Why do you hate guilds so much? I mean, I hate the childish stupid guilds made up of the average players (you know, 5 or 6 12 year olds, maybe 20 members that are older than say, 18, and then 1 or 2 old geezers (well, 45, 50 years old, that sort of thing)). Those guilds suck absolute monkey cock. Guilds like my cousin's, which are made up of people who practically live on WoW, love getting stoned/drunk, and are either in college or actually out of college, and who actually don't mind (and rather enthusiastically engage in) swearing, those are the guilds that are cool. In my opinion anyway. I hate logging in at say, 2 AM and finding 1 person in your guild of say, 120 members, actually awake. In my cousin's guild, you could log in at any time of the day, and probably find 2 or 3 members logged in at any given time, and they're a rather small guild anyway.