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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2008, 04:33:28 AM »
I managed to disable UAC, but I don't explicitly remember how. It wasn't hard, but it did require me to logout and log back in.

Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Turn User Access Control on or off

its vista...spectere, you had better tell me what is awesome about vista, because from what ive used of it, its a lot less user friendly than xp is.  but i get the dx10, and whatever other features it has. 

If you run into it expecting it to be just like XP you're going to think that it's less user-friendly.  After you get used to it and have used it for a while, XP will seem like a major downgrade in the UI department.

Here's a few examples off the top of my head:

1) XP has a nasty habit of clearing out the address bar in Explorer windows even while you're typing.  Nothing worse than typing in a network path and having the UI repeatedly reset it back to "My Computer" half-way through.  Vista doesn't do this.

2) Breadcrumb paths are fairly nice and make a great substitute for the up button.  You can go back to any level with a single click.

3) Explorer windows now only display the tree view.  Additionally, they have a customizable list of favorite locations on the left side.

4) There is no longer a horizontal scroll bar on the Explorer folder tree.  As you scroll up and down it automatically keeps the folders centered in the view.

5) Per-application volume controls.  Insert featuregasm here.

6) YOU CAN STILL NAVIGATE WINDOWS USING NOTHING BUT A KEYBOARD.  Kudos to Microsoft for not failing me in this department.

7) If you have Aero enabled you can get thumbnail previews of windows if you hover over them on the taskbar or do an ALT-TAB.

8) The start menu search feature is nothing short of AWESOME.  I've gotten in the habit of starting programs by tapping the Windows key, typing in part of the application name, and either hitting ENTER or selecting the right one from the list.  I have a hard time coping without this feature. :)

9) Native OS support for tilt wheels so you don't have to install your mouse manufacturer's horrible, buggy drivers (I'm looking at you, Logitech!).

And I dunno I'm tired. D:

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

Personally I'd use AMD if I were going to be gaming a ton on mine, other than that, it look pretty sexy.
I don't know how much the difference between an AMD and an intel would make on gaming, but as a general rule, I've decided to buy AMD.

Intel is destroying AMD when it comes to performance: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2008/benchmarks,16.html.  Clock-for-clock, the Core 2 series is faster.  Whether or not AMD has the price advantage is up in the air (AMD was quite a bit more expensive for a long time, not sure if they changed that since then).
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2008, 01:18:41 AM »
8) The start menu search feature is nothing short of AWESOME.  I've gotten in the habit of starting programs by tapping the Windows key, typing in part of the application name, and either hitting ENTER or selecting the right one from the list.  I have a hard time coping without this feature. :)


Hells yes!!!  It's very amazing.  I'll hit start...type calc, photo (for photoshop), vice (for GTA vice city) hehehehehe.  I was using XP on my old laptop, hit the startmenu and though..."Damn, I should be in my appilcation already..."

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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2008, 02:14:47 AM »
Hells yes!!!  It's very amazing.  I'll hit start...type calc, photo (for photoshop), vice (for GTA vice city) hehehehehe.  I was using XP on my old laptop, hit the startmenu and though..."Damn, I should be in my appilcation already..."

Man, I know the feeling.  The most recently used application view is okay, but it's definitely no replacement for a proper search.  When I first saw it I thought it was going to be slow as a dog when you start installing more applications, but even now it's still very fast.

I think that there is a third-party app for XP that implements that but I haven't tried it.
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2008, 03:50:33 AM »
Yeah, I'm loving that feature as well. And I like having the option of both a most used applications, and being able to pin programs up there to eliminate searching. This is the first time I've switched from the oldschool start menu. I couldn't stand the "new" XP one, but Vista has VASTLY improved on that.
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2008, 03:10:22 PM »
part selection beta 2

video card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130374

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

memory- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227267

cd/dvd drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152

speed hdd- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296

storage hdd- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148298

motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131182

power supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256017

case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043

OS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

total = $1580


i tried to cut cost, while keeping things relatively similar.  i noticed i save some $80.00 in the os, can anybody tell me how much of a downgrade that would be, if any compared to the os in this post and the os in the first post.

but uhh other than that, everything should be ok.  the case is big with lots of fans, because of that, i shouldn't have problems with the video card, or ram (look at them, they have awesome looking heat pipes coming out of the top).  the motherboard from my knowledge looks good, i am NOT interested in spending another $350.00 for another video card for sli, one will be just fine.  the PSU should be more than enough power for what i need, it has a single 12v rail, and its completely modular.  the CPU should kick ass, unless it's not as fast as it looks to me (i just assume its like having 4x 2.4ghz processors in one, is that correct?) and the price is awesome.  changed the storage hdd, it should be reliable, if not, im never getting a seagate again.  i still want a lightning fast velociraptor so that stays.

but uhh yeah, if all looks good, i think i will keep the parts the way they are until i have the money, which i will then modify them again.

(not to mention, the lower the price, the better, because i want a 22inch widescreen samsung monitor, and they aint cheap.  i expect the price of this thing to hopefully go down $100-$200 in 5 or so months so yeah, maby MABY!)
« Last Edit: September 15, 2008, 03:11:55 PM by vladgd »

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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2008, 04:31:09 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_editions

Doesn't seem to be too many things, really.
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2008, 03:53:18 AM »
All depends on what you do with it.

Home Premium is fine for most non-Specteres.

i still want a lightning fast velociraptor so that stays.

If you want a fast drive you'd be best off using a RAID array.  Two 7200rpm drives on a striped array (even a mere pseudo-hardware one like the nForce chipset) is going to be as fast or faster than a single 10000rpm drive, not to mention that it's going to hold a lot more.

