should i get back into ddr

[Spectere]

lol, Ridge

I still kind of think putting hands in files is dumb, but no one agrees with me >: |

I DISAGREE.

Actually, I agree to an extent.  People include hands because ZOMG HANDS, not because they actually fit the feel of the song or make for a fun chart.  Hands, when used properly, are really fun for me.

(though I don't have a lot of room to talk after being responsible for a particularly horrid chart for Aphex Twin's INKEY$)

[Ridge]

imo hands are stupid when they're over used ex. Atmos Break from MUNGO DANCE

like seriously 134 hands

[tommy]

It's a full installer.  Mungyodance has its own engine (heavily modified StepMania 3.9) and everything.  It's completely standalone.

alright that's fancy i guess

so is it all pad or what

[Ulti]

Well, I said in another thread that I appreciate hands to some extent, but I really do think that people just add them because they want to make a file harder, or just to add them. I think Zaghurim does a good job with them, they add to the file without making it excessively hard for the most part, and they're not overdone. But I do also think it's  just a logical progression within the community, people are getting better, and I can only assume that there's just a whole bunch of people that are able to do basically anything that doesn't have hands more or less effortlessly.

[tommy]

Well, I said in another thread that I appreciate hands to some extent, but I really do think that people just add them because they want to make a file harder, or just to add them. I think Zaghurim does a good job with them, they add to the file without making it excessively hard for the most part, and they're not overdone. But I do also think it's  just a logical progression within the community, people are getting better, and I can only assume that there's just a whole bunch of people that are able to do basically anything that doesn't have hands more or less effortlessly.

pad hands aren't really hands though, unless it's piu 7913 or similiar. they should be called triples or whatever

[Ulti]

On pads it's fair game, they tend to work okay, but on a keyboard file where you have 16th note jump streams with hands interspersed, something is wrong.

[Spectere]

so is it all pad or what

Yeah, basically.

I wouldn't advise playing some of the boss songs on pad -- some of them are quite difficult (some of them are fun on keyboard, though, heh).

[Bobbias]

Yeah, I don't mind the occasional triple, but when there are so many of them, like in Glove's sims, they take away from the song, because it's just plain too hard. People can still make hard songs without making them insane. I STILL have trouble with Shining Collection and is an OLD sim. It's passable, but it's hard to actually get close to a AAA. I mean, that song is just hard (but quite fun.)

[cristian989]

I remember back in the day, Udderdude used to make some kick ass pad files.  I still have a folder of his stepfiles on my computer

Oh, and also, Toph made some VERY decent pad files, I think he's quite underrated when it comes to padfiles.

[tommy]

tommy's mungyodance review:

WHAT WORKS- it looks like it has some good songs
WHAT DOESN'T- you can't change the goddamn resolution

hey you know what's great? 640x480 stretched to 1680x1050

goddammit why can't they just use stepmania like normal fucking people

[tommy]

http://76.215.86.198/~renard/mgdforum/index.php?topic=256.0

this is pretty fucking lol

but, uh, i set my monitor to fixed aspect ratio and it's actually pretty good. decent song selection, etc.

[Spectere]

http://76.215.86.198/~renard/mgdforum/index.php?topic=256.0

hay i post there

Also yeah, I don't think SM 3.9 supports aspect ratio changes, so the only way not to stretch it to widescreen is to set a fixed aspect ratio.

As for why they don't use SM, a bunch of features have been added and such, such as modmines (yeah, they were implemented in SMPlus or whatever, but they were originally in Mungyodance).

[Ridge]

try extra mode

[tommy]

hay i post there

Also yeah, I don't think SM 3.9 supports aspect ratio changes, so the only way not to stretch it to widescreen is to set a fixed aspect ratio.

As for why they don't use SM, a bunch of features have been added and such, such as modmines (yeah, they were implemented in SMPlus or whatever, but they were originally in Mungyodance).

sm has had 1680x1050 since 3.9 alpha something

unless this is the 3.0 codebase there's not really an excuse

[tommy]

Also, bear in mind that it's not all anthro art.  I just mentioned that because some people are like zomg furriez.  It's also all tame...I don't know a single person who was ever weirded out by any of it.  Let's just say, my mom's definition of "furry" came from that CSI episode and she didn't see anything strange about the artwork.