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« Reply #375 on: May 21, 2008, 11:40:33 PM »
Fuck, I need more friends into that sort of shit.

When I tried Salvia all I got was a quick headrush, but that was from smoking one bowl in a pipe of 5x extract.
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« Reply #376 on: May 27, 2008, 11:40:47 PM »
I've got to try salvia sometime. I also really wanna give DMT a shot. My friend was actually considering trying to synthesize it himself.

So I've got another shroom trip story to tell. It's got a dramatic climax, too :O

About three or four months ago, I was over at my friend's house (the one who I just mentioned was gonna make DMT) and he lives with a few other roommates. Jon (my friend) was trying to stay away from hallucinatory drugs for a while at the time, so he didn't partake, but two of his roommates (Jesse and his girlfriend Amy, who I'm kind of good friends with as well) each took a half-eighth, while I took a whole eighth, which was pretty much just one giant cap of, I think a stuntzii. Jon smoked some bowls, though, so he didn't feel too left out.

WORD OF THE WISE: Do not trip with someone who is not going to as well. Regardless of how well you think you can handle it, it's going to be at least a little bit awkward.

Okay back to the story...

So there were four of us, and it was about noon when we took them, so as we were coming up, we took a walk out in the foresty area outside my friends' house. Well it was kinda weird because it was a sunny day and there were a few people out walking their dogs. I think I might have come up faster than my friends because I was feeling it within ten minutes, and one of the dogs, a black terrier I think, made eye contact with me, and I felt some weird connection with it. I won't even try to describe it, but I can say it was something you can only experience on shrooms, heh.

Well as the other two people started to feel it, being outside in a town inhabited by snobby, rich white people, and a police force who have nothing better to do than stop any random person on the sidewalk seemed like kind of a bad idea, so we went back inside. Well for most of the first couple hours, we played CoD 4, which was WAY intense and awesome. It seriously felt like you were there. Like... seriously.

This trip was the first I've had full-on hallucinations. There was this fake plant on a table behind a couch, that was about three feet tall, and had kind of large wide leaves. One time when I looked at it, the leaves where slowly curling and waving around, and each leaf was smoothly alternating different colors. It was as clear as day and totally crazy. Also, the view out the window was into the forest we wandered through, and all the tree branches overlapping each other formed this insane, shifting, branch fractal (the only way I can think to describe it). There was this poster on the wall that had kind of a black border of flame-ish designs, and as I looked at it, the flames danced very similarly to how real flames do.

So later in the day, Jesse and Amy were just starting to come down, and decided to go upstairs with Jon to make some food. I had a sudden strong urge to masturbate (XD) so I went in the bathroom and tried, but if you've ever tried to jerk off or have sex on shrooms, you'll know that it's nigh impossible. I don't know why, chemically, but it just doesn't happen, or is really hard.

THE CLIMAX!!!

So after a couple minutes of that, I decided to run upstairs and see what they were all doing. They were cooking food and talking about stuff, and I just leaned against the counter and listened in. But after a minute or two, I started getting headrushes. Like, REALLY intense ones. And I had never had a head rush during a trip before, and there were really weird thoughts going through my head that I can only describe as layers of existence-questioning thoughts, each one more deep and convoluted than the previous. It was way more complex than that, but I can't remember any specifics. Then there was one last head rush, which was the most intense of them all. So intense that I started to lose my sense of sight. The last thing I remember doing was reaching up to my head and getting ready to say something to Jon, and then I woke up on the kitchen floor with my glasses broken and my friends calling out my name.

Apparently I fainted and fell face first onto the floor, and was out for about ten seconds before I came to. It was the weirdest experience of my life, because I have never fainted before, nor even come close to it. And not only that, but I was still hella tripping at the time. So I just sat up and the first thing I asked, obviously, was, "What happened?" they told me I fainted. Then I asked, "Did anyone call anybody?" hoping no one called the ambulance or something. They didn't, so that was good. Then after sitting for about ten minutes (which I recall only feeling like a minute or two) Jesse, who was kind of freaked out by the incident, naturally, and was sitting on the floor, started to convulse a little bit and had what I assume was a mild seizure, which only lasted for about five seconds before he went unconscious. Amy was totally terrified and was screaming his name, and I just jumped up onto my feet and was still totally dazed and had no idea wtf was going on. He woke up a few seconds later and immediately apologized, because he had been in a similar shroom situation involving someone fainting, and he had freaked himself out into a slight panic-attack. Eventually we went back downstairs and just kinda chilled out for a while, and that was pretty much the end of the evening.