I ended up going with a RAID 0+1 setup with four 750GB drives.  Basically, it's two 1.5TB RAID arrays set to mirror.  I could lose any one drive and the array will be fine and I don't suffer from the drastic write speed penalties that RAID 5 has.

This setup is pretty quick.  Vista and Linux both start up unbelievably fast.
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2008, 04:08:54 AM »
i did originally want to do a raid 01, but mister velociraptor is just sexy, and the price is pretty good.

after re considering raid 01 just now, i can for $10 cheaper than the setup in the lists do 4 of these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

which should be cool and reliable

how complicated it is setting up a raid array?  i never did it before.

and NO, i do not require more than this much storage.  1tb is WAY MORE THAN I EVER NEED(2x 500gb HDD's working as a single 1tb hdd, with the same thing as backup..correct?).  i have a 232 gb (250-whatever from formatting) HDD, and i have 137gb free.  i could go even lower on the storage actually, but the price is right.

*edit*  i could lower the price by $40 if i went with the 320gb model, but fuck it, 1tb sounds cooler than 640gb.

and not to mention, i would assume a 7200rpm HDD would run cooler than a 10,000rpm HDD just for the fact that its running slower.  but with 4x HDD's...maby that would cancel out the heat output from the velociraptor. 

or am i just putting too much thought into this?  i mean, if im going to blow over $1500 on a computer, it had better kick ass, and work for a good long time.
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2008, 06:25:29 PM »
im going to cut costs for this thing

i don't think i require vista 64bit.  xp 32bit should be fine.  sure it won't read all 4 gigs, but i don't need em.

i MAY pick a lower video card, but other than that, ill have to nitpick.  the processor looks good, the motherboard should be fine.  my storage/speed HDD combo should be ok.  but id LIKE to have the cost under 1300. 

i mean, i don't need to run anything awesome.  just stuff like WAR, COD 4, fallout 3 on high settings with a 1680x1050 resolution. 

main reason for the desire to cut cost, so i can run WAR better(and get the pc sooner).  it runs, just when you get to the RVR stuff, it starts chugging.

so yeah, cheaper parts, cheaper parts.

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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2008, 06:01:33 PM »
how complicated it is setting up a raid array?  i never did it before.

Generally, about as complicated as formatting the drive.

i don't think i require vista 64bit.  xp 32bit should be fine.  sure it won't read all 4 gigs, but i don't need em.

Keep in mind that games are starting to ship with 64-bit executables now.  Also, 64-bit Windows has gotten really good with Vista.  The only thing I even need to jump into a 32-bit Windows to run (running under Virtual PC) is Stars!, a Win16 game.  Just about everything else runs fine.

i MAY pick a lower video card, but other than that, ill have to nitpick.

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i mean, i don't need to run anything awesome.  just stuff like WAR, COD 4, fallout 3 on high settings with a 1680x1050 resolution.

I can run COD 4 at 1920x1200, fully maxed out, with 4x AA and anisotropic filtering with a single GeForce 9800GTX.  Just something to keep in mind.

Bethesda can't make an efficient engine to save their life, so don't count on running Fallout 3 at 1680x1050 with anything.  Oblivion hitches occasionally on every system I've run it on, regardless of specs.

As for WAR, being an MMO it's going to be designed to run on as many systems as possible.  I don't think you'll have a problem with that.
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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2008, 06:11:26 PM »
Well, oblivion is one thing, but morrowind runs damn fine, even on POS system. Despite the lack of certain things in the morrowind system, I thought that it was rather well executed.
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2008, 06:25:27 PM »
Well, oblivion is one thing, but morrowind runs damn fine, even on POS system. Despite the lack of certain things in the morrowind system, I thought that it was rather well executed.

Yeah, it runs fairly smoothly if you don't count the numerous bugs that cause the game to crash periodically...

And besides, considering Fallout 3 is based on the Oblivion engine (a fact that's actually relevant to this topic), I highly doubt it's going to run well, even on high-end systems, just like its older brother.
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2008, 12:50:34 AM »
any pc can run oblivion.

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video card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130374

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

memory- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227267

cd/dvd drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152

speed hdd- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296

storage hdd- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136178

motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131296

power supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256017

case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043

OS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

heatsink- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118223

arctic silver 5- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

$1575

storage hdd(i trust western digital over seagate), and motherboard changed(p45 chipset).  added heatsink and arctic silver 5, i hear the Q6600 can easily OC to 3ghz, and im going to do just that.

this build should be final, i doubt i will tweak anything from this.  i could go with 1066mhz ram(same brand, same style), but the stuff i picked out is fine, its cheaper, and the timings are better.

unless there's any parts that won't work with what ive picked, this should be a pretty sweet rig when built.  i should have the right connectors for everything, i have more than enough power to juice the thing, the motherboard works with what ive picked.  unless i overlooked anything, im pretty sure im butter.
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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2009, 05:18:03 AM »
HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136322

video card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102809

case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160&Tpk=haf

otherwise the previous list is the same, it's been working great thus far.

also, vista isn't too bad.  only experience ive had with it prior was on low end laptops.  on "good" machines, it works fine.  just turn off the thing that asks your permission to do anything "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO OPEN THE PROCESS YOU CLICKED ON?  SERIOUSLY ARE YOU SURE IT COULD BE A VIRUS!"
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Re: vlad is putting together a pc for the future
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2009, 12:05:32 AM »
figured id bump with images.  yeah, my sister got a new camera and gave me her old one...hence the pictures.







ignore the dust, ill have to do some cleaning soon later

but this thing looks pretty cool with the light off, but i don't know how to turn the flash off on this thing so yeah, can't supply image for that.  also because of these images i seen that walmart receipt, which was from me buying civ4 and the witcher...back in april.