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The Chatterbox => Gaming => Topic started by: Alice on November 30, 2007, 09:57:28 PM
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wen i git my adaptar ampersand dnase mat wut gaems shuld i git 4 stepmania lulz!
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Get Blur.
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No, Blur Speedy Mix.
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No, Blur Speedy Mix.
That exists? What.
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I meen liek noob music guys
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CHARIOTS OF FIRE
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That questionably legal place that I linked you to via PM is probably the best start you can get for padstuffs (it has all of the DDR mixes). :3
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That questionably legal place that I linked you to via PM is probably the best start you can get for padstuffs (it has all of the DDR mixes). :3
Awesome man you're a hero <3
Also: my first pad = some used (possibly crappy?) Madcatz thing? it's blue lozl, they call it a "Beat Pad(tm)," but I'm not sure if I'd beat on it. I already tested all of the buttons in Windows and they work, so when I finally install Debian in this 1.0 Ghz (I think) HP, I'll be able to jam on that nickel until I get my new adapter (and then I'll probably STILL use that computer lolz).
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Madcatz.. Used.. And it still works? That in itself is a miracle.
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Yeah, what Bobbias said. XD
The Mad Catz pads are good starter pads. I don't know if EB Games/GameStop still offers this, but they used to have $3 warranties on the pads -- if anything went wrong in a year they'd replace it for free. I'm not sure if they still offer it but it's worth a shot.
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It's definitely worth it with pads like that, lol.
I've got one of the official pads that got packaged with my DDR, and it's already had a bit of an issue, the start button randomly started to go off and stuff. It stopped a while back, but I had to use tape to separate the contacts for a while for it to work without fucking up... And that's an official pad.
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Strange...I've heard generally good reports about Konami soft pads. Exception to the rule, perhaps?
Soft pads are generally best for things rated under 9 or 10. I find those to be considerably anything above, say, an 8 to be considerably easier at the arcade. :P
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It's funny, because whenever I've played, I tend to do a lot better on soft pads, because I don't have to step very hard at all for it to register, and I can drag my feet all day long and still hit things.
And yeah, the pad I got with DDR Extreme is great, much better than all the other soft pads I've tried. It's held up quite well over the last few months of playing 10's and 11's in ITG.
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I've wanted to get a pad for quite some time, to hook up to my computer for use with stepmania. How much would it cost, and how difficult would it be to obtain/set up?
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I've wanted to get a pad for quite some time, to hook up to my computer for use with stepmania. How much would it cost, and how difficult would it be to obtain/set up?
I got a $15 PSX>USB adapter ($4 shipping) from Play-Asia that is extremely sure to work, and a used madcatz pad from a local used game store for $10. So, about $30 (although there is a way to modify the Stepmania source code in Linux so that you can use cheaper adapters, like the Radio Shack adapter. I'm trying to do this as I type since my adapter hasn't arrived yet).
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Or you could make a ghetto solution like I plan on doing, lol. Serial/Parallel input FTW.
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Pooptop:/home/kuroneko/StepMania-3.9# ./stepmania
StepMania 3.9
Log starting 2007-12-02 12:27:53
Loading window: sdl
OS: Linux ver 020618
Crash backtrace component: x86 custom backtrace
Crash lookup component: dladdr
Crash demangle component: cxa_demangle
Runtime library: glibc 2.3.6
Threads library: NPTL 2.3.6
TLS is available
/////////////////////////////////////////
WARNING: Unknown sound driver name: ALSA
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WARNING: Unknown sound driver name: ALSA-sw
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Mixing 0.000000 ahead in 0 Mix() calls
Couldn't load driver OSS: RageSound_OSS: ALSA detected. ALSA OSS emulation is buggy; use ALSA natively.
Language: english
Theme: default
Error: Couldn't find a sound driver that works
Pooptop:/home/kuroneko/StepMania-3.9#
HLP PLZ
I already managed to compile StepMania 3.9 from the source code, so I've already won an internet... looks like my drivers suck though.
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For whatever reason, your copy of StepMania doesn't seem to be compiled with ALSA support. :/
What distro are you using?
