience, but something tells me I should probably try ketamine instead. Not like I can find either of them, though :<
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 08, 2010, 06:59:04 PM
doubletoast.

Tried e and coke this weekend. Wasn't as blown away by mdma as I expected, but it would definitely be a lot of fun at a rave. Coke was balls gay though, I did four lines and basically nothing of note happened. I just started talking faster for a few minutes. :<
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 08, 2010, 08:43:06 PM
I think I heard somewhere that coke sometimes doesn't do shit all the first time...

As much as I'm against hard drugs, I think I'd be willing to try both E and Coke, at least once though.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 08, 2010, 11:51:15 PM
My one friend said the stuff is highly overrated, and I had another who was basically addicted to it (went to rehab, then a military school) but he's stopped since.

I would like to try E tho, stuff seems good. Is it chemically dependent tho? I hear that it can make you mess chemically.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 09, 2010, 12:49:42 AM
No, it's not chemically addictive. What E does is fuck with the way your brain "recycles" some of the dopamine that gets released into the brain. Basically, there's a membrane in the brain cells that can pick up dopamine that has been released, so that it can regulate how much is actually floating around out there, stimulating cells and whatnot, aside form controlling how much is actually released. When you take E, that membrane actually reverses function, flooding your brain with dopamine. That causes various effects, especially mood changes, since dopamine is a mood regulator. Of course, like all other neurotransmitters, it controls a whole fuckton of other shit too, which is why you need to take care that you don't overheat or exert yourself.

As for being chemically messed up, not really. The worst thing that can happen is that you may end up depleting your brain's supply of dopamine or severely reducing it to a level lower than you normally have when your not taking E. that can cause effects such as depression and such for a day or 2 after. However, that effect can be mitigated by taking 5-HTP supplements (can be found at any pharmacy). 5-HTP is the precursor to Dopamine, so by taking a supplement before rolling, you can mostly mitigate that, since by the time your done rolling, your body will have had enough 5-HTP to process to bring your dopamine levels more or less back to normal. You might be a bit low for a short time, but it nearly as much as if you hadn't taken 5-HTP. It's also suggested to take vitamin C with the 5-HTP, I believe it's supposed to help your body process it faster.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 09, 2010, 04:23:48 AM
The more you know. Sounds like fun then.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 09, 2010, 04:41:12 AM
Yeah. The biggest risk with E is getting pills cut with something undesirable, like meth or what have you, but you can bypass that by buying molly, the common term for MDMA powder, apparently it's pretty easy to track down if you have someone who can find you e pills. If I do E again I'm probably going to do that, even though the pills I got were pretty damn pure (according to the guys I got them from, who I took them with, and they know their shit I guess?), it was still a bit speedier than I would've liked, but I can totally see E being badass at a rave or something. I felt a bit off the next day but I put that off more to sleep deprivation (I'd gotten like, six hours of sleep in the last two days before I rolled) than a hangover or anything.

But yeah, coke was really underwhelming. I can see how people would like it, and I think if I tried it by itself, it might have been more fun, but while I was rolling, I was not that impressed. Amphetamine is way more impressive, not to mention useful.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 09, 2010, 12:58:50 PM
Lol, well, IIRC I've read that coke while rolling does not do much.

But yeah, the problem with pills is that the process to synthesize MDMA requires extractions, many of which require using various (usually toxic/poisonous) chemicals to separate the unwanted stuff, and many of those chemicals can react with some stuff and create some undesirable compounds, such as MDE, MDA MDEA and even meth. Although all of those compounds are closely related chemically to MDMA they are not as effective, tend give more of a body buzz and such rather than act as a mood enhancer/euphoric.

I've done my research on E, lol. I spent a lot of time on Erowid, as well as various medical papers and such, because I've been interested in it for quite some time. I'd just never had the chance, and don't know anyone who could get me some. Plus, most of my friends ar ereally against drugs like that. Mostly because they don't know much about them. (Reefer Madness anyone?)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 09, 2010, 08:10:40 PM
I dunno, you should try asking around. Before I did drugs, I always assumed E was something like LSD, a drug few people did, and only like, hardcore druggies or ravers or something. Then, I started doing drugs, and found that (At least in the area I live) E is probably the most commonly used drug next to weed, and it's way easier to find than even like mushrooms, which are basically popping up out of the ground all over the place when they're in season here. So you might be surprised, try asking your weed guy or something. :s
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 10, 2010, 03:01:35 AM
I've seen one person on E (or claiming to be on E anyway) so far. I've seen plenty of people who do shrooms, and known a couple people who've done coke and shit. But E is one of the things you hardly hear about here. There are no local raves or anything, which sucks ass.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 11, 2010, 08:38:23 PM
Last night was a really, really long night for me.

So I decided to use the last of my pot to make something to eat/drink, since I've only ever smoked or vaped. The only thing I found in my dorm room that would work was instant oatmeal, which was fine. I ground up the pot and put it in the bowl with the oatmeal, added water and microwaved it. When it was finished I ate it. It tasted like apples and cinnamon with a hint of pot, which was fine. I didn't get high until about an hour later.

That high lasted FOREVER.

I'm used to it subsiding after 2 or 3 hours, but it just kept going. I didn't want to go to sleep, but I was so bored with everything while awake. I watched a few episodes of Gurren Lagann and Scrubs, which was fine but nothing compared to what happens when I smoke it.

Next time I do something like this, I'm doing it with people.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 11, 2010, 09:42:51 PM
Sounds interesting. Ive had times where it seemed to just last forever, but that sounds pretty different.

I also didnt know that instant oatmeal works lol. How much did you have?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 11, 2010, 09:47:13 PM
Sounds awesome.

I also had an incredibly night last night. It was my friends 21st and his mother wanted to throw him a surprise party, so we did. Before the drinking really started like 4 or 5 people left, so we had several bottle split between a few people and everyone got fucking smashed. It went on till like 7-7:30 in the morning before I stole someones bed and passed out in it. It was a fairly crazy and fun night, but the birthday boy got waaaaay too drunk and felt up a girl when me and his girlfriend were sitting together watching him which was very awkward.

but yeah, had a ton of fun.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 11, 2010, 10:09:30 PM
I had enough to fill one of those reversible pill bottle lids when it was ground up. Not sure how much that is in grams, but it seemed like a lot.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 12, 2010, 03:16:52 AM
That's probably like, a gram maybe? Depends how dense your weed is. And that sounds like a typical pot-edibles high - it lasts forever and isn't really that intense, unless you use an ungodly amount of weed. In which case they'll ruin you. :3
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 12, 2010, 03:22:07 AM
Lol, I definitely need to try a combination. Eat some, and smoke a popper or 2 :P Instant intense action from the popper, and long lasting come down from the eaten stuff... Sounds like I've got a plan.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 12, 2010, 03:58:22 AM
What's with the pill bottles and weed thing? Is it like a status symbol or are they really that good for holding weed.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 12, 2010, 04:09:54 AM
I guess it's a little of both. They're widely accessible and they hold the smell in really well, so they're popular in the States.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 12, 2010, 06:50:08 AM
Around here we tend to use a combination of plastic bags and tin containers and such. Of course, I saw one girl one time that had a margarine container full of weed, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on April 12, 2010, 12:07:37 PM
We call them nug jugs around here. I love seeing what kind of containers people use for their weed. My first one ever was an aspirin bottle.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on April 12, 2010, 03:21:06 PM
So I rolled over the weekend.



holy fuck
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on April 12, 2010, 03:39:37 PM
I thought you keep weed in baggies

you druggies are weird :(
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on April 12, 2010, 03:49:20 PM
I usually get it in baggies but it's an awkward and inefficient way to store weed. Especially if you're getting into it several times a day.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 12, 2010, 09:05:53 PM
I used to use a bottle of robogels. :3c
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 12, 2010, 10:31:28 PM
I guess it's a little of both. They're widely accessible and they hold the smell in really well, so they're popular in the States.