Overall, I would say it was a good trip :]

As for an explanation of why I fainted, I concluded it was because of a few key reasons: 1) I was getting over a cold (yes I know it was dumb to trip in this condition, but I was excited) 2) I went right from a strenuous activity (jerkin' the gherkin) to 3) running upstairs into the kitchen where 4) it was hot due to food being made on the stove. I'm also prone to getting head rushes when I stand up quite often in general.

So anyone who is going to shroom, use my story as a lesson to ALWAYS prepare yourself, physically and mentally before you do.

To add to this story, a couple weeks later, I was in the house by myself, taking a bath with my pipe and hookah on the table next to the tub. I was totally relaxed, and it was really hot and muggy. I suddenly had the idea to go for a walk and rent a movie, which got me really excited, so I stood up quickly, and immediately my head started spinning, so I got a little worried and stepped out of the tub and started to walk out of the bathroom. Then, wouldn't you know it, I awoke on the floor again WAY more dazed than the last time I fainted, and I think I was out a bit longer (maybe a couple minutes) this time, but I can't say for sure. So I stood up (and remember, I just got out of the bath so I was completely naked) and stumbled out into the living room, only partially able to see where I was going. I was incredibly disoriented and kept running into shit, trying to find the couch. I had my computer set up on a table near the couch, and was so fucked up that I almost sat down on my monitor thinking it was the couch. Eventually, I found it, laid down, and proceeded to try and comprehend what was going on. It was about an hour before I could sit up without feeling faint, and another hour before I could stand up. Walking the twenty feet into the kitchen to get some water took about 30 seconds because I was still totally discombobulated.

So at that point, I was a bit concerned and checked out how common it was to faint twice within two months with no history of health problems. The reasons this time were pretty obvious. Weed often causes an increase in heart rate, and that combined with the light-headedness you get from smoking shisha, the high temperature in the bathroom, going from floating in water to suddenly standing up, and the excitement over my idea to get a movie are the perfect ingredients for a fainting.

Needless to say, I had kind of an awakening as to how fragile the human body is, especially the brain, and I thought a lot about how easy it is to die. Since then, every time I get a head rush, there's always the lingering paranoia that I'm going to faint and fall down and smash my head open or impale myself on something. So far none of that has happened.

But YEP, that's mah story.
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« Reply #377 on: May 27, 2008, 11:54:56 PM »
I've fainted once. I was out for maybe 1 second. I got up off the couch (I had not had any drugs at all at this time) and began to run to the kitchen. By the time I got about 5 steps (at most) which brought me in front of the doorway to the kitchen, the headrush made me loose vision, and I actually fainted. I woke up about a second or so later with my face still sore from doing a running faceplant into the ground.

Other than that, the only other times I've been in danger of fainting were the first time I smoked a popper and when I was part of a Jamaican shower. The second one I mentioned, I would have actually collapsed, if it weren't for my friend Bruce getting me out of there before I did. The popper one, I simply lost vision for a second (not all that uncommon for me when I get headrushes.)

I believe what a head rush is is your body failing to keep the enough blood flow to your brain. Usually there are mechanisms in place to keep the blood pressure in your brain up at all times, but things can mess with them, and if they're not working right, either standing, or getting up quickly can cause you to get a head rush.

I need to buy myself a pipe or bong before I try salvia again (yay for it being legal and sold all over here).

I honestly think I'm prepared for shrooms or other hallucinogens, I just need to actually get some. It sucks when practically none of your friends do drugs like you do :/
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Re: Drugs, Alcohol, etc.
« Reply #378 on: May 28, 2008, 12:10:13 AM »
Yeah you're pretty much right about the head rush thing. Put simply, it's caused by a sudden fall in blood pressure. Fun fact: The official term for a head rush is Orthostatic hypotension.

Wow, I'm tempted to send you some money so you can buy me some salvia if it's that readily available :O
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« Reply #379 on: May 28, 2008, 12:15:48 AM »
Lol, well, around here there are lots of little convenience stores that have pipes, and small bongs and stuff, and most of them that have all that, also sell salvia.

