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The Flat-Earth Society
« on: December 06, 2008, 03:31:27 AM »
Good places to start: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11211.0 and http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1264

Basically a forum for people who believe in a conspiracy theory bigger and more complex than is statistically possible.

Here's a map for reference:



And some quotes from the believers themselves:

Quote from: 6strings
Flatearthersareretards, I've decided that you're a government shill, spreading lies and discontent in the ranks of the beievers, and thus anything you say is invalid.  "Friends" flying from Australia to Africa through "Antarctica", psssh, your imaginary words don't fool me.

However, on the note of Occam's Razor; nice metaphore (analogy?).  There are only specific instances in which you can apply Occam's Razor, it only  comes into practice when a sufficient theory has something added to it which does not improve its predictive power.  Otherwise I could say the following:
There are two theories as to how people live:
A) We are kept alive by a complicated system of veins, nerves, organs, etc.
B) Magic
Ergo, by Occam's razor, people are kept alive by magic
Granted this isn't a great example, but I think it kinda gets the point across.

Quote from: flyingleaf
I'm working on the next version, which will have a little more details, if people would agree to the validity of the following:

The current FET should use a modified "geocentric" universe in that the center of the universe is an invisible point above the North Pole, except that the Sun also has an epicycle of North-South drift, creating seasons and 24-hour days in the Arctic circle (unfortunately not so for the Antarctic, but since it doesn't exist, nobody's hurt).

Of course any geocentrism has problems, but let's not discuss it here.  This rendering is meant to be the defining picture of FET.  An accurate rendition of something flawed is obviously going to contain the flaws, and perhaps magnify them.

Quote from: Erasmus
Quote from: fuzzy901
These renderings have me wondering, do FE'ers believe that the map, as accepted today (shape notwithstanding, obviously, but with 7 continents, 5 oceans, etc.) is accurate? If the globe is wrong, why not the continents on it?

Because the United Nations flag shows all the continents (except the fictitious Antarctica) and oceans.  Don't ask; just thinking about the astronomical degree of stupidity required for this sort of reasoning makes me nauseous.

-Erasmus

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lol A smaller sun *laughs*
You're right, this is just ridiculous, I mean, we've all been to the sun and seen just how big it is haven't we?  How could anyone believe that the sun isn't the size scientists say it is? I mean they're scientists...with lab coats and stuff...

These are just quotes from defenders, and if you go through some threads you'll see it seems they're vastly outnumbered, so it's not quite as bad as it looks. They're still using the same dodgy argument strategy that creationism proponents use ("I'm right." "Fuck evidence." "Your argument is invalid because I say so." "I'm going to pick apart your statement because of how it was phrased." etc.). There's no use in arguing with them, but roughly 9/10 of their members (from what I've seen) disagree. I like how Phil Plait of BadAstronomy puts it:
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...[M]ost scientists find pseudoscientists to be very irritating. Sometimes it's because the pseudoscientists attack the work being done by real scientists, and sometimes it's because real scientists get tired of being asked about aliens, UFOs, Planet X and the Apollo Hoax. In fact, many real scientists think that pseudoscientists should be ignored. They reason that they don't want to give these guys publicity, and that taking them on legitimizes their theories.

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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 05:07:53 AM »
Stickied because that site embodies this section of the forums.  Seriously, this is gold.  This is exactly why this section was created. ;D

I almost want to troll that forum but I seriously can't think of anything that could possible make it look any more ridiculous.
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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2008, 08:17:27 AM »
Horse porn....er I mean...have them convinced that the 3 little pigs is about the second comming of Jesus?

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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2008, 12:38:22 PM »
Horse porn....er I mean...have them convinced that the 3 little pigs is about the second comming of Jesus?

You mean the second and third comings ;)
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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2008, 03:58:38 PM »
I'm somewhat curious as to how they can explain seasons, but I'm even more curious as to what they think is on the edge of the world.


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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2008, 04:43:55 PM »
The radius of the sun's orbit around the Earth's axis symmetry varies throughout the year, being smallest when summer is in the northern annulus and largest when it is summer in the southern annulus.

Here are some very good diagrams of seasons on the flat Earth.





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There is a vast ice wall at then end of the Earth. The ice wall is roughly 150ft high. This also explains why you can find a vast plane of ice when you travel south.

Antarctica as a continent does not exist.

Furthermore, it is is unknown what is underneath the Earth. Some believe it to be just rocks, others believe the Earth rests on the back of four elephants and a turtle.

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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2008, 05:17:47 PM »
I'm curious if they can explain why a flight from California to Japan takes roughly as long as a flight from Argentina to New Zealand without the word "conspiracy."

Also, I love how they try to counter the "Occam's Razor" argument by saying that the RE theory has holes just like the FE theory. And that they still can't come up with a legitimate reason as to why it would be hidden that the earth is flat.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2008, 05:27:46 PM by annon »

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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2008, 06:47:09 PM »
I loled. I like how the sun orbits the new earth, makes perfect sense.


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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2008, 09:39:25 PM »
I'm thinking about registering under the name Mr. Round Earth.  Then just coming up with factual stuff as well as my own made up stuff that blows them all away...but then again they may just be as stupid as they are in the quotes.

The topic will be called Round Earth, Not Flat.
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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 09:45:06 PM »
And your avatar has to be this:

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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2008, 10:02:04 PM »
find one that doesn't have a fugly watermark in the middle of it :(

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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2008, 10:02:16 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=25285.0

For anyone who wants to log onto my name it is Mr. Round Earth and the password is Equator.
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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2008, 10:34:04 PM »
I added
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Point #8:
     You say that the Earth and all celestial bodies are accelerating upwards at 1g, but it's been shown in tests that you could run yourselves that gravity isn't uniform across Earth. Also, what would be causing everything to be accelerated upwards? God?

Point #9:
     Where's your evidence?

EDIT: I was given this link for evidence: LOLOLOLOL
« Last Edit: December 06, 2008, 11:05:27 PM by annon »

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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2008, 10:45:43 PM »
I added

I'm going to love seeing all of the added points by everyone on here and the idiotic replies which sound good with all of the lingo that says stuff but doesn't mean anything at all.

And I truly like my analogies to insaneness...don't you?
« Last Edit: December 06, 2008, 10:47:21 PM by Leorina »
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Re: The Flat-Earth Society
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2008, 11:04:35 PM »
find one that doesn't have a fugly watermark in the middle of it :(

If such a thing existed I would have linked to it instead. :|
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