Just seems like you'd get into more legal trouble if you had a pill bottle that wasn't supposed to be yours, or has a scratched off label.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 12, 2010, 10:52:36 PM
A pill bottle's just a plastic bottle made to hold pills. There's nothing illegal about having one.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on April 12, 2010, 11:11:57 PM
I keep mine in a sort-of seethru green with no label. keeps the smell down, and holds decently sized buds perfectly.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 13, 2010, 12:17:45 AM
A pill bottle's just a plastic bottle made to hold pills. There's nothing illegal about having one.

I really wouldn't doubt that a cop could still use it for a paraphernalia charge if he wanted to be a dick about it.

Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 13, 2010, 06:42:56 PM
Yeah, but in all honesty, if you were being charged with possession, they're likely to drop the paraphernalia charge because it's not worth the extra paperwork. And if you weren't being charged with possession, they have no grounds to use that as physical evidence for a paraphernalia charge.

Around here, most of the time if you get caught with a bong or something with no weed, the cops usually just destroy the bong. which kinda sucks, because bongs are not fucking cheap, but it's better than being hit with a charge.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on April 14, 2010, 04:11:36 PM
When my previous house got raided by the cops because one of our roommates was selling pot and mushrooms, they searched everyone's room, found  everyone's pipes, and stashes, but didn't do anything to them. They just left everything there and only took the dealer's stuff.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on April 14, 2010, 04:19:45 PM
This has probably been asked here before. so uh

I'm kind of a newbie at smoking weed. I don't toke every day, it's just a weekend, 'hey instead of drinking, i'll smoke instead' deal. But I've noticed I've become extremely paranoid when I do weed, as most others do. I don't tend to show it necessarily, but the thoughts constantly hit my head and even when I'm completely normal, I'm still paranoid on what MIGHT've happened. So guys, please enlighten me, what's a good way to calm yourself down a lot easier, and IF caught in the situation by the cops, what are ways to avoid charges?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on April 14, 2010, 06:41:15 PM
As for feeling paranoid while high, I've found it helps to have someone there who you have some kind of respect for, that is also high, but not paranoid.

When I first got my ex to start smoking, we got blazed and went to a 24-hour restaurant at around 2 or 3am. She started getting nervous and kept worrying about the staff at the restaurant calling the cops on us. Being high puts you in a less rational state of mind sometimes, especially if you're not used to it. It really really helps to have someone calmly explain the reality of the situation. She was getting to the point of crying until I explained that, from experience, that doesn't happen unless you're being a nuisance to them, and the waiter could just as likely be high too XD If someone did actually call the cops, what the fuck would they say? "There are two friendly people behaving perfectly normal who may or may not be high on marijuana eating quietly at my restaurant! PLEASE SEND HELP IMMEDIATELY!!" The police wouldn't give two shits. After my explanation she felt totally comfortable and we both happily pigged the fuck out. THE END.

The fact is: unless you're being an idiot and taking stupid risks, the cops won't get involved. And if they happen to get involved when you have been playing it safe, as long as you don't smell like it, don't have anything on you and don't act like a dumbass, there's nothing they can do to you. Those are the cops I'm used to though; I know they can be assholes sometimes, but without reasonable suspicion, they don't have many options.

Paranoia and fear is reasonable if you're high while also involved in something else illegal, but that's just retarded in general. I'm not saying I abide every law, but I've been smoking all day every day for the past two years, and semi-frequently for two years before that, so I am comfortable being high in most situations. But what helped me any time I started losing my calm while high in public situations, I just pretended that everyone else was high too. That and just pay attention to the facts and logic at hand, but also don't just throw caution to the wind. There's a big difference between being paranoid and being cautious.

Your paranoia could also be coming from how much you smoke. I've gotten to the point where I was so high that I questioned whether or not everything I was doing or saying was making me look like a total dipshit. It's really unsettling, but if that's the case, try smoking less, or just spacing it out. Make sure to be there for yourself if no one else is there to talk you down from it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 14, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
Basically everything Sq3r said I'd have probably said too - The conclusion I've come to with paranoia is that 4/5 times it's a completely irrational fear. I used to get mad paranoia smoking, I'd always be hella sketched out trying to smoke just about anywhere, no matter how safe it was. But another thing that's helped put my mind at peace is this little piece of knowledge - nobody knows you're stoned, and even if they did, they probably wouldn't care. Unless you are acting a huge fool, reek of weed, and your eyes are mega red, nobody's going to be able to tell you're stoned. Get some eye drops and gum, and you'll be good.

Another thing you might want to try is smoking more indica weed, as opposed to sativa strains. Indicas tend to be more of a couchlock high, and less "Oh god the fuzz are going to bust through the ceiling with nets and take me to rehab forever aaaaa" than sativas. However, since you don't smoke too often, you might not have a good hookup, or much control of what you're smoking. Plus, it's hard to tell what strain your weed is just by looking at it (Since most strains are hybrids these days anyways, a pure strain of one or the other species is uncommmon from my experience), so you're just going to have to ask whoever you're buying from, and hope they know. Kind of a shot in the dark, but it might help.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on April 20, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
happy 420 ya'lllll
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 20, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
Damnit, I completely forgot... I'm a terrible stoner, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 20, 2010, 08:25:05 PM
I smoked all the pots
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 20, 2010, 08:37:48 PM
Currently waiting to see if a friend's phone is working, and whether or not he has any weed, lol. I really hope he gets my text, and does have weed. I really want to get high tonight.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on April 20, 2010, 08:47:32 PM
Hail Hitler.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on April 20, 2010, 10:07:22 PM
First time i've ever been high on a school night.

Sweet.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on April 21, 2010, 01:53:17 AM
I celebrated with some people in my CS class. I also found an awesome grinder for really cheap, and we tried it out and it was great. Dispensaries have some good stuff, I should grab a license.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 21, 2010, 02:35:14 AM
So much for getting any tonight. I wish I was back in school already, so I could get high with my friends again between classes.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on April 21, 2010, 01:58:53 PM
4/20 or not, I had a fucking excellent day yesterday.

I spent a total of about 5 or 6 hours on the bus visiting as many of my friends as possible. Aside from the bus rides I smoked continuously the whole day, and ended up at my friend's new house for most of the night. He had a bunch of his friends over, a lot of which were musicians and in various little-known bands so I got to jam a little bit in their band room with them. This was also the first party I've been to that actually had a keg so I that was fun.

Anyway, this experience really made realize how important friends are.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 02, 2010, 02:39:18 AM
Marijuana is just fantastic.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on May 02, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
I just rode an elevator up with a guy wearing a D.A.R.E. T-shirt. It was really hard to not laugh at the irony. I wonder if he could tell how high I was.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 06, 2010, 10:45:57 AM
Just bought a 250ml bottle of robo... At 15mg/5ml the whole bottle should result in a dose of just over 10 mg/kg, which is in the range of the third plateau.... This should be interesting.

Hopefully the 5,000 mg of guaifenesin don't come into play here.... The internet recommends not going over 2.6g/day.... But luckily the side effects are pretty minor, so even if it poses a problem, the worst thing that will likely happen is me getting sick.

EDIT: Bottle successfully chugged. I dunno why people seem to think it's so hard to chug that stuff. It does taste a bit fucked, but it's not that bad. Now I just have to wait till thing get interesting.

Getting sick sucked. And I can't hardly type. Also, robo in your nose hurts like a fucker
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 06, 2010, 01:12:02 PM
really fucked up. 1 hour disappeared. got sick in buckeet by bed. jerky movements. got itchy earkly onb, ill fix this later

jerky movement, can barely read. fucking weird. heartburn = not cool. puking robo up your nose != cool.

still fix this later when i finally come to.

a bath was fucing weird. for a while when i did it right i felt like my head was everywhere. I felt my body in the tub and my head was everywhere and nowhere. another dimension? fuckin a.

need to make sure I dont get sick again. typing still hard as hell movements still jerky.