And yeah, I looked up Orthostatic Hypotension because I wanted to find out why I was getting those head rushes, lol.
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« Reply #380 on: May 28, 2008, 02:32:40 AM »
That story made me want to try shrooms a little less, and I've done some weak salvia. I guess having already seen some decent hallucinations (I couldn't even really communicate with people, beside a few words)  would prepare me, but unless I did it with some people I doubt I would.

Also I used to get head rushes all the time that would blind me. Never have I blacked out, but I almost made myself when I put my head under my show for a long time, I guess the heat and the pressure and cause blood flow irregularities.


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« Reply #381 on: May 28, 2008, 02:59:53 AM »
I've got to try salvia sometime. I also really wanna give DMT a shot. My friend was actually considering trying to synthesize it himself.

I actually really want to try it... And what the hell is DMT?

Do not trip with someone who is not going to as well. Regardless of how well you think you can handle it, it's going to be at least a little bit awkward.

I've found this too true, even with bud or some alcohol. (or both... xD)

I had a sudden strong urge to masturbate (XD) so I went in the bathroom and tried, but if you've ever tried to jerk off or have sex on shrooms, you'll know that it's nigh impossible. I don't know why, chemically, but it just doesn't happen, or is really hard.

I'm prolly not the only here that's tried it, but workin a jerk on weed is harder, but the results are.. More than satisfactory. =o Wish I could say the same for being drunk, but that just makes it harder, and desensitized. =(

I was in the house by myself, taking a bath with my pipe and hookah on the table next to the tub. I was totally relaxed, and it was really hot and muggy. I suddenly had the idea to go for a walk and rent a movie

Shit son, That's way too gangster for me. I TOTALLY need to do that.

Needless to say, I had kind of an awakening as to how fragile the human body is, especially the brain, and I thought a lot about how easy it is to die. Since then, every time I get a head rush, there's always the lingering paranoia that I'm going to faint and fall down and smash my head open or impale myself on something. So far none of that has happened.

That couldn't be any closer to my own experiences. It may sound odd, but sometimes reality becomes clearer when youre not in reality. Pretty ironic, but some of my most creative, self-discovering, and interesting thoughts have been under the infuence of something...

Awesome story, I even liked how you told it.

Salvia is readily available here in California (unsurprisingly not too far from Oregon). Nearest place that sells it to my house sells 20x, 30x, and 35x extracts, ranging from $15 to $35 dollars (IIRC). I really want to do it, but I'd much rather (as mentioned previously) do it with someone else. For security reasons, and because getting fucked up with a buddy is WAY MORE FUN than by yourself. :}

There's only a handful of things I'd be interesting trying (or doing over again): Weed, drinking, salvia, mushrooms, and lsd. I really want to try a hallucinogen.. I once smoked some regular-ass green and I actually tripped a little (or maybe because I was ridiculously high.. D: ), and I think that had enticed me even more to try them. There's just something about seeing shit that's askew in the world that I really love.

I have an acquaintance that's a frequent recreational user... He told me that if I ever wanted to try the latter three of my above list, that I should be willing to accept anything I experienced, and willing to reject any reality I knew. Apparently not being ready mentally is the hugest cause of bad trips. Mindset, mindset, mindset. But yeah, anyway, he informed me that that was probably the leading cause; people just aren't able or willing to accept things that aren't familiar to them, and try to fight the influence rather than embrace them.

Anyway, tripping balls on shit is the sort of thing that might be totally up my alley. It's just made me more than extremely curious... hehehe.

Oh, and sorry if it seemed like I was replying to every other sentence... I was trying not to do that. :\


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« Reply #382 on: May 28, 2008, 03:32:38 AM »
"I actually really want to try it... And what the hell is DMT?"

 - DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) - to sum it up, it's an intense hallucinatory drug that is derived from plants that are actually pretty common. It's also produced naturally in the human body, and is thought to have something to do with the chemicals involved in the brain when we dream. That's also what the trip is sometimes described as... very lucid dreams. It's a lot like salvia, I hear, too. It lasts slightly longer on average, but is quite intense.

"I've found this too true, even with bud or some alcohol. (or both... xD)"

 - Good point.

