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Re: The Official S.net "The Lame Replies Thread" Thread
« Reply #975 on: October 17, 2007, 02:32:14 PM »
I'm just using the simfile I made for the original version.  I mainly did this so that I could play it on the rather loud ITG2 machine near me without getting kicked out for playing a file with very very loud profanity. :P

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« Reply #976 on: October 17, 2007, 02:54:43 PM »
T.T Is that a raid array?
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« Reply #977 on: October 17, 2007, 03:08:07 PM »
My board doesn't even support RAID. :/

That's one hard drive in an enclosure.
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« Reply #978 on: October 17, 2007, 03:25:15 PM »
Damn. Nice size, I'd love to have a 750 GB drive, lol. (that's stupid that it's actually 698 GiB. 50 GB discrepancy is a lot.)

My board supports Raid, but I don't have any drives to use with raid, lol.
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Re: The Official S.net "The Lame Replies Thread" Thread
« Reply #979 on: October 17, 2007, 03:49:06 PM »
It is a 750GB drive, though.  There is no size discrepancy.  Windows (and Linux (and everything else)) still incorrectly use the binary prefixes for whatever reason, even though the rest of the industry has changed over.  I wish I knew why operating systems still insisted on using the incorrect standards.
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« Reply #980 on: October 17, 2007, 06:37:27 PM »
I thought a 200gb drive was huge when I bought it like a year ago :x

It's probably just because my computer's from 2001 and it came with 37gb. Pretty sad.

Also, we had Oktoberfest for German Club after school today, it was pretty sweet. We had these bratwurst that had cheese in them, oh man, so delicious. And my friend's band came and played, and we were all screwing around and having fun. Good times.

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« Reply #981 on: October 17, 2007, 08:04:08 PM »
Were they johnsonville? Because those are made of win and orgasm.

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« Reply #982 on: October 17, 2007, 08:47:18 PM »
It is a 750GB drive, though.  There is no size discrepancy.  Windows (and Linux (and everything else)) still incorrectly use the binary prefixes for whatever reason, even though the rest of the industry has changed over.  I wish I knew why operating systems still insisted on using the incorrect standards.

Well, I was referring to the "discrepency" between real GB and GiB. 50 GB (or GiB) between the industry value VS what your computer reports is quite a bit. I know it is still actually 50 GB, but I'd have rathered that the industry use the binary system, since computers are binary machines... I realize that GiB is technically the wrong system, but since nearly every bit of memory you'll have to deal with is measured in GiB about 90% of the time, you'd think that it would make more sense to make your memory in GiB than GB...
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« Reply #983 on: October 17, 2007, 09:23:00 PM »
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« Reply #984 on: October 17, 2007, 10:01:01 PM »
My dad's laptop fails at finding new hardware, so he's using mine for the night and I'm stuck with his.

It's nice that it at least recognized my mouse and I was able to transfer my bookmarks over, but it's not so nice that my Buckethead torrent finished this afternoon but I currently have no access to it.

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Re: The Official S.net "The Lame Replies Thread" Thread
« Reply #985 on: October 17, 2007, 10:39:29 PM »
I realize that GiB is technically the wrong system, but since nearly every bit of memory you'll have to deal with is measured in GiB about 90% of the time, you'd think that it would make more sense to make your memory in GiB than GB...

The reason sticks of memory and the like are measured using binary measurements is because they have to be measured like that by design.  Additionally, not many people actually look at how much RAM is in their computers.

When it comes to hard drives, there's absolutely no excuse for utility developers to be stuck on binary measurements.  Computers being "binary machines" has absolutely nothing to do with it because in that aspect we're dealing with personal data.  Humans do better with systems based on ten because that's what our numbering system is based on.  It's less confusing for everyone.  After all, do you seriously think that doing a size comparison based on a unit 1024^3 large is easier than doing a comparison based on a unit that is 1000^2 large?  Not only is it a glaring user interface issue ("oh, well, this program says it needs 4GB of space.  I have over 4,000,000,000 bytes, so why won't it install?!") but it goes against the entire metric system, which has been in place a hell of a lot longer than personal computers have been.

So, long story short, operating systems should either properly report sizes in binary figures (using KiB, GiB, etc) or switch to the proper metric form (i.e. KB = 1000 bytes, MB = 1000 KB, etc).  None of this "half-way" shit that they're pulling now.  All it's doing is causing grief for everyone.

It's like trying to claim that the Imperial measurement system makes more sense than the metric system.  Yeah, 12 inches to a foot, 36 inches to a yard, etc.  Using the binary system's 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, 1048576 to a megabyte, 1073741824 to a gigabyte when a much simpler, more logical, easier to grok system is in place is just lunacy.
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« Reply #986 on: October 17, 2007, 11:29:47 PM »
That is so ironic coming from an American. That made me laugh very hard spec. I really have to wonder why the US hasn't smartened up and switched to metric already, there are only what, 3 countries in the world not using the metric system?

In any case, it would be a lot better if this whole issue was corrected somehow, because it is really annoying not seeing 750 when you clearly have 750 GB of data. I guess I'm sorta like the people who oppose the metric system just because it's different. I wouldn't really care too much what they did as long as they cleared things up more tan they are now. I can make the switch to using a base 10 system just as easily as I'm used to reading hex values and working with the base 2 system. (well, easier really, since our native counting system is base 10.)