I think I puked too early an killed a bunch of the DXM :/ not cool. I was hoping for one massive trip. Then again, last time I did something like this, I took like, 5.5 or 6.5 tylenol 3s and went from "stoned" to "feel like i've been hit by a truck".

Drugs are compluicated
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on May 06, 2010, 03:05:19 PM
really fucked up. 1 hour disappeared. got sick in buckeet by bed. jerky movements. got itchy earkly onb, ill fix this later

jerky movement, can barely read. fucking weird. heartburn = not cool. puking robo up your nose != cool.

still fix this later when i finally come to.

a bath was fucing weird. for a while when i did it right i felt like my head was everywhere. I felt my body in the tub and my head was everywhere and nowhere. another dimension? fuckin a.

need to make sure I dont get sick again. typing still hard as hell movements still jerky.

I think I puked too early an killed a bunch of the DXM :/ not cool. I was hoping for one massive trip. Then again, last time I did something like this, I took like, 5.5 or 6.5 tylenol 3s and went from "stoned" to "feel like i've been hit by a truck".

Drugs are compluicated

Quoted because this is hilarious and I don't want it edited

P.S. So I heard your movements are jerky
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 06, 2010, 03:39:05 PM
Dude don't chug the one with the guaifenesin in it!!! We sell one at frys here thats all DXM.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 06, 2010, 04:55:55 PM
There are none here that are pure DXM, unfortunately. I'm still feeling a bit odd, actually, but I slept a lot of it off after that.

That trip was nowhere near what I was trying for. I think puking up a bunch of the syrup likely ended up killing most of the trip.

But when I said 1 hour disappeared, I wasn't fucking kidding, lol. I looked at the clock at one point, and then I laid back and closed my eyes, and when I opened them again, it was an hour later, lol. I dunno whether I was asleep or just tripped the whole time.

The guaifenesin is obviously what made me puke, since that's basically what it does (it really isn't harmful, other than making you sick like that). The thing about the jerky movements: it's actually a pretty common thing on robo, according to the DXM FAQ for stuff like that. It felt like my muscles had 2 positions, either fully extended, or fully contracted, so I was basically moving like that.

I'd do it again, but I think I'm gonna need to make an extraction, like the Agent Orange method or something. Guaifenesin sucks balls at high doses, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 06, 2010, 07:33:43 PM
Or just go get some ecstasy. lol
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 06, 2010, 11:55:49 PM
That is hard to ind around here. I don't have any contacts, and I do not feel comfortable just asking random people. I definitely would like to try E, but it's kinda risky around here.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 07, 2010, 06:14:10 PM
Quoted because this is hilarious and I don't want it edited

P.S. So I heard your movements are jerky

Does it remind anyone else of that diary you find in the first resident evil where the guy is slowly turning into a zombie and his grammar gets worse and worse?

Also my friends went all against E, despite not giving any real reason against it. Like he just said "NO MAN, NO" and I asked why, and he said something minor like it messing you up and he didn't really explain himself and then he just like refused to continue the conversation.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on May 07, 2010, 06:27:35 PM
I really wish I knew someone who could get me acid. I don't expect the guy I buy weed from to know, since he's pretty much exclusively an MMJ user.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 07, 2010, 07:43:01 PM
E is fantastic, but like everything, all in moderation. Yes, if you roll 5 pills a day for a month you'll probably get VERY fucked up. If you did that much acid for a month, you'd probably get fucked up. DXM same amount of time? Very fucked up. Pot?..... well nevermind.

I wouldn't even roll every weekend, but once in a while it's a great experience! I've yet to do shrooms or Acid, but I'm looking forward to trying this summer. My dealer (MJ) doesn't roll with anything but his MMJ shit from california (Trainwreck), which I'm fine with, I love the shit.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 07, 2010, 11:51:58 PM
I really want to try shrooms and acid, and E.... Too bad I don'r know the sort of people who can get me those things, and I'm certainly not just gonna walk around town asking where I can get some.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 08, 2010, 01:37:05 AM
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 08, 2010, 05:08:08 AM
Wow a GALLON?

Also I'm fairly drunk and high, feels good man.

Edited because I was waaay to messed up when this was initially posted. My friend evidently smokes weed with his dad now, which is pretty damn cool.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on May 10, 2010, 07:49:47 PM
Oh man, that's my favorite WKUK sketch. In unrelated news, I saw Shpongle this weekend, I have never seen anything so trippy in my life. Fluorescent tribal dancing and psychedelic colors everywhere D:
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 11, 2010, 08:39:51 AM
Oh man, that's my favorite WKUK sketch. In unrelated news, I saw Shpongle this weekend, I have never seen anything so trippy in my life. Fluorescent tribal dancing and psychedelic colors everywhere D:

Awesome! I REALLY want to see Shpongle live... And on drugs.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 14, 2010, 04:00:48 PM
I'm really hung over now. Like, I don't have a headache and my stomach doesn't hurt, but I'm like shake.

but yeah, I finished my Russian Standard, shit was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 14, 2010, 05:45:48 PM
Going to a rave tonight.. 7pm to 8am

fuck year
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 14, 2010, 06:05:59 PM
goddamnit. nothing cool like that happens around here.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 14, 2010, 06:29:48 PM
be sure to bring water, but not to much water.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on May 16, 2010, 06:08:15 PM
This is great, I can now drink without losing my self-control. I guess I can drink more frequently now.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on May 16, 2010, 09:14:24 PM
lolwut, what are you even doing?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on May 16, 2010, 09:34:12 PM
It was actually last night. I played a drinking game with some friends. We watched The Room and took a shot every time someone said "Oh hi, <name>", "Don't worry about it", or "Everything's going to be alright." I got hammered.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on May 20, 2010, 10:00:08 PM
I'm going to get half a gram of ketamine this weekend, I'll let you guys know how that goes. I'm still not sure if I'll k-hole though, half a gram isn't a ton and that would take a fairly significant portion.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on May 20, 2010, 11:05:36 PM
I wouldn't be worried about that man just keep a cool head listen to some good tunes.

On that note, I smoked a half a bowl of (apparently) some really fucking great purple kush. So much so, that for the first time, I got the weed shakes for a good 10 mins. Never happened to me before, but fuck man I must have been ridiculously high. time to get a one-hitter.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on May 21, 2010, 12:47:41 AM
Fuck, I need a dealer. And I want to experiment with other shit, but I need someone I can actually trust, and can get it :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on June 28, 2010, 03:25:05 PM
THE best thing I have ever done, by far. Dropped 2 sugar cubes of (now apparent to me) very strong acid. Best fucking 12 hours of my life.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on June 29, 2010, 01:23:55 AM
Ahh yeah, I ate a hit on Saturday night, and it was utter madness. I was tripping for a good 12 hours, rofl...
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on June 29, 2010, 05:25:45 AM
Fuck you guys :<

We need to have like, a s.net meet up/drug session, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on June 29, 2010, 01:53:06 PM
in overland park kansas
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on June 29, 2010, 03:29:58 PM
Or Fort Collins, Colorado.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on July 01, 2010, 03:54:38 PM
Wow why are you guys all living on the wrong side of the country. Let's try Seattle. :3c
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on July 01, 2010, 04:11:26 PM
Fuck Seattle.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on July 01, 2010, 04:12:22 PM
If everyone posts their current location, we could calculate the optimal meeting place.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on July 01, 2010, 04:59:11 PM
mah couch
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on July 01, 2010, 05:04:15 PM
Or Phoenix
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on July 01, 2010, 07:08:22 PM
or overland park kansas, seeing as kansas is in the middle of the fucking country HURRRRRRHH
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on July 01, 2010, 09:15:52 PM
Sure, but the population center is more northeast.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 01, 2010, 10:33:37 PM
I live in a far corner of the country, so I'm fucked.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on July 02, 2010, 07:54:39 PM
This is spectere.net, therefore my house is the best meeting place.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 02, 2010, 08:13:06 PM
Your place is situated where for the time being?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on July 02, 2010, 08:47:43 PM
This is spectere.net, therefore my house is the best meeting place.