"I'm prolly not the only here that's tried it, but workin a jerk on weed is harder, but the results are.. More than satisfactory. =o Wish I could say the same for being drunk, but that just makes it harder, and desensitized. =("

 - Oh man... stoned orgasms are fucking GREAT. One time, an ex and I got really stoned together and had the most amazing, porn-esque sex ever haha.

"Shit son, That's way too gangster for me. I TOTALLY need to do that."

 - It's a great way to relax, you definitely should. And what would make it better is also having a hefty bowl of your favorite cereal with you in the tub.

"That couldn't be any closer to my own experiences. It may sound odd, but sometimes reality becomes clearer when youre not in reality. Pretty ironic, but some of my most creative, self-discovering, and interesting thoughts have been under the infuence of something..."

 - Hahah, yeah I know what you mean. My friend Jon isn't exactly an artist, but he draws the weirdest shit when he's high on shit.

"There's only a handful of things I'd be interesting trying (or doing over again): Weed, drinking, salvia, mushrooms, and lsd. I really want to try a hallucinogen.. I once smoked some regular-ass green and I actually tripped a little (or maybe because I was ridiculously high.. D: ), and I think that had enticed me even more to try them. There's just something about seeing shit that's askew in the world that I really love."

 - I highly recommend acid. It's relatively cheap, and the high is really pleasant, especially if you're in the right place. When I did it, I was at the beach with my friends, and it was the greatest experience of my life. If you have a friend who likes to discuss deep things, do it with him/her, because you'll have the most incredible conversations EVER.

I've heard of people sometimes having mild trips from weed. For me, I have really intense auditory hallucinations when I'm super stoned. That pretty much means I hear things that aren't there, if you didn't get that. I once sat down one night and just listened to voices saying random things. The voices are as clear as anything, and sometimes they're familiar, but mostly they're just random voices my mind put together. Sometimes what is said aren't really words, which is really interesting. Here is what I heard over the span of about three minutes (keep in mind I was very stoned and I didn't bother to make revisions because the voices were coming so quick, and the things in square brackets aren't voices, but rather descriptions of what things sounded like or what else was happening):

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« Reply #383 on: May 28, 2008, 07:13:36 AM »
DMT is considered to be the most powerful psychedelic drug, as far as the strength of the trip is concerned. Salvia is considered relatively powerful, but since it is so short lived, it negates some of the strength, where DMT lasts a bit longer, and is more powerful, providing for an extremely powerful and sometimes extremely profound change in outlook.

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« Reply #384 on: May 28, 2008, 10:55:54 AM »
"Home Improvement" becomes fucking hilarious when you're drunk.  (Or at least when I'm drunk.)  Watching Tim drop a 3-ton beam on his wife's car made me rofl all the way to the floor.  Really!


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« Reply #385 on: May 28, 2008, 12:16:55 PM »
Mah, I'd find it that funny if I was high, but not drunk. I usually never really pay attention to what's on when I'm drunk. I'm too busy making jokes with my friends. Or making fun of my friend for passing out in the middle of texting someone on their cell phone.
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« Reply #386 on: May 28, 2008, 12:28:22 PM »
Well, Jupi's never been high.  :P  She wants to change that sometime though.  haha
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« Reply #387 on: May 30, 2008, 04:54:51 AM »
Sq3r - Thank god I am not the only person who couldn't stop myself from attemptin' the batin' while on shrooms. It is indeed nigh unto impossible, and fairly hilarious when you look back on it.

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« Reply #388 on: May 30, 2008, 12:23:16 PM »
It's just such an enticing idea. I mean, if you think of how great orgasms can be when you're totally sober, imagine how they are when you've peaked on shrooms. I have been able to climax while on shrooms but it was later in the trip when I could focus better. And yes, it is amazing.

Also, on one of my better trips, I was using my friend's bathroom and taking a pee in the dark (I made sure I was getting it in the toilet, don't worry) and since it was pitch black, all I could see with my eyes open were the usual "closed eye" visuals, but they were being affected by the different sound my pee would make when I moved it to different parts of the bowl. SO basically I was seeing something like an iTunes visualization but for my pee stream. :D
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« Reply #389 on: May 30, 2008, 12:25:36 PM »
I'm definitely going to have to try that, lol. Maybe my GF and I can experiment on shrooms sometime :P
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