I just wish that ISO or IEEE or whoever has dominion over this issue would issue something to try to get everything on track in some system that makes more sense.
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« Reply #987 on: October 18, 2007, 12:11:51 AM »
That is so ironic coming from an American. That made me laugh very hard spec. I really have to wonder why the US hasn't smartened up and switched to metric already, there are only what, 3 countries in the world not using the metric system?

That's why. We'd have to change.

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« Reply #988 on: October 18, 2007, 12:42:58 AM »
All those european countries changed over the the Euro, even at the expense of fucking a lot of people's lives up (portugal's economy got royally fucked. An escudo now is worth like, nothing. The person I was talking to said she could live on 1 or 2 escudos a day before, and now she spends almost 5 euros a day, and euros are worth quite a bit more than an escudo was worth). If all those countries could change their currency, then obviously the US can easily change over to the metric system. It's a lot less likely to destroy their economy than switching to a different currency...

You think all the countries that use the metric system used to use it? They pretty much all had to change at one point or another.
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« Reply #989 on: October 18, 2007, 02:32:53 AM »
I can't remember if I posted this, but my girlfriend got me a PSP for our six months haha.

Did you slap a custom firmware on it yet? :3

Spec, I <3 your avatar.

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What do you think of it?  I've heard good and bad about it...mostly bad.

Oh yeah, speaking of my 360, the video thingy broke. I suppose it was overdue; I've had it for more than a year and this is the first trouble its ever given me.

Ouch. :(  That's the famous Red Ring of Death, isn't it?

Hope you can get that fixed soon.  Maybe you'll get lucky and get a replacement with the new architecture (and the lovely 65nm Xenon).

That is so ironic coming from an American. That made me laugh very hard spec. I really have to wonder why the US hasn't smartened up and switched to metric already, there are only what, 3 countries in the world not using the metric system?

It'd be a very hard changeover.  Granted, a lot of things have been in place for years to facilitate the change if need-be (for example, cars with both miles per hour and kilometers per hour on the speedometer).

The biggest hurdle the people, as with anything else.  Even with people around my age, who had been taught the metric system in school, would have a problem with it because everything would suddenly turn upside down.  As someone who's traveled a fair amount (it's a 5.5 hour drive to my parent's house and I've gone back and forth several times...not to mention the regular hour trips to visit pyroko and Jinxie when I lived in Ohio) I'm used to thinking of long distances as miles.  Not because they make more sense, per se, but because everything here is measured in miles.  When you print directions on Google Maps, MapQuest, or whatever, it reports the distance in miles.  When you travel, you look at the odometer on your car which, here, is given in miles.  When you're approaching an exit on a freeway it gives the distance to the next exit in miles.  When you're tracking where you are on the highway, there are signs every tenth of a mile.  Basically, in every single instance where you'd think of a kilometer, I'd think in a mile, simply because it's impractical to do it any other way.

Another giant hurdle would be cost.  You know all of those signs that I mentioned?  Mile markers, highway signs, signs telling you how far to go to the next rest stop, everything.  All of that would have to be completely replaced.  For an effective changeover it would all have to be done very quickly at great cost to the government (in other words, taxpayers).  There would also be great corporate expense as companies changed all of their internal documentation and the like to reflect metric measurements if they haven't done so in the past.

To elaborate on one of my previous points, you really can't compare it to a currency changeover.  Currency changes are not quite as psychologically set as distance changes are.  I could move to the UK right now and I guarantee that the move to metric would screw me up more than a change in currency.  Also, keep in mind that the United States is a hell of a lot bigger than any of the European countries.  We have a humongous web of roads and highways that would all require a great deal of work.  I don't really know enough about Canada to compare the experience with it, but perhaps this will make you see my point a bit more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

Soon after Canada changed to the metric system, a commercial airplane was loaded with an insufficient amount of fuel for its flight.  Had the pilot not been an experienced glider pilot with enough skill to get the huge Boeing to the ground safely, 69 people would have been likely been dead due to the switch.  Given that a 125 million dollar spacecraft was already hosed by unit conversion issues -- with rocket scientists at the helm of the project, no doubt -- it's not a stretch to think that this could happen again.  Many times.

Just something to think about.

I just wish that ISO or IEEE or whoever has dominion over this issue would issue something to try to get everything on track in some system that makes more sense.

As shown here, the binary prefixes were standardized back in January 1999 by the IEC.  Additionally, those prefixes are also backed by the likes of IEEE, CIPM, and NIST, and is set to become a European standard.

To end on a humorous note (taken from the "binary prefix" Wikipedia article that I linked to), Western Digital got the last word in when one of their customers sued them for being "misleading" about the storage capacity of their drives (which is probably why you see "capacity based on 750,000,000,000 bytes" or something similar on the packaging of hard drives now).  They were, as companies generally are due to legal costs, basically forced to settle.  On the footnote of the settlement, they wrote: "Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a “dozen,” because some bakers would view a “dozen” as including 13 items."

For the full document showing the details of the settlement, go here: http://www.wdc.com/settlement/docs/document20.htm.  It's actually a good read.  Western Digital clearly put their most sarcastic lawyers on the case for that one -- good for them.
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