PARTY AT SPECTERE'S HOUSE!!!
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on July 02, 2010, 08:58:53 PM
ohio, mrite? lol
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 02, 2010, 10:38:59 PM
This is spectere.net, therefore my house is the best meeting place.

I'm crashing on your floor then.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on July 04, 2010, 12:53:58 AM
Your place is situated where for the time being?

Struthers, Ohio, once again (with my parents, until I get a job that actually pays me at least minimum wage).

I'm crashing on your floor then.

aight dawg
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on July 04, 2010, 02:12:53 AM
aight man, when's this party? 
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Spectere on July 04, 2010, 02:36:39 AM
Now.

You bitches are all late. D:
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on July 04, 2010, 03:18:24 AM
Sheeeit dawg.  Imma need to gas up the Mirth Mobile, then I'll be all up in your crib, yo.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 04, 2010, 02:42:23 PM
Got high at noon yesterday, played battlefront (friend talking massive shit, everyone ignores him) then at night we went to Duffy's to watch the fight and I got a massive mug of yuengling (buy one, get one free, all in one mug) and a giant burger. Shit was grand.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on July 04, 2010, 03:54:59 PM
Me and my friend made a waterfall/gravity bong out of a tennis ball canister last night. We used it both ways and got so fucked up.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 04, 2010, 08:36:28 PM
Yesterday, my friend and my GF and I went to toronto, spent all of about an hour there, and drove back.... My friend was ripping poppers all the way there and back. I ended up mostly not smoking till we finally got back. But after I dropped my GF off and decided to hang out with my friend at his place, we hit some poppers and I get pretty fucked. Watched a bunch of Russell Brand videos, lol.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 05, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Oh, and I forgot to mention, while we were high and playing BF2, my one friend found the first season of the OC on my friends counter and asks him why he had it, to which he replied "my girlfriend makes me watch it". We both laughed for a while about it when he left.

Also had a rather lame 4th of July, but I did come really fucking close to setting myself on fire.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on July 06, 2010, 08:45:14 PM
I ate a couple hits of acid, and spent most of the day in my apartment with some of my friends going "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the fucking walls man D:". This was apparently some goddamn potent acid.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on July 06, 2010, 08:50:43 PM
only in the apartment? D: music at least?? haha
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 07, 2010, 03:23:34 AM
How much does Acid cost where you guys are anyway?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on July 07, 2010, 10:01:41 PM
10/per for me.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on July 10, 2010, 07:27:17 PM
I used the waterfall bong I made with a friend who'd never used one before last night. I let him load the bowl while I filled the canister with water. I probably should've told him to only load the bowl halfway, since we'd be burning all of it during the waterfall. He used my grinder and loaded the bowl to the top. I didn't notice at first and let him light it while I drained the canister. It was gone by the time the water drained, so we had a half-gallon canister with a bowl's worth of smoke in it.

If you've never successfully inhaled smoke that dense, let me tell you it is amazing. I was completely blazed after one breath, and I only got about half of the canister while my friend got the rest.

Then we watched She's Out of My League, which we both agreed was a pretty shitty movie.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 10, 2010, 08:48:08 PM
10/per for me.

That seems like a lot D: I've never seen it for more than 3 - $5 here.

PS Waterfalls are pretty awesome. A tennis ball canister is a good idea, I will have to remember that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 11, 2010, 01:51:32 AM
We got fucked

Haha, no shit, that sounds like a recipe for getting fucked.

I've never smoked anything like a gravity bong/whatever you want to call things like that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on July 11, 2010, 07:41:59 AM
That seems like a lot D: I've never seen it for more than 3 - $5 here.

PS Waterfalls are pretty awesome. A tennis ball canister is a good idea, I will have to remember that.

The only place I've been able to find it 5/per is Canada. My town is p known for massive amounts of psychedelics, and 10/per is p common for acid. If you can get it for 3/per, you should totally put like 10 of those motherfuckers in your face.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 11, 2010, 11:30:42 AM
Haha, yeah, 3/per would be amazing. I'd probably buy some to get fucked up then, and save some, at that price. But you say 5/per in canada is common... That's good news for me, if I can actually find some. Mind you, I really don't know how to approach people looking for that sort of thing... I've always tried to avoid all the sketchy stuff when it comes to drugs. I want to find dealers who are actually trustworthy, and cool people :/

Out of curiosity, how intense were the visuals?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 12, 2010, 11:45:49 PM
If I had money to spare I'd buy a shitload and go to the beach and trip with my friends again. Aside from doing LSD again, though, I am pretty much over drugs in general. Since moving out of my stoner residency I"ve been smoking a lot less and not constantly craving it anymore. Otherwise I have no desire to try anything new or get totally fucked up in any way. I go through different phases quite often but I was thinking doing drugs would last longer. I'll probably still smoke weed on occasion in my future, but I want to be able to enjoy life without drugs, which is really really hard :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 13, 2010, 09:55:02 AM
You know, I've never been a huge stoner. I've always smoked off and on, usually only when a friend had weed as well.

It's kinda nice, not smoking every day and shit. I mean, I'd like to have a bit better access, but I never want to be one of those people who's lives revolve around smoking weed. I smoke because it's nice to relax, and shit. Music is more fun to listen to, it's easier to sleep, driving home is nice, class is more fun, lol. But yeah, I made the decision a long time ago that I would not let weed control me.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 13, 2010, 01:06:43 PM
I wasn't a stoner until I moved into the stoner house I just moved out of. I quickly got into the habit of smoking every single day, and all day because everyone I lived with (8 -9 other people) smoked and were happy to smoke me out. I don't think weed, or any drug for that matter should be done that often.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 13, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
Yeah, for me it's just been a way to relax, have fun, etc. A way to enjoy life just a bit more. Never something I need to get through the day or something.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 13, 2010, 08:02:26 PM
Yeah when you get to the point where you can't relax without it, it's not a good thing anymore.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 13, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
So I'm the only person who can't seem to relax while stoned?

I really want to buy some for some solo smoking. Speaking of wich, does anyone know a site that delivers pipes and what not in non-obvious boxes?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 14, 2010, 03:05:04 PM
Grasscity.com is the only site I know of. I got my very first pipe from the site actually. The packaging was very discreet, it was just a regular brown box with the usual white label. I don't even think it said it was from grasscity.com or anything. And you're definitely not the only person can't relax while stoned. That's another reason I haven't been smoking as much; I've been getting really anxious and paranoid when I smoke these days. I only really enjoy smoking alone anymore but it's not a good habit to get into.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 17, 2010, 11:25:51 PM
http://www.grasscity.com/small-ceramic-pipe-1.html

I'm thinking of getting this, but it looks a bit bulky and breakable. Will probably go with something like this.

http://www.grasscity.com/metal-chamber-pipe.html

http://www.grasscity.com/metal-and-wood-pipe-16.html
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 17, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
I recommend against metal pipes mostly because of how quickly they heat up. And especially a short metal one like that which would get really hot where you hold it pretty fast. Another problem with shorter pipes is that it increases the risk of burning your hair or eyebrows.