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The problem was is that I was missing ALSA. I fixed that, but I also downloaded ffmpeg, and now it fails to compile. Whoever released the StepMania source did a really shitty job (I've had to put three fix patches on it and it still won't compile properly). Apparently my new problem can be fixed by getting an old version of ffmpeg but I don't know how to do that.
http://rafb.net/p/JojivV32.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3256825.html
I might as well wait for the god damn cable and use the linux binary :P
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No, the problem is probably that Lua 5.1 and/or ffmpeg breaks support for older programs; the SM team has nothing to do with that.
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The SM team should be around to fix their programs to be compatable with the newest shit around.
Anyway, after getting rid of ffmpeg (since I can't find the older version, and apparently the binary on the SM website doesn't have ffmpeg either) I got it to compile completely. Then, it bitched about my video card (i810 I guess) not being able to work with OpenGL and that I should get a new driver. I got the new driver but now it says I need a whole shitload of other shit that I can't seem to find (failed dependencies)
ld-linux.so.2
libc.so.6
libdl.so.2
libm.so.6
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0)
libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1)
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
#MZX has been completely worthless for the past few hours. Anybody here help? :(
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They do; that's why StepMania 4.0 works fine with all of that stuff (it's still in heavy development but it is pretty stable in my experience, for the most part). You can't possibly expect them to maintain versions that are several years old to fix problems that don't even stem from their code, especially considering it's a fairly small development team. Going through that large of a project to fix issues caused by new versions of libraries is an immense amount of work.
Anyway, are you getting those errors when you attempt to run the binary or when you build it? If you're getting those problems after compiling it it would seem like there's a problem with your toolchain. Those kind of errors are the result of a program being built against an older version of glibc (the C library -- a core system library). Binary compatibility isn't maintained between many releases of glibc due to a number of factors; compiling is the only real way to solve that.
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Damn good example of dependency hell.
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The latest set of errors, I got from running RPM and trying to install my video card driver. StepMania crashed because my video card couldn't handle OpenGL (apparently a problem with i810? Anyway, it told me to update the drivers, and when I tried to, it gave me a crapload of dependencies that it needs that I have no idea what to do about).
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I had the i810 working in Gentoo before, direct rendering and all.
Start X and open Konsole/Terminal/Xterm/whatever. Type "glxinfo | grep direct". What does it say?
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X won't even start. It says it's already active. It also says there's a file in /tmp that isn't. WTF.
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http://www.angelfire.com/stars5/shortysnmn2010/Albumix.htm
Albumix for pad.
For a pad game, get Mungyodance 2.
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X won't even start. It says it's already active. It also says there's a file in /tmp that isn't. WTF.
Try going Ctrl+Alt+F7. If it's running it should show up in that virtual "terminal."
Also, what distribution are you using?
For a pad game, get Mungyodance 2.
Seconded (Windows only for the full experience so you'll have to wait for the adapter).
Or you could wait for Mungyodance 3, which is somehow awesomer than MGD2.
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Ctrl+Alt+F7 doesn't do anything. I'm running Debian 4.0 "Etch"
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Hmm...
Type startx at the prompt and post the error lines that come up on the screen (they should have "(EE)" before them). If you see a "no screens found," post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well.
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Pooptop:/home/kuroneko# startx
xauth: creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.2085
X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
and start again.
Pooptop:/home/kuroneko#
:(
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Oh.
The reason you probably aren't seeing that file is because files beginning with a period are, by default, hidden by ls. This is to make your home directory appear less cluttered.
Do "ls -a /tmp" and you should see ".X0-lock" -- delete it and try starting X.
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Oh.
The reason you probably aren't seeing that file is because files beginning with a period are, by default, hidden by ls. This is to make your home directory appear less cluttered.
Do "ls -a /tmp" and you should see ".X0-lock" -- delete it and try starting X.
You're awesome xD
Looks like X-Window system is running now; what exactly is the point of it? I notice that it says "root's Home" instead of "kuroneko's Home," and that my ecchi desktop is now a debian symbol. Lolz. Also, xterm works now. Neato. Also it's as slow as hell (compared to what I was just using...).