The problem with the yellow one is that the bowl is a little small which limits your bowl size and makes it easier for it to fall out accidentally, but I'd choose it over the others just because it's ceramic. Wood pipes are a lot harder to clean usually, even if it comes apart. And I don't like metal pipes because it just seems like it's a little worse for you, but I don't know that for sure.

Out of the three you listed I'd go with the first one because it's interesting for one thing, but also because smoking out of ceramic feels safer than smoking out of wood or metal :/ I'd say just go for glass. They tend to be more fragile but you can get some thick, sturdy ones. Glass pipes are usually way more expensive too, though. If you trust yourself to be careful with it, you can make a glass pipe last a long time, but if you just want something to smoke out of without the risk of breaking something you spent a lot of money on, any one of those is fine.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 18, 2010, 01:58:45 AM
yeah, the bowl size and the fact that metal gets hot (so goddamn annoying) fast are both a pain in the ass. I didn't know that about wood, but how hard can it be to get it decently clean? I don't really want anything glass because I just want it to be as portable as possible with as little risk of braking as possible.

So, something like this would be all around better?

http://www.grasscity.com/colored-and-fumed-spoon-13.html

http://www.grasscity.com/glass-pipe-inside-out-10.html

http://www.grasscity.com/molino-hurricane-spoon-4.html

Also, what the fuck is the difference between a spoon and a pipe?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 18, 2010, 03:41:59 PM
Those all look pretty nice. I would go with the last one for the colors but it looks like a lefty pipe. That doesn't really matter in the long run though. I'm not sure what the difference between a spoon and a normal pipe. From what I can tell it looks like it depends on the shape. The ones called spoons sorta look more like spoons?
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on July 18, 2010, 11:28:31 PM
Man, is it just me or are those things more expensive than in the local head shops around here.... I think a glass pipe like that last one should be about $10 cheaper at a head shop.

also, I have a story about last night, but I'm gonna wait till I feel like writing before I post it.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 19, 2010, 06:35:12 AM
yeah, I think I'm going to shop around at a local shop my friend knows of first.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 19, 2010, 02:28:33 PM
Good idea. I didn't realize how expensive the glass on Grasscity is :O
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on July 21, 2010, 06:36:02 PM
Try to find a smokeshop in your area.. Their glass pieces usually are heavier duty, you can handle them before you buy them, and you can typically find great deals. Like for mine I paid between $7 and 12, i forgot, but the glass is thick enough that I don't have to worry about breaking it unless I'm being fairly belligerent, and it smokes quite nicely with the carb it has. its a "spoon" shape, about 3-4 inches long and maybe an inch high, if that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on July 21, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
Yeah being able to handle it first is important too. You want one that's a comfortable fit in your hands. I also prefer to get one that's not prone rolling over when you set it down.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on July 21, 2010, 07:45:43 PM
Yea I forgot to mention that too, make sure it has a nice flat surface on the bottom of the bowl. It'll still knock over, but only if you're being a silly head
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on July 21, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
Good advice, I'll head to the gas station that sells them when I get my next hair cut.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on August 01, 2010, 07:26:15 PM
I got a dugout a few days ago. It's really convenient and I love being able to smoke pretty much wherever I like.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on August 02, 2010, 04:05:38 PM
Hint: To get kief out of those things, stick 'em in the freezer.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sqthreer! on September 22, 2010, 02:58:36 PM
I've decided to have another go at quitting smoking cigarettes. For the past few weeks I've been conditioning myself to associate another oral fixation to the urge to smoke (charms blowpops mmm..) so that anytime I get that urge I'll go the places I normally go to smoke and just sit there and suck on a lollipop instead.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on September 28, 2010, 03:15:01 AM
http://www.mfiles.org/Marijuana/Overview/index.htm

Quote
Myth 4: Marijuana is not associated with violence, as are drugs like cocaine and heroin.  It is the criminalization of marijuana that leads to crime, not the drug itself

Facts:
- It
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on September 28, 2010, 06:38:53 AM
while the US government has some retarded drug policies, the people who act like marijuana is the best thing ever for everything make me lol
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on September 28, 2010, 11:18:41 AM
Not saying it's the best thing ever, but if there's one thing marijuana doesn't do it's make people violent. It's why I checked the source. I'm pretty surprised a study that biased actually made it into a legit peer-reviewed medical journal.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on September 28, 2010, 05:51:25 PM
I wasn't necessarily referring to you. However:

STILL HAVEN'T DONE ANY DRUGS WOOOOOO
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on September 28, 2010, 08:28:11 PM
nigga u need to smoke dat shit because it's da bomb.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Milk Chan on October 11, 2010, 07:50:58 AM
I rolled for the first time back August. It was interesting, but definitely not something I would do on the regular...not someone to get addicted to shit anyways.

Also going to be buying pot brownies from my manager for a friend's birthday later this month haha.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on November 07, 2010, 12:51:44 PM
i just smoked out of a 3 foot bong with 2 percolators inside of it

GLORIOUS

holy fuck thats big



(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs580.ash2/150235_1241555077742_1195260652_31182514_4782993_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on December 14, 2010, 09:08:16 AM
God damn this Miley Cyrus bullshit. Tabloids are saying it's a warning sign that she's going to end up going with harder and harder drugs; but it's really, really not. I don't like Miley Cyrus, but I always get really pissed when people don't bother learning what a drug actually does before criticizing it. I mean if you're publishing a story on the internet, you necessarily have the tools to check your facts. It's not hard to not be ignorant about what you're writing.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on December 14, 2010, 04:19:40 PM
My mom mentioned that apparently she was smoking salvia. When I explained what salvia is, and that it's legal, my mom's response was "Oh, so she's basically gonna say 'it's legal, so screw you'". I laughed. My mom was pretty surprised that a drug with psychedelic effects like that is still legal in most places.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on December 14, 2010, 10:41:50 PM
A negative drug story. I was hanging at my friends house and he was smoking pills and weed, when all of a sudden cops knocked at his front door saying they knew he was hiding someone (he wasn't). So, while inside, they saw another friend hiding his weed and busted him, they asked to search his moms purse and found an empty bag with coke residue. So they both went to prison and my friend had to call his uncle (didn't want to call his father because his mom told him not to) for him to set bail.

so yeah, today sort of sucked.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on December 14, 2010, 11:19:16 PM
Ask to search: Say no. Could have all been prevented by asking them if they had a warrant to search. I know its hard to think of that shit in those stressful situation but they had no right to be in the house without one (assuming they didn't have one since it wasn't mentioned)

Got this off /b/, maybe it'll help people that post in this thread. Exercise and know your rights.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/SneakyMu/1287008377908.jpg)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 22, 2011, 04:42:22 AM
I didn't have a say. and now my friend is in jail or rehab.

but on a more positive note, I am shitfaced. I can do shots now and drink beer, so I am pleased.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 22, 2011, 04:17:40 PM
I didn't have a say. and now my friend is in jail or rehab.

Well shit, that's horrible :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on January 24, 2011, 02:45:49 PM
one time i was smoking weed and i got really mad and killed someone instead of eating and listening to music like everyone else does
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 24, 2011, 06:49:19 PM
It's illegal for a reason you gook faced faggot.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: K-Mann on January 24, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
Am I the only one here who has not done any of this? Ever?

Just curious.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on January 24, 2011, 11:36:25 PM
Am I the only one here who has not done any of this? Ever?

Just curious.

Naw, I doubt you're alone in that.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: 『フエハデ』 on January 24, 2011, 11:48:45 PM
Am I the only one here who has not done any of this? Ever?

Just curious.

o/

unless you're including social drinking without getting drunk or buzzed, anyway
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: K-Mann on January 25, 2011, 10:42:42 PM
No, I mean I have never had a drop of alcohol, never touched a cig in my life, and the closest I've been to drugs was when my friend called me on the phone while he was high on shrooms.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 25, 2011, 11:18:16 PM
I'm assuming you've had no curiosity then? Really? I find that rather odd.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 26, 2011, 10:45:56 AM
I'm assuming you've had no curiosity then? Really? I find that rather odd.

Same, I grew up in a house where none of that stuff was really present, except that my mom smokes, and I've ended up drinking, smoking (rarely, never enough to actually get addicted) and smoking weed on occasion (not nearly every day, or even every month).

Maybe it's because I grew up with none of that around me, but I was always curious about all that stuff even from an early age (I remember telling my parents that I was interested in alcohol when I was 12. Not about getting drunk, but about drinking alcoholic drinks).

In all honesty, I don't see why people bother not to try things once. I mean, if your smart about things it's not like getting smashed once is gonna fuck your life up, or that getting high will automatically make you into some useless porch monkey like the propaganda said it would. And I certainly disagree with anyone who thinks they are somehow superior for not having done anything.

I will respect someone's decision not to do any of that stuff. I do have a friend who basically doesn't do any of that at all, I dunno if he's ever had a drop of alcohol in his life and I actually respect him for his self control since I've seen him at parties with everyone drinking and stuff. But I disagree with any sort of ideology that it's better not to have at least tried things.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: K-Mann on January 26, 2011, 10:04:51 PM
In all honesty, I don't see why people bother not to try things once. I mean, if your smart about things it's not like getting smashed once is gonna fuck your life up, or that getting high will automatically make you into some useless porch monkey like the propaganda said it would. And I certainly disagree with anyone who thinks they are somehow superior for not having done anything.

I will respect someone's decision not to do any of that stuff. I do have a friend who basically doesn't do any of that at all, I dunno if he's ever had a drop of alcohol in his life and I actually respect him for his self control since I've seen him at parties with everyone drinking and stuff. But I disagree with any sort of ideology that it's better not to have at least tried things.

I never said that?

I apologize if I came across as high and mighty about it, but I've never had a reason for not trying it. I'd just rather... not.

I've been to a few parties where the bong and booze got passed around, and I just said "no thanks", and still enjoyed myself. I don't have anything against my friends partaking in it either - infact, they helped create some of the funniest memories I have.

A drink isn't gonna kill me the first time, nor is a blunt gonna fuck me up for the rest of my life (this was a for real poster in my high school and I was forced to take classes on it and everything). I just don't think I'd find it as enjoyable as other people. And who knows, maybe one day I'll try 'em out. But I don't feel superior for having not.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on January 27, 2011, 12:21:46 AM
In all honesty, I don't see why people bother not to try things once. I mean, if your smart about things it's not like getting smashed once is gonna fuck your life up, or that getting high will automatically make you into some useless porch monkey like the propaganda said it would. And I certainly disagree with anyone who thinks they are somehow superior for not having done anything.

I will respect someone's decision not to do any of that stuff. I do have a friend who basically doesn't do any of that at all, I dunno if he's ever had a drop of alcohol in his life and I actually respect him for his self control since I've seen him at parties with everyone drinking and stuff. But I disagree with any sort of ideology that it's better not to have at least tried things.

Oh Bobbias; how I love you and your extremely presumptuous attitude.

PS You're not alone, Mr. Kraezymann.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 27, 2011, 03:20:31 AM
I think he was making a generalization, and not specifically talking about him.

Also I'm still a bit lost as to the why, but shit, if you don't want to do it don't. Basically someone who doesn't respect people who don't drink or smoke is not someone you want to associate with.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on January 27, 2011, 04:11:07 AM
I think he was making a generalization, and not specifically talking about him.

...which is an "extremely presumptuous attitude", last time I checked.

I have multiple reasons as to why I do not want to try smoking tobacco/weed, and multiple reasons why I do not want to drink to drunkenness (the idea of a little bit of alcohol is permissible.) One of those reasons is that I am Buddhist, which specifically bans "intoxication". But no: it must be because of "drug propaganda" and maybe even elitism!

PS:

But I disagree with any sort of ideology that it's better not to have at least tried things.

I find solace in my religion and culture in a world filled with people who think like you. I would rather not indulge in things I have no interest in than be like you, thanks.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 27, 2011, 10:00:43 PM
You're taking offense because he disagrees with your religion/ideology? the fuck? I really don't see how you can claim any sort of superiority when you both just hold differing opinions.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on January 28, 2011, 12:45:44 AM
You're taking offense because he disagrees with your religion/ideology?

Now you're seeing shit that isn't there, too?

I take offense at how he seems to imply the only options are government indoctrination or elitism, when none of my reasons are either of those things.

Stop smoking so much weed.

/ishemad

//yeahhemad
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on January 28, 2011, 04:24:41 AM
Now you're seeing shit that isn't there, too?

I take offense at how he seems to imply the only options are government indoctrination or elitism, when none of my reasons are either of those things.

Oh, didn't catch that. Yeah, I disagree, nothing is black and white.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 28, 2011, 02:08:02 PM
Did I say that those were the only two reasons people would not want to drink alcohol or do drugs? I was generalizing, because I personally can't understand why people have a problem with either form of intoxication, and the majority of people I have met (note MAJORITY) who don't partake in either have fallen into those two categories. Hell, my mom didn't drink because her father was a bad drunk when she was younger, and because she had a problem a while ago with it as well. My dad doesn't drink because he used to get sick every time (I think he might be allergic to alcohol). Neither of them have stopped drinking for the reasons I mentioned in that post.

Also, AA, while I quite like most of the ideals of Buddhism, the no intoxication thing is one that I have disagreed with since I found out about it. I'd legitimately like to know why Buddhism does not want people to become intoxicated.

I apologize if I came across as high and mighty about it, but I've never had a reason for not trying it. I'd just rather... not.

No need to apologize. I didn't really mean to imply that you came off that way or anything, sorry if it felt that way when I made that post. Sometimes when I make posts online certain things get lost in translation from idea to post, I did kinda want to make it more clear that I wasn't implying that you were that kind of person.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: K-Mann on January 28, 2011, 04:41:42 PM
No need to apologize. I didn't really mean to imply that you came off that way or anything, sorry if it felt that way when I made that post. Sometimes when I make posts online certain things get lost in translation from idea to post, I did kinda want to make it more clear that I wasn't implying that you were that kind of person.

Water under the bridge, bro. Its all good. I get all sorts of weird responses when I say that I haven't, and its not the first time I got a response like yours  :P and like I said, I personally have nothing against it, its just that I would rather not. Just one of my quirks I suppose.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on January 29, 2011, 02:17:14 AM
PS:

I find solace in my religion and culture in a world filled with people who think like you. I would rather not indulge in things I have no interest in than be like you, thanks.

just sayin this statement does in fact come off INCREDIBLY arrogant regardless of whether you meant it or not; i definitely see where mortified got his response from.

also K-Mann, am I assuming you also have friends that stay sober with you as well? if you're the only one that's staying sober, then i find that really interesting.

and on another note: i was raised christian as fuck and asian as fuck. despite that, my friends were pretty normal and had normal lives with them, it was just average families with average lives. i'm really impressed at what effect social pressure has on you, because before the moment I puffed that joint, I had no intention of even trying it. in front of my friends, when everyone else is? sure why not.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on January 31, 2011, 07:57:48 AM
k I'm back from my self-imposed break

stuff

Sorry about that. That kind of generalization has done a lot to me socially in the past ("You don't like girls? You must be gay; no such thing as asexuality!"), so whenever I see it used in something that personally relates to me, I get offended. Really offended. Admittedly (and hypocritically), I do generalize a lot right back.

The intox thing is related to always having a clear mind; to have a clear and unclouded mind is to have a sort of "Buddha status".

just sayin this statement does in fact come off INCREDIBLY arrogant regardless of whether you meant it or not; i definitely see where mortified got his response from.