Also, the command "glxinfo" still doesn't exist. Dubbya tee eff.
Okay, after getting mesa-utils (which I thought I had but apparently not) it works now.
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Inderect
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The X Window system is basically like the GUI of Windows. It keeps you from having to stare at a command prompt all day. It also provides numerous services to applications, such as hardware abstracted graphics acceleration and the like.
As for why your desktop is different, you were logged in as root when you were at that command prompt. When you see a pound sign (#) as the prompt, you are root. When you see a dollar sign, you are an unprivileged user (in this case, kuroneko).
Don't drop out of root yet; drop back into a normal command prompt and type "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
I don't remember what Debian's default configuration looks like, but they're generally all pretty similar. In the Module section of the file, make sure that these two lines exist:
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
If they exist but are commented (i.e. have a pound sign in front of them, just like MegaZeux's config), uncomment them.
Now stroll down to the ServerLayout section. Take a look at what the Screen line says. Now, look for the Screen section that has that identifier. When you get there, look at the Device line. Now, as you may have guessed, you're going to want to look for the Device section that has that name.
Somewhere in that Device section you should see a Driver line. Make sure that the driver is set to "i810".
Now, at the end of the file, add the following lines if they aren't already there:
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
That section allows non-root users to use hardware acceleration.
Alright, now try to start X.
If X fails to start you'll probably need to install the i810 module. Start up aptitude, type forward-slash, then "i810" to search for it. Repeat the search (just press forward-slash, then enter, and it'll give you the next result) until you get to the appropriate package (it's called "xf86-video-i810" in Gentoo; I think it has a similar name in Debian). Press shift+=, then 'g' twice to install it. Quit aptitude and try starting X again.
When you get X running, do the "glxinfo | grep direct" again.
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xorg.conf was already set up like that. There wasn't anything, at all, that I had to change. Also I hate my comma key so if I stop using it at any point just pretend there's a bunch of commas there. :)
It's called XFCom-i810-glibc2_1-1_0_0-rh61_i386.rpm, and it's sitting in /home/kuroneko because I have no idea what to do with it; all I know is that it's the latest driver for the i810. X is running fine and glxinfo is returning the exact same thing.
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That file is an RPM so your package manager won't work with it (Debian's package manager works with deb files). Also, it's for an older version of glibc than your install has (that one's for 2.1; Debian Etch has 2.2.X installed) so, more than likely, it won't work even if you used an RPM installer to add it to your system (not that I recommend that -- using multiple package managers is a big no-no).
Take a look through aptitude to see if there's a kernel module for the i810 driver. If so, install it, reboot, and try again. If not, you're probably going to have to recompile your kernel. If it gets to that point, your best bet would probably be to let me ssh into your box if at all possible -- configuring a kernel is kinda tough, not to mention that it's a tricky process to explain.
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Too bad there isn't an easy way to say, "Hey, fuckbag, directly render this shit or else I'll rope your balls and drag you along i25 at 88 miles per hour. You'd wish you were Marty fucking McFly then."
Doesn't look like there's much else I can do than recompile; I'll go back and see if I missed something, though.
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Yeah, I feel like doing the exact same thing sometimes. Linux can be bitchy at times.
Also, your Crocomire avatar is hilarious.
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Yeah, I feel like doing the exact same thing sometimes. Linux can be bitchy at times.
Also, your Crocomire avatar is hilarious.
Glad I'm not the only one <3
You mean, the one with 16-bit Crocomire animating on 8-bit Ridley blocks? You're silly xD
When you recompile a Linux kernel, are any files elsewhere lost? IE downloaded packages, /home/blah.
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Linux can be bitchy at times.
Understatement detected!!!
There is absolutely no reason my computer shouldn't run linux, but every single time I try to install it, something goes horribly wrong and linux blows up, or windows blows up.
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You mean, the one with 16-bit Crocomire animating on 8-bit Ridley blocks? You're silly xD
YES.
When you recompile a Linux kernel, are any files elsewhere lost? IE downloaded packages, /home/blah.
Negative -- it's just like compiling any other program.