You haven't lived my life, bro. My experiences shaped my opinions and my attitudes.

and on another note: i was raised christian as fuck and asian as fuck. despite that, my friends were pretty normal and had normal lives with them, it was just average families with average lives. i'm really impressed at what effect social pressure has on you, because before the moment I puffed that joint, I had no intention of even trying it. in front of my friends, when everyone else is? sure why not.

I was raised "Asian as fuck", too, and I never felt the need to be like anyone else; know why? Because I wasn't like anyone else! I related to almost no one growing up, and it wasn't until I was able to associate exclusively with other Asians (irl ofc; ilu pale-skinned QTs that post here) that I felt I belonged somewhere.

Shit; all my teen years did to me was give me an unwarranted sense of racial superiority and extremely bigoted opinions towards certain darker-skinned individuals. And yes: I do see the irony in having black guys in my av and sig.

The point of this? Koreans eat dog and never learned how to kick Western missionaries out of their country like we did <3
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on January 31, 2011, 10:49:55 AM
Sorry about that. That kind of generalization has done a lot to me socially in the past ("You don't like girls? You must be gay; no such thing as asexuality!"), so whenever I see it used in something that personally relates to me, I get offended. Really offended. Admittedly (and hypocritically), I do generalize a lot right back.

Ahh, well that sucks. I'm aware of asexuality, and although it's somewhat rare, it's certainly not unheard of (statistically, though I know most people have no fucking idea about it, unfortunately), so I can see where your coming from there.

The intox thing is related to always having a clear mind; to have a clear and unclouded mind is to have a sort of "Buddha status".

Ahh. Personally, I have never understood why people change so much when they drink. I am almost as clear minded when drunk as I am sober, and my personality hardly changes. I am more susceptible to suggestion when drunk, but I believe that can be overcome by forcing myself to think clearly. Even when I was drunk enough to have alcohol poisoning, I had the clarity of mind to tell my friend not to speed, while he was doing about 120 on a highway with a limit at 80. I believe that nearly all of the effects of being drunk that are seen as intoxication are purely because a person, when drunk, believes that's how they should be (subconsciously). So that's part of the reason that drinking to the point of being drunk shouldn't be an issue, but I certainly understand where that's coming from. It takes a lot of mental strength to be able to think clearly when drunk.

As for the rest of it, my parents have been quite open and liberal about a lot of stuff (basically not religious, open about sexuality, no discrimination, etc.), and despite the anti-drug/anti-drinking aspect, I've always felt that I should keep an open mind about drugs, because even if my parents couldn't be open about them, I thought that the values of being open minded should apply to everything, not just some subjects.

Of course, I've had my share of shitty stuff in my life. I was REALLY picked on through most of elementary school, and somewhat in highschool, which has contributed to some social anxiety, among other things. I actually think that's why I rely so much on spectere.net as somewhere I can speak my mind openly, and as often as I feel. Sometimes I feel like you guys are more my friends than most people I know IRL.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: K-Mann on February 01, 2011, 10:09:39 PM
I actually think that's why I rely so much on spectere.net as somewhere I can speak my mind openly, and as often as I feel. Sometimes I feel like you guys are more my friends than most people I know IRL.

<3 bby.

also K-Mann, am I assuming you also have friends that stay sober with you as well? if you're the only one that's staying sober, then i find that really interesting.

Its usually just me. Once in a while a buddy might not want any and join me with a Ginger Ale (fucking amazing seriously the Canada Dry stuff is amazing and better than Schwepps sorry) and whoever the DD is will be sober too (I usually don't drive). Sometimes if I'm feeling particularly nasty I will start trying to manipulate people into drinking more lmfao they get sooo funny and almost bend to my will it rules
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on February 02, 2011, 05:22:40 PM
Got a new piece.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/annonymous/piece.png)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on February 18, 2011, 04:47:18 AM
HURR DURR MY LIFE EXPERIENCES TRUMP YOURS

holy shit you are so cool i will never amount to being as good of a person as you

Get the fuck off your high horse.

PS If you weren't like anyone else, you clearly weren't liked in high school. Way to go, hope you have a great life telling your kids- oh wait, you're asexual DHURRRRRR NOT BEING TO ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE IS SO HIPSTER NOW 8)

In b4 someone says something about LIFE'S NOT ABOUT WHO LIKES YOU HURR HURRR. Get real. It is.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 18, 2011, 07:17:17 PM
PS If you weren't like anyone else, you clearly weren't liked in high school. Way to go, hope you have a great life telling your kids- oh wait, you're asexual DHURRRRRR NOT BEING TO ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE IS SO HIPSTER NOW 8)

In b4 someone says something about LIFE'S NOT ABOUT WHO LIKES YOU HURR HURRR. Get real. It is.

So he should change how he acts and is seen for better social acceptance? I bet you very popular, and a lot of people know you exist.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on February 18, 2011, 08:29:00 PM
Hey sup guys

I changed my mind. I decided I'm going to do drugs and have wanton sex just so I can fit in. Obviously being who I am was just me trying to be hip and "different". You've showed me the way.

So he should change how he acts and is seen for better social acceptance? I bet you very popular, and a lot of people know you exist.

but but that's all there is to life mort

because life = social standing in high school and high school never ends

Also:

PS If you weren't like anyone else, you clearly weren't liked in high school.

I was actually well-liked in high school. No one ever bothered me, and I was on good terms with just about everyone. I just didn't have close friends. BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW BETTER THAN ME, YOU SMART DRUGGIE YOU
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: flaffl on February 21, 2011, 04:51:46 AM
hey sup guys i changed my mind too, i decided i'm not going to to drugs and reclaim myself as a virgin. obviously being who i am was just me trying to be one with the crowd. you've showed me the way too.

a good idea is also making really irrational comparisons and analogies to what i'm saying in order to make me look lesser than you. you were the one that brought up this whole idea of high school, so you're pretty much saying that to yourself. also, don't mean to sound like a pretentious douchebag, but you're obviously jelly of those who were the popular kids if you're bashing on the importance of popularity in high school. yeah, i'll agree with you that high schools a fucking shallow place, but those who enjoyed it (though it doesn't even come close to college one bit) clearly enjoyed a popular stint or at least invested in good friendships at the students in high school. why else would you talk down about those people? if you weren't jelly at all, then you wouldn't need to talk about it.

also to mortified, i never said he should change, but moreover realize that this world is a lot more shady and shallow than you think and that looks and personality have a huge say in life (primarily, first impressions). like the saying goes, life's kinda about who you know, not what you know. whats the first thing that you do when you want to get a job? do an interview. get to know the person, know what they're like, and see if they qualify to your liking. it's the way life works dawg. or you could get stuck with doing something you absolutely love but earns little money. it's the tug-of-war of life.

regardless of whatever, put this issue behind you. i'll apologize for being a douchebag earlier about my comments concerning your sexual orientation and yaddawhatnot, but your bitchy stuck-up attitude about drugs needs to change. whoops, looks like I ended up telling you to change. but seriously, i don't know if you actually meant to sound all high and mighty earlier but even if the intentions were good, the outcome is what matters. if you're going to come into a discussion where the topic is practically a person's lifestyle, be a little more conscious of other people.

in other news, i will be taking a tolerance break, but how long should a legit tolerance break be? I wanna get back to feeling those AWESOME levels of high again but it's been a while since I've cracked up mindlessly at a wall.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Kulli on February 21, 2011, 06:07:37 AM
lol at the wall of text I didn't read. I don't care about you or your opinions of me bro

last post in this thread; nice job wasting your time

PS I'm not checking back, so don't bother writing a reply
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on February 21, 2011, 09:29:46 PM
also to mortified, i never said he should change, but moreover realize that this world is a lot more shady and shallow than you think and that looks and personality have a huge say in life (primarily, first impressions). like the saying goes, life's kinda about who you know, not what you know. whats the first thing that you do when you want to get a job? do an interview. get to know the person, know what they're like, and see if they qualify to your liking. it's the way life works dawg. or you could get stuck with doing something you absolutely love but earns little money. it's the tug-of-war of life.

There's a difference between impressing and clicking with "people of power" and being a popular guy in high school. Not that I hated popular people (close friend of mine was on the football team and fairly popular) but most highschool kids are morons and the popular ones are the dumbest of the dumb.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Sneaky on February 21, 2011, 11:44:04 PM
Why do people quit posting after having a disagreement :( I know I've had plenty of that in-your-face style argument from many sources and I just love discussing shit on these forums with you guys I've known for years, like, what? 8-9 years?  We all have different lifestyles and it does suck that some people can't accept that, or completely reject anyone else with a different opinion that expresses it strongly.

oh well,
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on February 22, 2011, 02:18:39 PM
Why do people quit posting after having a disagreement :( I know I've had plenty of that in-your-face style argument from many sources and I just love discussing shit on these forums with you guys I've known for years, like, what? 8-9 years?  We all have different lifestyles and it does suck that some people can't accept that, or completely reject anyone else with a different opinion that expresses it strongly.

oh well,

I completely agree with you here. I enjoy having heated discussions, but all too often it ends up resulting in someone getting fed up and leaving.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 26, 2011, 09:09:59 PM
So to revive the original topic of this thread, I just ate some shrooms. Looking forward to an awesome night. Its my anniversary with my GF and we're both taking them as something to do for our anniversary. Apparently she hates the taste lol. It doesn't really bother me that much, but it is pretty bad tasting. I'll try to remember to update this sometime during the trip, because we'll be staying in for the trip this time. Last time we went n a long-ass walk, and spent the whole time discussing shit, but this time there are people over, and it's cold out, so we're basically just gonna hang out in her room, and shit.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Jupi on March 26, 2011, 11:28:00 PM
Be sure to clean up when you're done.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Vinshuka on March 27, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
It was a disaster....
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on March 27, 2011, 10:42:48 PM
Yeah, I ended up feeling like shit the whole time, and not even really getting that high. I basically just laid on her bed getting chills and feeling sick from 9 till 12 trying to go to sleep and being unable to sleep till like, 3:30. Vinshuka had some bad experiences while the lights were off because she was still actually tripping :/

At about 3, I tried to get some water. I ended up nearly passing out standing. I got dizzy, the blood pressure in my head was high, and I basically went blind and deaf and got so weak I could barely move. And at the time time when I went to the bathroom because of that, Vinshuka tried to go to the basement bathroom and the same thing happened to her.

So yeah, it was pretty much a disaster...

But I still want to do shrooms again sometime (preferably during the day, and when it's warm outside.)
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 06, 2011, 11:41:52 PM
Weird, that's unusual, I've almost never become physically ill from mushrooms, and I've taken them a bunch of times. Maybe they were moldy or something... :s

Last weekend I took the last of my 2c-p, and proceeded to have some of the most intense visuals of my life... for 16 hours. By the end I was just pissed off, hahahaha.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 07, 2011, 12:58:45 AM
Man, I'd love to try some 2C-P. I've always been interested in psychedelics, but after my first shroom trip I've REALLY wanted to try some of the more intense ones.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Ulti on April 07, 2011, 05:03:23 AM
2c-p is not really that intense honestly... it just lasts for a fucking long time, it's pretty mellow and slow-acting, and isn't exactly as much fun per se as other psychedelics, since it's not too euphoric. I still prefer acid by a long shot, but I think I like 2c-p more than mushrooms, just because I really dislike how moody I get with them.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: Bobbias on April 07, 2011, 09:03:31 AM
Ahh, cool. Ultimately, I'd like to try DMT, but somehow I don't think that' gonna happen for a long time :/
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: annon on July 14, 2011, 05:05:25 AM
I tried some spice called Diablo tonight. It was hellish. It wasn't at all like weed, and turned out to be a pretty powerful hallucinogen. Me and 2 friends each took one hit of it, and all 3 of us had pretty horrible trips.

Basically, the 3 of us loaded a bowl, we each took one hit, and then we all started feeling the effects. To me it felt like the front of me was really heavy, so I sat down on the floor in front of my laptop. I pulled up a couple of websites, then I started feeling pretty bad, so I did what I always do when a drug starts to make me feel uncomfortable: Opened up foobar. I didn't feel like going through my music library, so I just played whatever I'd left there last time, which ended up being this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaouJ6ufLE)

From here out was a blur. I ended up laying on the ground in a fetal position with my eyes closed. I remember at one point I could hear a bunch of voices that I knew were external; it was my friends talking. But in my head these were disembodied voices floating around (really the best way I can describe it; I don't even know how many dimensions my closed-eye visuals had). I couldn't make sense of the language, and I couldn't stand the voices, but all I could do was yell "Go away! Go away!" until my friends stopped talking.

Then it gradually got worse, but I could still hear the music. When I listened, I remembered: I'm in a room. I'm laying on a carpet. I'm in front of my laptop. There are 2 other people here. I took a drug. Time is still working. This will end. And really, that thought was all that kept me from completely losing it. Of course, being aware of the outside world really just meant that I was stuck in this trip by myself, and no one else could do anything to make it better.

I can't even describe what the trip was like from here, just that it was extremely unpleasant. The visuals were complex and frightening. I felt a bunch of totally alien emotions which were all very horrible. I kept sinking down, lower and lower, until I finally started to realize that the effects were weakening and I was regaining control of my mind. In my head I was at war. After some fighting, I managed to open my eyes and sit up. Ten minutes had passed since I started the song. It felt like at least an hour.

I was really thirsty, so I got a cup and filled it with water. I took a sip and sat down on the couch. 30 seconds later I ran to the bathroom and puked until there was nothing left, and then some. The whole time I was puking I was yelling stuff like "WHY THE FUCK DO WE DO THIS?" and "WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE JUST WATCHED A MOVIE OR SOMETHING?"

One of my friends made tea, and when I got out of the bathroom I waited for my stomach to settle down and then I drank some. The hot liquid felt great, and a few minutes later (about 30 minutes after I'd smoked in the first place), I felt totally sober. No afterglow, no headache, no speech impediment, no weird prickly feeling; just as sober as I'd felt before we smoked.

So I threw out the rest of that spice, we all went to a nearby convenience store to pick up a couple of frozen pizzas, and then we ate and went on with our night as we would've had we stayed sober.

So I will say there are a few relatively good things about Diablo: It lets you remember where you are and what has happened, it doesn't last very long, and it lets you have your night back after it's done fucking your brain.

Seriously, fuck that shit. Last time I try any kind of drug before getting an idea of what to expect. That was a stupid move on all of our parts, and we all know it, so that's not going to happen again.
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: MortifiedocAlot on November 21, 2011, 04:07:38 AM
I tried some spice called Diablo tonight. It was hellish.

I c wut u did thar.

Also interesting story, had a friend call me up tonight and he asked if I wanted to go to a fellow friends house. When he gets to my house, he asks if I can drive because he was too high too. I do, and we begin to drive to a third friends house, on the way there he describes how he was getting stoned at a different guys house, he got completely out of his skull high and felt awkward about being there, so he left in a hurry and went to my house (which is close). When we get to my friends place his dog is going apeshit and he's playing guitar loud as fuck. So we smoke a bowl and he starts rambling about bullshit for a solid 2 hours. Then he eats a ton, comes down a bit, and says that his experience was just terrible. We recorded it when he just got there and I can't wait to listen to it later (not to sound like dicks, but we have started recording out conversations for some reason).
Title: Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
Post by: 『フエハデ』 on November 23, 2011, 12:12:58 PM
the spice must flow